Date   

MNJGS Genealogy Talk for Beginning Researchers, Sun. July 12 1PM Central Time #announcements #events

casson123@...
 

Shining a Light on Jewish Genealogy by Dr. Liba Casson-Nudell. For a beginner-level researcher who wants to start an exploration of their family history and Jewish roots. It will cover the basics of how to get started using Internet resources including free websites such as JewishGen, FamilySearch, CJH.org, MyHeritage.com, local public libraries, and paid websites such as Ancestry.com. DNA resources will be introduced, but not explored in depth.

Registration required, link to Zoom Meeting will be sent following registration

https://www.mnjgs.org/events/shining-a-light-on-jewish-genealogy


Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com #dna

Susan Sorkenn
 

My father’s parents were first cousins, and one of his sisters married a first cousin. They all lived in the same shtetl, Lyachavichi, near Baronovichi, in what is now Belarus. I have been able to trace their names back to the 1700’s and have found tax records from the 1850’s.


Need help contacting Andrew Katz and Sandy Fisher #dna

Jay Lenefsky
 

Dear One and All:

 

The  two people mentioned in the subject line have come up as possible DNA matches to a few of us known 

cousins with one of the companies that test DNA. I have sent them messages through the companies messaging system,

but have not received a  reply. 

I thought maybe they would be connected to the Jewishgen public.

Since there there could be many possibilities of people with the same name I am including the following details:

Both test with ancestry.com

 

Andrew Katz joined July 2018

 

Sandy Serlin-Fisher joined October 2018

Any help in contacting these people would be greatly appreicated!

 

Thank you,

Jay Lenefsky -Israel

 

 


List of Shoah Victims from Pochep, Russia #russia #holocaust

Beth Galleto
 

A memorial to 1,846 Jews from the vicinity of Pochep, Russia who were murdered in the Holocaust was reconstructed and rededicated in August 2018. It now consists of a central monument surrounded by 32 stone plaques inscribed with 1,164 of the names of those who lie buried in that place.

 

I have obtained the list of these names, which was compiled by Olesya Petrovskaya and her students over a period of ten years. Petrovskaya is director and teacher of the Rechitsa Secondary School of the Pochep District. The names were collected from many sources including residents' recollections, reports from the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission, war letters, pages of testimony from Yad Vashem, and others.

 

I have translated all the names into English and posted them on my kehilalinks website for Pochep. You can see the memorial monument here:

 

https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/pochep/kehilalinksPochepMemorial.html

 

Please click on the two links at the bottom of the Memorial page to see the complete list of names and to see photos of each of the individual plaques.

 

May their memory be for a blessing.

Beth Galleto

 


Jews in Riga: 1946 #latvia

Lande
 

 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has added 3,493 new name records to the Holocaust Survivors and Victims Database (HSV). Indexed from the ITS Digital Archive, this List of Jews Residing in Riga collection contains Jewish survivors residing in Riga in 1946. The information consists of name, fathers’ name, year of birth, and local address. You can request and immediately receive digital copies of the original documents in your email.  Search at https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=49467

 

Peter Lande

Washington, D.C.

 


Re: Genealogical research in Argentina #latinamerica

Barbara Ellman
 


The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP)  also has the census books for the Baron de Hirsch colonies.  These hold a wealth of information, but are only viewable at the archives.
In looking at my Hirschhorn family who lived in the San Antonio colony I found:
 - the ship and date of arrival 
 - the wives were coming later, so their arrival info
- Year of Births and Deaths
- Marriages
My family was already there in 1895 and I viewed census books that went up to 1910.  Not a lot of years, but a great deal of info.
 
Barbara Ellman

--
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: Szabadalmas Munkács város levéltára #hungary #general

Israel Guttman
 

I am looking to locate the following book in Hungarian, the author is Andor Sas: Szabadalmas Munkacs varos leveltara 1376-1850

If you have any knowledge where I can find it, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.

Israel Guttman


Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com #dna

karen.silver@juno.com
 

I agree with Nicole Haymans and want to add my own experience.  My paternal grandfather married his half-niece, my paternal grandmother, in 1919 in Providence, Rhode Island.  My paternal grandfather's half-sister was my paternal grandmother's mother.  They married in Rhode Island because their marriage was legal there since it was allowed under Jewish law, but illegal in New York City where they resided.  Peculiarly, under Jewish law a man is allowed to marry his niece but is not allowed to marry his aunt.


Re: Brody, Ukraine - seeking a book about Brody #galicia

janenns@...
 

Hi, I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to find records from Brody for my maternal grandfather, Nathan Dalitz and my paternal grandfather, Israel (Julius) Sperling. Have you had success in your Brody research and, if so, would you give me some suggestions?
Thank you so much.
Jan Enns


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Mikkitobi@...
 

Interesting theory Yale. Do let us know when you have actual proof.


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

Barbara Zimmer
 

When Hilda LINDO MADURO  (her married name)  travels in 1945, her documents say that she was born in Panama.   Several other  manifests show her as born in Panama or in "R. P"  which  means Republic of Panama.  

 

New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945



Name
Hilda Lindo Maduro
Arrival Date
31 Mar 1945
Birth Date
1889
Birth Place
Panama R.P
Age
56
Gender
Female
Nationality
Panamanian   


Barbara Zimmer 
Virginia 


Re: Translation please from Dutch #germany #translation

Reuven Stern
 

Dear Nick,
Thank you very much.
You are right, it is not what I wished to find about my ancestors, but I can not argue with facts.
I am amazed by your ability to find this document.

Best regards,
                             Reuven


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 03:41 PM, <nick@...> wrote:
Hello Reuven and Ed
I found in the document the father of Rika OS, [who was born on 18 Nov 1827], as Levi Simon OS who was married to Rachel Luppeman. Rika was born in Wonsdorf [now Wunsdorf, Hanover region].
Levi Simon OS is recorded as a rogue or scoundrel from Winschoten, province of Groningen, Netherlands, in the Allgemeiner Polizei-Anzeiger, Vol 29, No 42, pages 221-2, [Coburg 24 Nov 1849] as case # 10445, with a very detailed description of his features, and his misdeeds. His wife Rachel Luppeman and a number of their children are mentioned in old German lettertype. He is described as being 50 years old, which fits in with the record  http://5.2.76.95/details/ps56/ps56_458.html of Juan Goudsmit, where Rachel Luppeman is shown as Rachel Lappeman.
The document lists  4 witnesses who confirm the birth date of Rika OS. The declaration was issued by the burgomaster of Winschoten on 3 Feb 1853.
I know this is not the desired translation, but it may help.
Regards, Nick Lambrechtsen
Wellington NZ

 
--
Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

YaleZuss@...
 

The grounds for returning an immigrant to Europe were first specified in the Immigration Act of 1882, and then refined in subsequent legislation.  All of the grounds listed impose a cost of some sort on the existing population, particularly the voting public.  Being listed incorrectly imposes no cost on the pre-existing population, and thus never became one of the grounds for being sent back.  Between 1903 and 1917, stow-aways appeared before Special Boards of Inquiry, and if it was determined that they didn't fall into one of the excludable categories, could be admitted. Section 3 of the Immigration Act of 1917 includes procedures for admitting stow-aways, people who weren't on the manifest at all. 
 
After studying these issues, I concluded that some immigrants may have feared that what Mashiach wrote was true, that they would be sent back if they told the inspector that their name wasn't what appeared on the manifest.  That wasn't the case, but this fear accounts for perceiving that they had to use the name appearing in the manifest, and this is the basis for the name-change-at -Ellis-Island narratives.


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Sherri Bobish
 


I agree with Mashiach's post.  My ggf's surname was WALTZMAN.  When my ggm (who was illiterate) traveled to NY to join him in 1904, the surname was spelled WALDSMANN  on the manifest.

This was not because of any "name change" but due to the fact that the name was written the way it sounded to a clerk in Europe, and my ggm could not read the name herself, but relied on verbal communication.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa)


 


Re: Looking for a descendant of Rabbi Binyomin Beinush Atlas initially from Lithuania #lithuania

rv Kaplan
 

Thanks for responding - - looking to find a present-day descendant who knows about their ancestor.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 17:31, Yehuda Horovitz via groups.jewishgen.org <yudaron=yahoo.com@...> wrote:
The son in law of Rabbi Binyomin Beinish Atlas of Glasgow
was Dayyan Yitzchak Golditch  of Manchester passed away 1986 age 80
he had 3 children of them was David who passed away in 2000


 


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Davida Handler
 

Isn't it time to debunk this myth?  There is no doubt that this be
never happened.  Search ANY internet site.  Time to move to other topics!  Davida Noyek Handler


Finding records for ANETTA GROSSMAN BRAVERMAN who returned to Old Country from U.S. #romania

donna@...
 

GG-Grandmother Anetta Grossman, born approx 1862, married Samuel Braverman/Brawerman (he is from Tulcea) approx 1875 in Romania (most likely). Have not found birth or marriage records. She came to the U.S. twice (in 1901 and 1906). She came to Philadelphia and met with her son Wolf. Passenger records show her coming from Galatz/Galati. In 1913, she purchased passage back to Bremen. After that, I lose her trail. I have not found anything for her anywhere. Any ideas of where to look?
Donna


Re: Looking for a descendant of Rabbi Binyomin Beinush Atlas initially from Lithuania #lithuania

Yehuda Horovitz
 

The son in law of Rabbi Binyomin Beinish Atlas of Glasgow
was Dayyan Yitzchak Golditch  of Manchester passed away 1986 age 80
he had 3 children of them was David who passed away in 2000


 


Re: SELIG Brick Wall #general

Fred Half
 

Thanks to David Lewin for catching my fat fingering of Moyse’s birth year. It should be 1760 not 1860. 


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

eksilverman11@...
 

Mashiach: Is it possible for you to forward to us relevant references? I am not disputing your plausible statements, only seeking sources, especially about the use of postal directories in the steamship ticket offices overseas from the US. (Additionally, it would be helpful if you had information on how the manifest literally moved from shipping office to ship to arrival port, that is, in whose charge was the manifest on board the ship, etc.) As a general note, I find it useful and often crucial to be able to differentiate between statements about historical processes based on (i) verifiable published sources (e.g., scholarship) as opposed to (ii) family/personal anecdotes and (iii) individual impressions based on general familiarity.  Thank you.