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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Bruce Drake
 

One of the bitterest divisions among the Jews of Eastern Europe — which persists among Jews to this day — was the clash of beliefs between the Hassidim and Zionists. The very religious were concerned that secular nationalism would supplant Jewish faith and they believed that it was forbidden for the Jews to re-constitute Jewish rule in the Land of Israel before the arrival of the Messiah. There are echoes of those beliefs today in the ongoing debate in Israel over whether ultra-Orthodox Jews should be exempt from military service so they could dedicate their lives to study of Torah.
This conflict is brought to life in “The Youth and the Aging,” a section of a chapter titled “Way of Life” from the Yizkor book of Turobin, Poland. The 1917 Balfour Declaration, in which Britain announced support for a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, gave added energy to the Zionist movement. As young pro-Zionists began to organize and establish a Tarbut library, older Jews became incensed. “The aging, who were usually very devout, were not neutral and almost decreed that nobody rent a room to the criminals who were forcing the End of Days and unifying in Zionist groups,” wrote Yaakov Avituv.
Some blamed hardships that befell the town on the Zionist activity. When large swamps formed in early spring after the thaw, a stench rose from them in the days before Passover that kept away the peasants who shopped there and idled the shopkeepers.
“Gentlemen!” declared R' Yerachmiel Bronshpigel at a meeting, “we see clearly that all the troubles have come upon us because of the criminals and the library. It disseminates those books among our sons and daughters, who day and night read what is forbidden and improper. Why are we still silent? We need to begin a holy war.”
The members of the Tarbut persevered and even staged the play “Joseph In Egypt” for Passover and had the tacit support of many common Jews. But pioneers hoping to make Aliyah had trouble finding work or affording the cost of doing so. Avituv laments, “It is possible that many of those who perished in the Holocaust would [have made] aliya had the rich men of the time contributed support.”


Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD


BLUMENTHAL - Minority Census #poland #general

David Selig
 

Hi Jewishgenners

I live in Paris.

Can anyone help with information re
Salomon Blumenthal  ??

Born17.07.1861 inWormditt / Braunsberg (Ostpr.) / Ostpreußen
"Race":JJJJ
Died   31.01.1940

RESIDENCE
17.05.1939
Münchener Str. 37
Schöneberg / Schöneberg
Berlin/

THIS COMES from the Minority Census, and
I do not know where the death information comes from.


Thanks for any help
Best wishes to all

David SELIG
Paris, France


Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com #dna

Lee Hover
 

Re my entry above:  Arlene's parents, who were first cousins, lived in New York City.  They also had to go out of state to marry.


Re: USA passport research #usa

jbonline1111@...
 

I don't know where to search for passport information, but I have a copy of my great grandfather's passport issued in the mid-1890s in Russia.  For that reason, I think you are correct that he would have needed a passport to enter Russia. On the other hand, 1917 is the year of the Russian revolution, so it's possible that passports were not check as carefully or that there were ways to enter without one. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Brody, Ukraine - seeking a book about Brody #galicia

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
To be sure you are aware of all possible books, Brody's Yiskor Bukh has been translated in English and printed by JewishGen YB project in June 2018.
Full title is :" An Eternal Light : Brody, in Memoriam", ISBN 978-1-939561-619; 712 pages.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam 
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund) of France
Searching : FLAM around Olesko & Brody, AGID around Lemberg
ZYSMAN & KRONENBERG around Lodz


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

haakonc@...
 

Hello John,
This is indeed very interesting. My great-grandparents, Simon Lazarus Lansburgh and his wife Rebecca lived in Panama City. After he died, Rebecca came to San Francisco with her two young sons. According to family lore, the came with their best friends the Delvalles. The Delvalles are not listed in the passenger list with them ("Passengers Arrived," SF Examiner 31 Dec 1881 pg 3, col 5; Newspapers.com). However, Rebecca apparently came on her own about a year earlier, and stayed in the grand old Arlington Hotel in Santa Barbara, to recuperate from tuberculosis. An article about her imminent return also mentions that "Mr. Mrs. and Miss Del Valle of Panama" were heading directly to Santa Barbara (untitled, Morning Press (Santa Barbara CA), 29 Dec 1881, pg 3, col 3; California Digital Newspaper Collection: cdnc.com).


Re: Origin of the name LAJOUS #france

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
According to various French genealogical web sites, "Lajous" is a rare name, only 560 persons born since 1890, mainly in South West counties near Pyrennées mountains and Spanich border.
From "La jus", name given in a mountain village to the house located below the village; as a nickname, applies to the inhabitant of this house.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & History of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring ( Bund) of France


Re: Immigration to US of Avram/Abraham BERCOVICI/BERKOWITZ from #romania

Mike Grossman
 

Thanks for your response, but my question was more about them traveling under the name of GROSSMAN, rather than BERKOWITZ. Under what circumstances would that happen. 
And to make it more confusing, they appear (hard to read) to be going to Philadelphia to "husb Abr Grossman", and not to Peppi's husband Abraham Berkowitz. Any thoughts?


Re: Genealogical research in Argentina #latinamerica

semion@...
 

Here is another helpful site: https://www.hebrewsurnames.com/search
Semion Sucholutsky


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

To Mashiach:  Thank you for correctly summarizing the Ellis Island name
situation in your maingroups note below.   As you noted, if someone did
not want to use their name on the manifest or change their name, they
had the option of putting the name they wanted to be their legal name on
their citizenship papers.  This was a standard procedure and did not
cost anything extra. I am mentoring many refugees who have come into
Philadelphia in the last ten years, and they continue to have name
problems for a variety of reasons, including the fact that many
countries have different naming patterns and alphabets. In many of the
Mideastern and African countries husbands and wives do not have the same
last name and have a number of names. These individuals can make name
changes and choices when they get their citizenship papers.  So things
haven't changed that much!

I grew up in NYC hearing an Ellis Island joke.  I just googled it and
found the story as follows:

https://theconversation.com/jewish-americans-changed-their-names-but-not-at-ellis-island-96152
Awell-worn joke in American Jewish culture
<https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Treasury_of_American_Jewish_Folklore.html?id=pWoaAQAAIAAJ>goes
like this. A Jewish immigrant landed at Ellis Island in New York. The
procedures were confusing, and he was overwhelmed by the commotion. When
one of the officials asked him “What is your name?” he replied, “Shayn
fergessen,” which in Yiddish means “I’ve already forgotten.” The
official then recorded his name as Sean Ferguson.

The web site listed above has a full discussion of the name change
stories at Ellis Island, so I hope that this can put the whole matter to
rest on Maingroups.

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia

From: Mashiach L. Bjorklund
<mailto:logictheorist@...?subject=Re:%20%22His%20name%20was%20changed%20at%20Ellis%20Island%22>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 08:56:58 EDT

Sorry if someone might have alluded to this answer earlier. This is a
long thread and towards the end I just skimmed the posts. As many have
said, names did not change at Castle Garden, Ellis Island, or any of the
many other ports of entry. The name on the manifest is the name they
used - period. So where did the name changes occur? Answer: When they
bought their ticket. Tickets were purchased at ticket offices across the
continent and in the UK. Steamship lines had ticket offices located in
most major cities. At the point they bought their ticket their name had
to be translated/transliterated into the language of the country of
their destination. For the USA that was English. For people from the UK,
Italy, Germany, etc. that translation was minimal if any at all and was
often very similar to their original name. For people from Russia,
Poland, AKA the Pale that meant Cyrillic or Hebrew/Yiddish to English. A
much more difficult translation. To compound the problem many people
were illiterate, so their name was given verbally to the ticket agent.
So how did the ticket agent choose the name they got? Many had postal
directories from New York City, as well as a few other major US cities.
They thumbed through the directories until they found a name they
thought fit the bill. This is often why people like brothers, or other
close family members, ended up in the US with different surnames. They
bought their tickets at different times or different offices or from
different ticket agents. The bottom line is they got their name and then
that name on their ticket had to match the name on the ships manifest in
order for them to board for passage. The manifest was then turned over
to the port of entry (unaltered) on arrival and their name had to match
the manifest in order for them to legally enter the country. Any
discrepancy and back they went, at the steamship companies expense. Now
*after they entered the country and became residents they were free to
change their name again if they so desired. *Many did to Americanize it.
For instance Pinkowitz became Pincourt, Kvint became Quint, etc.. *Many
changed their name upon becoming US citizens. Find their citizenship
documents and you will often find two names. The one they immigrated
with and the one they now choose to be called by which from the point of
citizenship became their legal name.* I hope this clears up some of the
confusion.
--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: USA passport research #usa

Molly Staub
 

Hi All, 

My paternal grandfather Einoch Harast arrived in New York (heading to Philadelphia) in 1907. HIAS located him as entering Great Britain in 1917, name now became Emil Harost,  because his father in Russia was dying. I know he wouldn't have needed a passport to come to the U.S., but wouldn't he have needed one to return to Russia? I've looked but can't seem to find one. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Molly Arost Staub

Researching
Harast/Arost,  Shtofman, Berenson, Groffman/Graffman


Re: ancestry look up #general

Lin Herz
 

Dear David,
I found the information you requested and sent it to you. Just wanted others to know so they needn't duplicate. Best of luck with your genealogical research. Stay safe and well.

Sincerely,
Lin Herz
Palm Bay, Florida


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

John Anderson
 

With thanks to all the responders.....all indications are that U.S. Columbia refers to Panama.

John Anderson


Re: Question on DNA and Cohenim #dna

Adam Cherson
 

@Jeffrey Herrmann,

I had to giggle a little when I read your note because I have also undergone that journey ;-)
One thing is for certain: what we think we know today won't be the same as what we think we know tomorrow!
Most likely there are numerous persons on your twig, they just haven't taken the plunge into DNA testing. You are a pioneer into your sub-tree, which surely contains fabulous undiscovered mysteries.
Hopefully those mysteries will be made clear during our lifetimes.

@Jill Whitehead, Please see my next comment. If the Hammer report is correct, then there are some G persons who come from a Cohanic tradition.

@Stephen Weinstein: You raise some interesting points. For purposes of clarity I usually refer to Cohanim  and y-chromosome Aharons as being two distinct categories. Your explanation makes clear that not all y-chromosome Aharons are Cohanim, strictly speaking under Halakhic law. But one needs to be careful here because strictly speaking under Halakhic law, there can be no non-y-chromosome Aharons who are Cohanim, and yet there are apparently many R-M269 Cohanim (according to the Hammer report). I believe there has to be a Rabbinical interpretation of the definition of Cohanim to include also persons who by tradition have become Cohanim, but do not express Aharon's y-chromosome. The purpose of all of this is not to exclude some Cohanim who are not descended from y-chromosome Aharon from the priesthood but to explain and accept how the necessities of how random human reproduction sometimes require cultural adjustment to our ways of thinking.

What I find fascinating about today's discussion landscape is that it is becoming evident that certain parts of the Old Testament are more than postdictional metaphor; certain parts seem to be revealing actual geneaological and social facts which can be merged with DNA, linguistic, and archaeological evidence to build a fuller picture of human history and Jewish history.

Kudos to you and to everyone working in this field!

Have a Splendid Day,
Adam


Re: Genealogical Research in Argentina. corrections and additons to my previous post #latinamerica #general

semion@...
 

Hi,
Thanks for your detailed post. 
Following website provides some people search services in Argentina (for a fee). What do you think about this site: Is it worth trying? is it not a scam?
https://www.dateas.com/es/consulta_cuit_cuil?

Semion Sucholutsky


Re: Name Variations (was: "His name was changed at Ellis Island") #names

steverosenbach@...
 

Here's my name change story:

We arrived in the US in NYC on January 20, 1951, under the Displaced Persons Act. "We" means my mother and my two maternal grandparents, my Mom's younger brother Joe, and me. My biological father had died of food poisoning in September 1949, in Frankfurt, a few months before I was born. I was born in Amberg, in the American Zone of Occupation, and my family had been in Germany since 1946, having lived at DP camps at Hof-Saale, Degendorf, Regensberg, and finally in Amberg. 

We arrived aboard the troop ship General C.H. Muir. I caught measles on board, so Mom and I were quarantined for 10 days at Ellis Island, while the rest of the family disembarked normally at the West Side piers in NYC. HIAS housed and fed us for a few weeks in NYC, and then sent us by train to Baltimore, where our sponsor, Mom's Uncle Leo and his family, were waiting for us. 

Anyway, on to the name change: Even as a young child, I heard the name Przedborksi, and somehow knew that it used to be my grandparents' surname, which was now Preston. So I asked my Mom what happened, and she said "the man at Ellis Island changed it." So that was enough to satisfy a 7-year-old, and I didn't think about it for years.

Then, in my late 30's, at some family gathering, I related the story to a friend or relative, and Mom, overhearing me, said, "That's not what happened! I changed it."

So the real story is that we arrived in the US as Przedborski, and Mom, wanting to be a American, knew that this was not a "good American name." She picked up the Baltimore telephone book and looked for names starting with P-R-E (forget the "z", she said!) and once her eyes fixed on "Preston," she knew she had found her new name. So she went to court and had our name legally changed to Preston within the first few months of residing in America. 

In the late 50's, my Uncle Joe (my de facto big brother, just 5 years older than me,) and I used to watch "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" on our enormous Philco tv with the diminutive screen, and we thought we were somehow related to the heroic title character. 




ancestry look up #general

David Fisher
 

Would someone be so kind as to do the following look up for me-

Reports of Deaths of American Citizens Abroad, 1835-1974      
DEATH, BURIAL, CEMETERY & OBITUARIES
View Image
Record information.
Name
Israel M Sklarman
Death
location mm/1908

Thank you in anticipation
Dave Fisher


JGS of Greater Boston Zoom Program -The Lost Family with journalist Libby Copeland Tuesday July 14 at 6:30PM EST #announcements #events

Jessie Klein
 

Have you had your DNA tested? Were your results surprising? If so, you’re not alone. Journalist Libby Copeland will share some of the stories she discovered while researching her book, The Lost Family: How DNA Testing is Upending Who We Are.

Tuesday July 14 6:30PM EST. via Zoom

The program is free but you must register at www.jgsgb.org

Questions: Contact president@...

 
Jessie Klein
Co-President
JGSGB
 


Re: #belarus #hungary #holocaust #belarus #hungary #holocaust

paveanyu@...
 

Dear Ms. Shamian Grunfeld                                                                                  10th July 2020

My apology, if my memory is not mistaken, we may have exchanged e-mails in the past: re our Grunfeld Ancestors.

I did attempt to contact Eva Grunfeld--in Budapest--unfortunately I was told that sadly she passed away.

Sadly, time and time again I experience 'I am attempting to navigate in a blind alley.

If I am not mistaken--Noach ? Grunfeld may have been a son / or grandson of the Litcheke Rabbi. 

There is a 'sefer' / book about the Litcheke Dynasty--unfortunately  to my knowledge it is not available in English. -- 

I wonder, did you try to contact the Editors of the Paper?  Hirek from the elhurcoltakrol?  News/Information about the Deported.?

If I receive any info, I will update you..

Best wishes

Veronika Pachtinger


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

EdrieAnne Broughton
 


Hi John,
I found that Hilda LINDO's married name is Hilda MADURO.
A 1927 passenger manifest shows Hilda MADURO & other family arriving in San Francisco.
That manifest gives her birthplace and citizenship as Panama.  The area that became Panama was part of Colombia until 1903.

Here is one scenario why 1900 census would give her birthplace as "US Columbia." 
 
The Panama Canal Zone was an unincorporated territory of the United States from 1903 to 1979.  That was officially.  Prior to 1903, as in 1881 the French began construction of the canal.  They pulled out due to sickness and engineering problems.  At that point it was controlled by Colombia but the US was pulling lots of strings.  By 1903 the US took over construction, but ownership was pretty fluid in the interim.   I found another ship's manifest from the summer of 1926, with Delia with husband Samuel and daughter Olga.  The purpose of the trip to San Francisco from Panama was pleasure, however Samuel,a merchant ,died in San Francisco in October and was buried in one of the cemeteries in Colma.  Delia went back to Panama, dying there in 1944.  Her ashes were returned to San Francisco.
 
EdrieAnne Broughton
Vacaville, California
 

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