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Two death Dates On Lithuanian Data Base
#lithuania
#general
William Levine
Hi, the two entries below from the Lithuanian data base below, appear to be for the same person, as ever data item is the same except for the death date which iis 20 years apart. Efroim Levin, appears to be my great-great-grandfather so it would be great if I could discern which date is legitimate. Any insight thanks alot
Bill Levine
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Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island"
#names
Bob Bloomberg
If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help me out please. I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests. I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names. And I have all the time I need. I have access to experts in languages. I don't have hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision. Just like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed. Please explain
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Re: Translation please from Dutch
#germany
#translation
hennyhouweling@...
Rachel LAPPEMAN (Amsterdam April 6, 1803-Maastricht August 3, 1888) had 16 brothers and sisters. See dutchjewry.org/genealogy/abas/1496.shtml.
See also www.wiewaswie.nl for Dutch ancestors. Best regards, Henny Houweling-Zwart, Nieuwkoop, the Netherlands.
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Moderator Needed for Hungarian Division Mtg at Virtual Conference
#hungary
Vivian Kahn
I need to find one or two Moderators who will be responsible for running the technical part of the Hungarian Division meeting at the virtual IAJGS Conference. IAJGS will provide a professional technician available in the background, but Research Directors have to supply one or two moderators who will deal with screensharing, taking questions, cueing speakers, etc. The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. You need to register to participate in the meeting but there is no charge if you are not registering for other conference sessions. Please let me know ASAP if you can assist.
-- Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California JewishGen Hungarian Research Director
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Re: Looking for Marczak ancestors from Chotin
#bessarabia
hmvangils@...
Hello Yefim,
thanks for your reply. I found on Czernowitz.geneasearch.net the reference to the Cz marriage record. I never found the original. According to this site David Hersch Marczak was "aus Bojan, Hauseigenthümer Nr. 514, Sohn des Nachman von Chotin in Beßarabien u. der Gitel". That is all I know. Do you know whether Nachman is a surname or a given name? And if it's a surname, why has his son an other name (=Marczak)? I'll take a look at the Family Finder! Thanks for helping me. Maaike
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Kohn/Kahn Family refugees in USA
#hungary
b_nye008@...
I am trying to find my great uncle and his family. They escaped from Hungary and arrived in NY in 1956. His name was Edward Kohn/Kahn and he came with his wife, son and daughter, whose names I don't know. He was the youngest brother of my grandfather Herman and his brother Joseph. My brothers said they lived with us for a short while in Brooklyn, NY, but moved out of NY around a year later. He was probably born around 1900.
Barbara Kahn Nye
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Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian
#translation
ryabinkym@...
In Russian:
#12 Меер Желязо
Состоялось в Посаде Янов 6-го мая 1886-го года, в 10 чаов утра явились евреи Меер Файбишман 54-х лет и Лейзер Рубинштейн 34-х лет, проживающие в Посаде Янов и заявили, что 4-го мая текущего года в 8 часов утра умер еврей (не ясно) Меер Желязо, сына Герша-Мошки, 64 лет от роду, проживающего в Посаде Янов и оставил после себя овдевевшую жену (не ясно). По сему удостоверяю о смерти Меера Желязо. Акт сей Явившемся прочитан и ими подписан. Свидетели Меер Файбишман Лейзер Рубинштейн Подпись
Translate into English:
#12 Meer Zhelyazo
Held in Posad Yanov on May 6, 1886, at 10 o’clock in the morning, came Jews Meer Faibishman, 54 years old, and Leizer Rubinstein, 34 years old, living in Posad Yanov, arrived and said that on May 4 of this year at 8 o’clock in the morning, a Jew (not clear) Meer Zhelyazo, the son of Gersh-Moshka, 64 years old, who lives in Posad Yanov, died and left behind his stiff wife (not clear). Accordingly, I certify the death of Meyer Zhelyazo. This Appeared Act has been read and signed by them. Witnesses Meer Faibishman Leiser Rubinstein Signature
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Re: Name Variations
#names
Jules Levin
My mother born in 1909 in Chicago, 3rd child, parents still did not have
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a name ready (?waiting for a relative to die? ;-) ) so she was listed as Baby Goldstein on the birth certificate. Some time in the 30's she had to legally change it to Sylvia, the only name she knew. Jules Levin
On 7/10/2020 10:03 AM, jbonline1111@... wrote: Many families changed either the spelling or the entire name to
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Re: Nowe Miasto to Ulanow to Vienna
#austria-czech
polishancestry@...
Google maps shows a village named Ulanów with a Nowe Miasto about 65 km away. It appears that Nowe Miasto was absorbed into Rzeszów but it still shows up on the map. The other Nowe Miasto villages in Poland are much further away from Ulanów, so this is the most likely choice. This area was part of the Austrian partition of Poland which may have facilitated the family moving to Vienna. FamilySearch.org catalog has one film of Jewish regulations for each Ulanów and Nowe Miasto, but no Jewish metrical records. You might want to check the Polish archives to see if they have any holdings for these villages.
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SIG/RD/BOF/RG Application Reminder - 5 days left!
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
Due Date – July 15th!
Dear SIG, RD, BOF, RG leader, As you are probably aware by now, this year’s IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy will be a “Virtual Conference”. The good news is that the conference Chairs have worked out a mechanism for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups to meet in virtual meeting rooms during the conference period. Many of you already submitted applications but some of you notified us that you could not hold a session because you would not be able to travel to San Diego. Since physical attendance is no longer an issue, we are doing a re-set and providing all groups the opportunity to apply for a meeting session. Please read the rest of this letter carefully and submit the accompanying application form by July 15th. The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. Additional good news for your group is that we would like to offer the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings at no charge to attendees, so you could invite existing members and potential members who may not be interested in attending the full conference, but would like to meet with your group. Attendees for any part of the conference, including the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, must register for the conference. Registration for the full conference, which will include a variety of live and recorded sessions is $325. (By the way, the $250 early bird rate expires on Sunday, July 5th in case you have not registered and want to.) By submitting your new request, you are agreeing to the following conditions:
Applications MUST be returned by July 15th, 2020 at the to SIGandBOF@...g (Earlier replies are very much appreciated.) If we do not get a response by July 15th, your group will not be scheduled. Feel free to contact me at the same email address with any questions.
Nolan Altman
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Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com
#dna
sharon yampell
When my great aunt and her first cousin wanted to marry, they had to come into New Jersey because it was illegal for first cousins to marry in Philadelphia in the1930’s.
Sharon F. Yampell Voorhees, NJ USA GenealogicalGenie@...
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Re: Name Variations (was: "His name was changed at Ellis Island")
#names
jbonline1111@...
Many families changed either the spelling or the entire name to Americanize it. My father and his brothers switched from Slonimsky to Sloan sometime around 1940 or so. However, one uncle entered the Army as Slonimsky anyway, while Dad used Sloan. The other brother spelled the name Sloane. I assume they forgot to tell him the spelling.
BTW, there is no need to make a legal name change. Anyone can use whatever they wish as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes. Neither Dad nor his brothers ever had a legal name change. For that reason, when he retired, my aunt had to testify for Social Security that she knew my father under both names. And it gets more complicated as his first name on his birth certificate is also not the name he used. He didn't know why but in the 1920 census, his first name was already changed. We surmised that he may have had the Spanish flu and that his mother changed his name to fool the angel of death, a not-uncommon thing. -- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#yizkorbooks
#poland
Bruce Drake
One of the bitterest divisions among the Jews of Eastern Europe — which persists among Jews to this day — was the clash of beliefs between the Hassidim and Zionists. The very religious were concerned that secular nationalism would supplant Jewish faith and they believed that it was forbidden for the Jews to re-constitute Jewish rule in the Land of Israel before the arrival of the Messiah. There are echoes of those beliefs today in the ongoing debate in Israel over whether ultra-Orthodox Jews should be exempt from military service so they could dedicate their lives to study of Torah. This conflict is brought to life in “The Youth and the Aging,” a section of a chapter titled “Way of Life” from the Yizkor book of Turobin, Poland. The 1917 Balfour Declaration, in which Britain announced support for a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, gave added energy to the Zionist movement. As young pro-Zionists began to organize and establish a Tarbut library, older Jews became incensed. “The aging, who were usually very devout, were not neutral and almost decreed that nobody rent a room to the criminals who were forcing the End of Days and unifying in Zionist groups,” wrote Yaakov Avituv. Some blamed hardships that befell the town on the Zionist activity. When large swamps formed in early spring after the thaw, a stench rose from them in the days before Passover that kept away the peasants who shopped there and idled the shopkeepers. “Gentlemen!” declared R' Yerachmiel Bronshpigel at a meeting, “we see clearly that all the troubles have come upon us because of the criminals and the library. It disseminates those books among our sons and daughters, who day and night read what is forbidden and improper. Why are we still silent? We need to begin a holy war.” The members of the Tarbut persevered and even staged the play “Joseph In Egypt” for Passover and had the tacit support of many common Jews. But pioneers hoping to make Aliyah had trouble finding work or affording the cost of doing so. Avituv laments, “It is possible that many of those who perished in the Holocaust would [have made] aliya had the rich men of the time contributed support.” Bruce Drake Silver Spring MD
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David Selig
Hi Jewishgenners
I live in Paris. Can anyone help with information re Salomon Blumenthal ?? Born17.07.1861 inWormditt / Braunsberg (Ostpr.) / Ostpreußen "Race":JJJJ Died 31.01.1940 RESIDENCE 17.05.1939 Münchener Str. 37 Schöneberg / Schöneberg Berlin/ THIS COMES from the Minority Census, and I do not know where the death information comes from. Thanks for any help Best wishes to all David SELIG Paris, France
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Re: parents as "cousins" on Ancestry.com
#dna
Lee Hover
Re my entry above: Arlene's parents, who were first cousins, lived in New York City. They also had to go out of state to marry.
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Re: USA passport research
#usa
jbonline1111@...
I don't know where to search for passport information, but I have a copy of my great grandfather's passport issued in the mid-1890s in Russia. For that reason, I think you are correct that he would have needed a passport to enter Russia. On the other hand, 1917 is the year of the Russian revolution, so it's possible that passports were not check as carefully or that there were ways to enter without one.
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC
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Re: Brody, Ukraine - seeking a book about Brody
#galicia
Bernard Flam
Hi from Paris,
To be sure you are aware of all possible books, Brody's Yiskor Bukh has been translated in English and printed by JewishGen YB project in June 2018. Full title is :" An Eternal Light : Brody, in Memoriam", ISBN 978-1-939561-619; 712 pages. Khavershaft Bernard Flam Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund) of France Searching : FLAM around Olesko & Brody, AGID around Lemberg ZYSMAN & KRONENBERG around Lodz
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Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas
#sephardic
haakonc@...
Hello John,
This is indeed very interesting. My great-grandparents, Simon Lazarus Lansburgh and his wife Rebecca lived in Panama City. After he died, Rebecca came to San Francisco with her two young sons. According to family lore, the came with their best friends the Delvalles. The Delvalles are not listed in the passenger list with them ("Passengers Arrived," SF Examiner 31 Dec 1881 pg 3, col 5; Newspapers.com). However, Rebecca apparently came on her own about a year earlier, and stayed in the grand old Arlington Hotel in Santa Barbara, to recuperate from tuberculosis. An article about her imminent return also mentions that "Mr. Mrs. and Miss Del Valle of Panama" were heading directly to Santa Barbara (untitled, Morning Press (Santa Barbara CA), 29 Dec 1881, pg 3, col 3; California Digital Newspaper Collection: cdnc.com).
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Re: Origin of the name LAJOUS
#france
Bernard Flam
Hi from Paris,
According to various French genealogical web sites, "Lajous" is a rare name, only 560 persons born since 1890, mainly in South West counties near Pyrennées mountains and Spanich border. From "La jus", name given in a mountain village to the house located below the village; as a nickname, applies to the inhabitant of this house. Khavershaft Bernard Flam Archives & History of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring ( Bund) of France
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