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Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

YaleZuss@...
 

The US "arranged" the independence of Panama from Columbia so it could build the Panama Canal.


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Jules Levin
 

On 7/10/2020 1:21 PM, Bob Bloomberg wrote:
If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help
me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests. 
I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all
the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have
hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just
like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must
use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's
spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.
The clerk doesn't have to "read" the name, he only has to /match/ the
name with the name already written on the tag.  He writes down nothing. 
The immigrant gets his checkmark and then goes off and uses any name he
darn well pleases.  When his kid learns 10 yrs later that their "name"
was changed, the simplest answer in a busy household that in those days
did not feel it necessary to indulge children, was "changed at Ellis
Island".  As many have already noted, the anomalies would have occurred
at the point of departure in the Old Country.  That is where a clerk had
to enter the name on a manifest.

Jules Levin (name changed by grandfather from Levitan)






  Please explain


Re: Lincoln Brigade and Spanish Civil War #usa

Judith Berlowitz
 


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Dahn Cukier
 

I don't think these are names they used, but the name the
purser heard and wrote in the closest way possible considering
the limitations of the language used at the port of departure,
and of course English.

Dani



When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas
(Gunsmoke)


On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 12:13:43 AM GMT+3, Bob Bloomberg <rpbrpb2012@...> wrote:


If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests.  I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.  Please explain


Looking for Abraham Aranovich family Romania to Argentina #romania

Ricardo Alejandro rubinstein
 

I m looking for more info about my grandfather s family. He was borned in Izmail, by that moment Romania, then Russian Empire and actually Ukraine. It was Bessarabia by 1893. His name Abraham Aranovich . His father Samuel was probably borned in 1861, perhaps in Izmail, perhaps in Kiliya where the had family, perhaps Chelm. All of them near towns. Samuel is said to have changed his surname, originally Gerberoff to avoid military service. One theory says he took his mother´s surname, Aranovih, the other he was adopted after Mongolian war, where he was injured by a childless family named Aranovich. We don´t really know the truth version.
Samuel married Ester Yankelevich, probably borned in 1864 and might have been married in 1882. Their first son Miguel is from 1883, then came Jaime 1885, Mauricio 1891, Abraham, my grandfather in 1893, Salomon 1895, Malka 1902 and Leon 1904.
In 1905 they came to Argentina shipping in the Cap Arcona of Hamburg Sud, starting from Hamburg to Buenos Aires.
In Argentina they settled in Colonia Clara, Pcia de Entre Rios in fields provided by the Jewish Colonization Asociation.
I travelled to Izmail 15 years ago to visit his native town, met the rabbi Fishl Chychelnytskyi and other members of the community, went to cemetery, Danube River, etc. It was only 1 day, emotionally full. But I didn´t get too much information about anccestors by that time. Emails contacts got lost with the time.
Now we joined with other members of the family and want to know more about. 
Is it possible to find Samuel and Ester Ketuba. 
Who were their parents.
Abraham told he had a sister died before coming to America. Her name, age?
Is there family still remaining there
How did they travel from Izmail to Hamburg, navigating the Danube River, or by the Mediterranean sea
Are there files of the passages in the Cap Arcona ship
Whatever we start knowing with your help, welcome
Regards
Ricardo
 

Libre de virus. www.avast.com


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

dmjacobs@...
 

I grew up in Panama City and went to school in what was then the Canal Zone.  I had my Jewish education with these same families and was confirmed with a Lindo and a Maduro, and the president of the temple at that time was a DelValle.  There are many families with those names in Panama many of whome have 400 year old family trees!  

Panama is the only country besides Israel that has had two Jewish presidents in the twentieth century – Max Delvalle Maduro and Eric Arturo Delvalle Cohen-Henriques. Interesting families to be connected to!!

The use of US Columbia as place of birth tells me that the family and maybe the census taker were a bit confused about the details of the area.  In 1900, the area we know as the Republic of Panama and the part that was the Canal Zone were both part of the country of Columbia.  Teddy Roosevelt set in motion a series of negotiations and military activities which culminated in the creation of the independent country of Panama and the purchase of land from Panama to construct the Panama Canal.  The canal was built from 1903-1914.   From 1903 to 1979 the area known as the Panama Canal Zone was an unincorporated territory of the US until it was turned over to the Republic of Panama.  Residency in the Canal Zone was restricted to individuals and their families who were employed by the civilian government of the Canal Zone, and members of the armed forces who were stationed at any of the bases.  Anyone born there derived their citizenship from their parents, the vast majority of whom were US citizens. It was a little more complicated at certain times, but there is a clear distinction in citizenship between those born in the Zone and those born in Panama.   Someone born in Panama would not be a US citizen unless their parents (or one parent) were US citizens.  It is likely that many of the Jewish families living in Panama in the 20th century had a variety of citizenships in their family trees.  Those who were US citizens  would most likely have been naturalized in the US. 

Diane M. Jacobs
Winter Park, Florida 


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Carol Isaak
 

Because nothing was written down.  The official compared the name on the manifest and the name tag on the immigrant.  Check mark.

On 7/10/2020 1:21 PM, Bob Bloomberg wrote: 
If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests.  I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.  Please explain


Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic

haakonc@...
 

It seems my last post didn't post for some reason.

It looks like these 3, still identified only as "Mr. Mrs. and Miss Del Valle," came on the Colima, leaving Panama about 6 Feb 1882, which matches the year you mention. ("Visitors and Sojourners in Santa Barbara", Morning Press (Santa Barbara CA), 6 Feb 1882 pg 2, col 1; California Digital Newspaper Collection: cdnc.com).

This article quotes the Panama Star and Herald, (with somewhat different titles over the years) which may have more information. Last I looked, this was not online, but is on Newsbank/Readex - World Newspaper Archive  in their Latin American Collection, available through some libraries.

Haakon L. Chevalier


Re: Origin of the name LAJOUS #france

Dr.Josef ASH
 

from Ludovicus. Luis, Luigy, and many other forms
In Hungarian they pronounse it as Laiosh
Look in Google Laiosh etimology


Re: Looking to hire private researcher in Przemyśl (or nearby) #poland #general

Zbigniew Probulski
 

Halo,do you can explain more about yours expectations,probably i 'll be able to help yoy...All the best Zbigniew Probulski,Gorlice,Poland


Two death Dates On Lithuanian Data Base #lithuania #general

William Levine
 

Hi, the two entries below from the Lithuanian data base below, appear to be for the same person, as ever data item is the same except for the death date which iis 20 years apart.  Efroim Levin, appears to be my great-great-grandfather so it would be great if I could discern which date is legitimate.  Any insight thanks alot
Bill Levine
 
 
LEVIN, Efroim
 
Itzko 
 
- - 
 
- -
 
 
Family from Vilna 
 
30/6/1895 
 
64 
 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
1895 
 
M415 
 
2205055 


LVIA/728/3/1476 
 
 
 
 
LEVIN, Efroim
 
Itzko 
 
- - 
 
 
 
 
 
 
26/9/1915 
 
 
87 
 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
Vilnius 
 
1915 
 
M912 
 
2205089 

69 
LVIA/728/4/260 
 
 
 


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Bob Bloomberg
 

If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests.  I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.  Please explain


Re: Translation please from Dutch #germany #translation

hennyhouweling@...
 

Rachel LAPPEMAN (Amsterdam April 6, 1803-Maastricht August 3, 1888) had 16 brothers and sisters. See dutchjewry.org/genealogy/abas/1496.shtml.

See also www.wiewaswie.nl for Dutch ancestors.

Best regards,

Henny Houweling-Zwart, Nieuwkoop, the Netherlands.


Moderator Needed for Hungarian Division Mtg at Virtual Conference #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

I need to find one or two Moderators who will be responsible for running the technical part of the Hungarian Division meeting at the virtual IAJGS Conference. IAJGS will provide a professional technician available in the background, but Research Directors have to supply one or two moderators who will deal with screensharing, taking questions, cueing speakers, etc.  The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. You need to register to participate in the meeting but there is no charge if you are not registering for other conference sessions. Please let me know ASAP if you can assist.
--
Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director


Re: Looking for Marczak ancestors from Chotin #bessarabia

hmvangils@...
 

Hello Yefim,
thanks for your reply. 
I found on Czernowitz.geneasearch.net the reference to the Cz marriage record. I never found the original. According to this site David Hersch Marczak was "aus Bojan, Hauseigenthümer Nr. 514, Sohn des Nachman von Chotin in Beßarabien u. der Gitel". That is all I know. 
Do you know whether Nachman is a surname or a given name? And if it's a surname, why has his son an other name (=Marczak)?

I'll take a look at the Family Finder!
Thanks for helping me.

Maaike




Kohn/Kahn Family refugees in USA #hungary

b_nye008@...
 

I am trying to find my great uncle and his family.  They escaped from Hungary and arrived in NY in 1956.  His name was Edward Kohn/Kahn and he came with his wife, son and daughter, whose names I don't know.  He was the youngest brother of my grandfather Herman and his brother Joseph.  My brothers said they lived with us for a short while in Brooklyn, NY, but moved out of NY around a year later.  He was probably born around 1900.
Barbara Kahn Nye


Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

#12

Меер Желязо

 

Состоялось в Посаде Янов 6-го мая 1886-го года, в 10 чаов утра явились евреи Меер Файбишман 54-х лет и Лейзер Рубинштейн 34-х лет, проживающие в Посаде Янов и заявили, что 4-го мая текущего года в 8 часов утра умер еврей (не ясно) Меер Желязо, сына Герша-Мошки, 64 лет от роду, проживающего в Посаде Янов и оставил после себя овдевевшую жену (не ясно).  По сему удостоверяю о смерти Меера Желязо.  Акт сей Явившемся прочитан и ими подписан.

Свидетели    Меер Файбишман

                      Лейзер Рубинштейн

Подпись  

 

 

Translate into English:

 

#12

Meer Zhelyazo

 

Held in Posad Yanov on May 6, 1886, at 10 o’clock in the morning, came Jews Meer Faibishman, 54 years old, and Leizer Rubinstein, 34 years old, living in Posad Yanov, arrived and said that on May 4 of this year at 8 o’clock in the morning, a Jew (not clear) Meer Zhelyazo, the son of Gersh-Moshka, 64 years old, who lives in Posad Yanov, died and left behind his stiff wife (not clear). Accordingly, I certify the death of Meyer Zhelyazo. This Appeared Act has been read and signed by them.

Witnesses Meer Faibishman

                 Leiser Rubinstein

Signature


Re: Name Variations #names

Jules Levin
 

My mother born in 1909 in Chicago, 3rd child, parents still did not have
a name ready (?waiting for a relative to die? ;-) ) so she was listed as
Baby Goldstein on the birth certificate.  Some time in the 30's she had
to legally change it to Sylvia, the only name she knew.

Jules Levin


On 7/10/2020 10:03 AM, jbonline1111@... wrote:
Many families changed either the spelling or the entire name to
Americanize it.  My father and his brothers switched from Slonimsky to
Sloan sometime around 1940 or so.  However, one uncle entered the Army
as Slonimsky anyway, while Dad used Sloan.  The other brother spelled
the name Sloane.  I assume they forgot to tell him the spelling.

BTW, there is no need to make a legal name change. Anyone can use
whatever they wish as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes.
Neither Dad nor his brothers ever had a legal name change. For that
reason, when he retired, my aunt had to testify for Social Security
that she knew my father under both names. And it gets more complicated
as his first name on his birth certificate is also not the name he
used.  He didn't know why but in the 1920 census, his first name was
already changed.  We surmised that he may have had the Spanish flu and
that his mother changed his name to fool the angel of death, a
not-uncommon thing.
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Nowe Miasto to Ulanow to Vienna #austria-czech

polishancestry@...
 

Google maps shows a village named Ulanów with a Nowe Miasto about 65 km away. It appears that Nowe Miasto was absorbed into Rzeszów but it still shows up on the map. The other Nowe Miasto villages in Poland are much further away from Ulanów, so this is the most likely choice. This area was part of the Austrian partition of Poland which may have facilitated the family moving to Vienna. FamilySearch.org catalog has one film of Jewish regulations for each Ulanów and Nowe Miasto, but no Jewish metrical records. You might want to check the Polish archives to see if they have any holdings for these villages.


SIG/RD/BOF/RG Application Reminder - 5 days left! #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Nolan Altman
 

Due Date – July 15th!

 

Dear SIG, RD, BOF, RG leader,

As you are probably aware by now, this year’s IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy will be a “Virtual Conference”.  The good news is that the conference Chairs have worked out a mechanism for SIG/RD/BOF/RG groups to meet in virtual meeting rooms during the conference period.  Many of you already submitted applications but some of you notified us that you could not hold a session because you would not be able to travel to San Diego.  Since physical attendance is no longer an issue, we are doing a re-set and providing all groups the opportunity to apply for a meeting session.  Please read the rest of this letter carefully and submit the accompanying application form by July 15th.

The Virtual Conference will take place between Monday, August 10th and Thursday, August 13th between 10:00 AM and 7:30 PM, Eastern Daylight Time. In addition to SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, there will be live and pre-recorded sessions. Additional good news for your group is that we would like to offer the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings at no charge to attendees, so you could invite existing members and potential members who may not be interested in attending the full conference, but would like to meet with your group.

Attendees for any part of the conference, including the SIG/RD/BOF/RG meetings, must register for the conference.  Registration for the full conference, which will include a variety of live and recorded sessions is $325. (By the way, the $250 early bird rate expires on Sunday, July 5th in case you have not registered and want to.)

By submitting your new request, you are agreeing to the following conditions:

  1. Your meeting cuts off abruptly at one hour, so watching the clock is necessary.
  2. Your meeting will be designed as a simple networking session, not a webinar. However, PowerPoint, screensharing and chat functions are available like in a webinar. You may discuss projects that your group has accomplished or is pursuing, but you agree not to invite a special speaker or present a formal webinar that more properly belongs within the conference to paying attendees.
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  4. You will respond to this request ASAP and before July 15th, so the conference organizers have time to schedule the sessions and reach out to your appointed moderators for any necessary training.

Applications MUST be returned by July 15th, 2020 at the to SIGandBOF@...g  (Earlier replies are very much appreciated.)  If we do not get a response by July 15th, your group will not be scheduled.

Feel free to contact me at the same email address with any questions. 

 

Nolan Altman