Re: Two death Dates On Lithuanian Data Base #lithuania #general

Elise Cundiff

In one branch of my family, two names (Itzik and Yehuda) alternated through several generation - so I have 3 of each identical name just in that direct line, plus others from uncles and nephews.    It could be that one of yours is a father or uncle, the other is a son or nephew or cousin 

Slonim Yiskor Book #yizkorbooks

Alan Tapper

Does anyone know where I might purchase the SLONIM yiskor book in English?

Alan Tapper. Sabaalan@...

MENDELOWITZ family in Slonim #belarus

Alan Tapper

My MENDELOWITZ family has lived in and around Slonim for over 200 years.  Am looking for historical pictures of what life was like.  Can you help me?
Sabaalan@.... Alan Tapper

Re: Looking to hire private researcher in Przemyśl (or nearby) #poland #general


I have used Krzysztof Malczewski (krystek@...) mob +48 601 330393 many times with great satisfaction.

Best Regards,

Frank Swartz

Re: #belarus #hungary #holocaust #belarus #hungary #holocaust


I think you are actually referring to Orsha where, according to Avraham Shifrin, there were six labour camps until at least 1967.

Re: Nowe Miasto to Ulanow to Vienna #austria-czech


Thank you for this information. I agree that this seems to be the most likely Ulanow. I will try to investigate further.
Best regards,
Maggie Jacobs

Re: Looking for "State of Rapena" or "Liabin" in Russian Poland #poland


The original place names cannot be definitely determined from these faulty transcriptions of probably verbal reports
I can imagine that the second one may refer to Lublin, a large city, and the first, for example to Rava-Ruska. The two places are not too far apart.

Re: Translation request - Polish to English #translation #poland


Etta Laia (Rud(a)), 18
Dawid Mordka K., 20, lives with parents at house 1101
child born 13 (25) Aug 1865

[It may be very reasonable to post such requests also on ViewMate]

Re: Two death Dates On Lithuanian Data Base #lithuania #general


I do not see why they have to be the same person but it's hard to make final conclusion based on a brief summary of another person.
Examination of the images of the actual documents would give more information.
Do you know any personal details of your relative?

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Joel Weintraub

Bob, you are getting hung up on the manifest and any variations of immigrant names on it.  That to me is not what the Ellis Island Name Change Belief is really about. I look at it as: the immigrant comes to Ellis Island with one family name, and because of intentional or unintentional decisions by the authorities at the Immigration Station, including an effort to Americanize immigrant  names or a level of miscommunication or insensitivity by the Inspectors, leaves Ellis Island with a very different (legal) surname which may have no correlation with the original name, and immediately uses that name in the United States.  So we get stories that Leib Nochomovsky is told by inspectors at Ellis Island that Jews in the U.S. are either Levine or Cohen, and he comes out Louis Levine.  Or Walachinsky at Ellis Island is told he is an American now, and his name is halved by the inspector to Wallace.  These sorts of stories imply or state that the U.S. authorities are writing the name down.  Down on what?  So they mispronounce the immigrants name.... does that translate to some official name change document the immigrant gets?   With my New York accent, I must have changed a lot of my students (and others)  names, right?   But let’s take an extreme made-up  hypothetical case and ask who has in the eyes of the law changed the name.   Say one of the Immigration inspectors is a practical joker and changes one immigrant’s name a day.  Nothing is written down.  No paperwork is given the immigrant that his name is changed.  The immigrant  goes into the U.S. and immediately lives for a number of years with the new name.  Most states have laws that state if you use a surname for a period of  time, it’s your name unless you were committing fraud (try to do that today to get a driver’s license!).  So who changed legally the name of this hapless immigrant.... the joker at Ellis Island or the immigrant?  It was the action of the immigrant that legally changed his name, not the inspector who had no legal powers to do so.  The immigrant’s  impressions of what happened at Ellis Island wouldn’t count in a court of law, would it?   It often boils down to how broad a definition you have about what it means to change a name, and just semantics.  I and I think most genealogists (but not all) have a narrow definition of the name change legend, which started decades after the heyday of Ellis Island. 
Joel Weintraub

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Re: USA passport research #usa

Sherri Bobish

Hi Barbara,

United States Passport Applications, 1795-1925


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: USA passport research #usa

Sherri Bobish

Hi Molly,

This NARA page has detailed info on U.S. passport history and regulations.

From the above site:
  • Passports were recommended, but not required, by President Woodrow Wilson's Executive Order 2285 of December 15, 1915, which stated that all persons leaving the U.S. should have passports.
  • Passports were required from May 22, 1918 (40 Stat. 559), until the formal termination of World War I in 1921 by treaties.
  • Passports have been required since the passage of the act of June 21, 1941 (55 Stat. 252) and subsequent legislation.

Interestingly, there were brief periods in time when someone who was not yet a U.S. citizen, but had declared their intent, could obtain a U.S. passport.

Hope this info helps,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

SCHREIBER and BLEYER descendants in Israel #israel #hungary #slovakia


I am looking for descendants in Israel of either of two married couples:
Karl SCHREIBER (d. 1969) and Ilona ("Shifra") nee ROSENTHAL (d. 1986)
Address in 1960: Bicaron Dam - Hamakabim 37/13, Tel-Aviv, Israel
Ilona born in Slovakia
Pavel BLEYER (Bleier) and Margit ("Maca", "Mara") nee ROSENTHAL (1902 - c. 1995), widow of Josef STEINBERG
Address in 1993: 28 Raziel Str., Ramat Chen, Israel
Margit born in Slovakia

Ilona and Margit were both first cousins of my father and I would love to make contact with any of their descendants to exchange family stories.  Thank you for any pointers or ideas.

Martin Tompa
Seattle, Washington, USA

Re: Name Variations (was: "His name was changed at Ellis Island") #names

Sherri Bobish

Hi Jeremy,

I do not know why Davis would have his original surname that he hadn't used in 30 years show up on that manifest, but I can tell you that my husband's ggf who arrived in NYC in the early 1880's and had used the surname SOLON for 60 years, had the original surname SOKOLSKY used on his NYC death certificate.  On his tombstone both surnames were inscribed.

Why would a surname that he hadn't used in 60 years be used at that point in time?  It is a mystery.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)

Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic


The US "arranged" the independence of Panama from Columbia so it could build the Panama Canal.

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Jules Levin

On 7/10/2020 1:21 PM, Bob Bloomberg wrote:
If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help
me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests. 
I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all
the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have
hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just
like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must
use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's
spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.
The clerk doesn't have to "read" the name, he only has to /match/ the
name with the name already written on the tag.  He writes down nothing. 
The immigrant gets his checkmark and then goes off and uses any name he
darn well pleases.  When his kid learns 10 yrs later that their "name"
was changed, the simplest answer in a busy household that in those days
did not feel it necessary to indulge children, was "changed at Ellis
Island".  As many have already noted, the anomalies would have occurred
at the point of departure in the Old Country.  That is where a clerk had
to enter the name on a manifest.

Jules Levin (name changed by grandfather from Levitan)

  Please explain

Re: Lincoln Brigade and Spanish Civil War #usa

Judith Berlowitz

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Dahn Cukier

I don't think these are names they used, but the name the
purser heard and wrote in the closest way possible considering
the limitations of the language used at the port of departure,
and of course English.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Saturday, July 11, 2020, 12:13:43 AM GMT+3, Bob Bloomberg <rpbrpb2012@...> wrote:

If the name on the manifest is the name they used--ALWAYS--then help me out please.  I've looked at literally hundreds of ship manifests.  I can decipher some, but nowhere near all, the names.  And I have all the time I need.  I have access to experts in languages.  I don't have hundreds of people waiting in line for me to make my decision.  Just like the immigration officials, I don't ask the immigrant, so I must use my best judgment as to what the name is, and how it's spelled.Butthe names were NeVER changed.  Please explain

Looking for Abraham Aranovich family Romania to Argentina #romania

Ricardo Alejandro rubinstein

I m looking for more info about my grandfather s family. He was borned in Izmail, by that moment Romania, then Russian Empire and actually Ukraine. It was Bessarabia by 1893. His name Abraham Aranovich . His father Samuel was probably borned in 1861, perhaps in Izmail, perhaps in Kiliya where the had family, perhaps Chelm. All of them near towns. Samuel is said to have changed his surname, originally Gerberoff to avoid military service. One theory says he took his mother´s surname, Aranovih, the other he was adopted after Mongolian war, where he was injured by a childless family named Aranovich. We don´t really know the truth version.
Samuel married Ester Yankelevich, probably borned in 1864 and might have been married in 1882. Their first son Miguel is from 1883, then came Jaime 1885, Mauricio 1891, Abraham, my grandfather in 1893, Salomon 1895, Malka 1902 and Leon 1904.
In 1905 they came to Argentina shipping in the Cap Arcona of Hamburg Sud, starting from Hamburg to Buenos Aires.
In Argentina they settled in Colonia Clara, Pcia de Entre Rios in fields provided by the Jewish Colonization Asociation.
I travelled to Izmail 15 years ago to visit his native town, met the rabbi Fishl Chychelnytskyi and other members of the community, went to cemetery, Danube River, etc. It was only 1 day, emotionally full. But I didn´t get too much information about anccestors by that time. Emails contacts got lost with the time.
Now we joined with other members of the family and want to know more about. 
Is it possible to find Samuel and Ester Ketuba. 
Who were their parents.
Abraham told he had a sister died before coming to America. Her name, age?
Is there family still remaining there
How did they travel from Izmail to Hamburg, navigating the Danube River, or by the Mediterranean sea
Are there files of the passages in the Cap Arcona ship
Whatever we start knowing with your help, welcome

Libre de virus.

Re: Settlements in Curaçao and St. Thomas #sephardic


I grew up in Panama City and went to school in what was then the Canal Zone.  I had my Jewish education with these same families and was confirmed with a Lindo and a Maduro, and the president of the temple at that time was a DelValle.  There are many families with those names in Panama many of whome have 400 year old family trees!  

Panama is the only country besides Israel that has had two Jewish presidents in the twentieth century – Max Delvalle Maduro and Eric Arturo Delvalle Cohen-Henriques. Interesting families to be connected to!!

The use of US Columbia as place of birth tells me that the family and maybe the census taker were a bit confused about the details of the area.  In 1900, the area we know as the Republic of Panama and the part that was the Canal Zone were both part of the country of Columbia.  Teddy Roosevelt set in motion a series of negotiations and military activities which culminated in the creation of the independent country of Panama and the purchase of land from Panama to construct the Panama Canal.  The canal was built from 1903-1914.   From 1903 to 1979 the area known as the Panama Canal Zone was an unincorporated territory of the US until it was turned over to the Republic of Panama.  Residency in the Canal Zone was restricted to individuals and their families who were employed by the civilian government of the Canal Zone, and members of the armed forces who were stationed at any of the bases.  Anyone born there derived their citizenship from their parents, the vast majority of whom were US citizens. It was a little more complicated at certain times, but there is a clear distinction in citizenship between those born in the Zone and those born in Panama.   Someone born in Panama would not be a US citizen unless their parents (or one parent) were US citizens.  It is likely that many of the Jewish families living in Panama in the 20th century had a variety of citizenships in their family trees.  Those who were US citizens  would most likely have been naturalized in the US. 

Diane M. Jacobs
Winter Park, Florida 

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