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Ber Peretzman from ZAGARE #general

Carol Joffe <cajoffe@...>
 

My father and his family were >from Zagare, Lithuania. His parents
were Ber Peretzman (Perecman) and Chana Peretzman. Their children
were Bassia, Yisrael, Shmuel, Dvora and Victor My father (Shmuel)
and his brother, left for South Africa around 1932. They never saw
their family again. Their two sisters, Bassia and Dvora went through
the camps and survived. They were told that their parents and Victor
were massacred with the other Jews in Zagare in October 1941.
However, I recently read "Last Walk in Naryshkin Park" and am
currently reading "The girl >from Human street". Both books written
by people whose family came >from Zagare. In both books they quote
testimony given by Ber Peretzman in the Feldafing DP camp in 1949.
Unless there were two people in Zagare with the exact same name, it
seems like my grandfather, Ber Peretzman survived the war and did
not die in the massacre of 1941. I am trying to find out what
happened to him after the war. If anyone out there knew him or the
family or has any information that could help me, It would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Carol Joffe


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ber Peretzman from ZAGARE #general

Carol Joffe <cajoffe@...>
 

My father and his family were >from Zagare, Lithuania. His parents
were Ber Peretzman (Perecman) and Chana Peretzman. Their children
were Bassia, Yisrael, Shmuel, Dvora and Victor My father (Shmuel)
and his brother, left for South Africa around 1932. They never saw
their family again. Their two sisters, Bassia and Dvora went through
the camps and survived. They were told that their parents and Victor
were massacred with the other Jews in Zagare in October 1941.
However, I recently read "Last Walk in Naryshkin Park" and am
currently reading "The girl >from Human street". Both books written
by people whose family came >from Zagare. In both books they quote
testimony given by Ber Peretzman in the Feldafing DP camp in 1949.
Unless there were two people in Zagare with the exact same name, it
seems like my grandfather, Ber Peretzman survived the war and did
not die in the massacre of 1941. I am trying to find out what
happened to him after the war. If anyone out there knew him or the
family or has any information that could help me, It would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Carol Joffe


Re: LIPSCHUTZ - LIPSCHITZ - LIPSZYC etc. #rabbinic

David Shapiro
 

There are several editions of Sefer Hamachria at hebrewbooks. The
Jerusalem <http://hebrewbooks.org/20169> and New York
<http://hebrewbooks.org/14436> editions have the tree at the end of the
introduction (Hakdama).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem

Simon Srebrny wrote:

...

There is a copy of Sefer ha-makhri'a at YIVO in NYC. I live in
Berlin and don't have access. The work is not at Hebrewbooks.org.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: LIPSCHUTZ - LIPSCHITZ - LIPSZYC etc. #rabbinic

David Shapiro
 

There are several editions of Sefer Hamachria at hebrewbooks. The
Jerusalem <http://hebrewbooks.org/20169> and New York
<http://hebrewbooks.org/14436> editions have the tree at the end of the
introduction (Hakdama).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem

Simon Srebrny wrote:

...

There is a copy of Sefer ha-makhri'a at YIVO in NYC. I live in
Berlin and don't have access. The work is not at Hebrewbooks.org.


Jewish Soldiers & Napoleonic Wars #belarus

David Slater
 

Family lore has a KRAUZE [KRAUSS / KRAUSE] ancestor as a soldier >from the
Austrian Empire [don't know town or province] fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars (probably abt 1812) ending up in Bialystok where the family remained
until coming to the U.S. in 1904. I have Bialystok records for the family
taking me back to only the mid 19th century, and am trying to link further
back to see if can "find" this soldier.

Any suggestions or information about Jews fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars would be appreciated. Family lore has it that he was a soldier in
Napoleon's army, but am wondering if, instead, he was a conscript in the
Austrian army fighting against Napoleon. I know there was fighting around
Bialystok in 1812 during Napoleon's Russian campaign and surmise that's
when, and where, he went >from soldier to Bialystoker.

Thanks!

David Slater
Atlanta, Georgia

Researching:

SCHLACHTER, DROBIS, SKODOWITZ, BARON - Kavarskas
SIMONSOHN [SIMSON in US], WEINSTEIN, WINBLER, SCHWARTZ - Riga
WASHILKOVSKY, KRAUZE, FIXEL, COHEN, KUPER - Bialystok
DEUTSCH, MOSHKOVSKY, MONTE, BUKOVITZKI, KOZNITZ - Slonim
FUKSON (Fox in US) - Bobruisk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Jewish Soldiers & Napoleonic Wars #belarus

David Slater
 

Family lore has a KRAUZE [KRAUSS / KRAUSE] ancestor as a soldier >from the
Austrian Empire [don't know town or province] fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars (probably abt 1812) ending up in Bialystok where the family remained
until coming to the U.S. in 1904. I have Bialystok records for the family
taking me back to only the mid 19th century, and am trying to link further
back to see if can "find" this soldier.

Any suggestions or information about Jews fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars would be appreciated. Family lore has it that he was a soldier in
Napoleon's army, but am wondering if, instead, he was a conscript in the
Austrian army fighting against Napoleon. I know there was fighting around
Bialystok in 1812 during Napoleon's Russian campaign and surmise that's
when, and where, he went >from soldier to Bialystoker.

Thanks!

David Slater
Atlanta, Georgia

Researching:

SCHLACHTER, DROBIS, SKODOWITZ, BARON - Kavarskas
SIMONSOHN [SIMSON in US], WEINSTEIN, WINBLER, SCHWARTZ - Riga
WASHILKOVSKY, KRAUZE, FIXEL, COHEN, KUPER - Bialystok
DEUTSCH, MOSHKOVSKY, MONTE, BUKOVITZKI, KOZNITZ - Slonim
FUKSON (Fox in US) - Bobruisk


Re: Vitebsk births 1860-1900 #belarus

Dmitry Shirochin <dmitry_shirochin@...>
 

Regular Vitebsk Jewish metrical records doesn't exist now - the
files were losed at the war time. There are only few files (in
NIAB, Minsk): 1837-1840, 1861-1862, 1872. Only regular source
for Vitebsk Jews metrical information is the complex of the
Family Lists on 1874 year (NIAB, fond 2496, inv. 1).
Dmitry Shirochin,
Moscow - Vilnius


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Vitebsk births 1860-1900 #belarus

Dmitry Shirochin <dmitry_shirochin@...>
 

Regular Vitebsk Jewish metrical records doesn't exist now - the
files were losed at the war time. There are only few files (in
NIAB, Minsk): 1837-1840, 1861-1862, 1872. Only regular source
for Vitebsk Jews metrical information is the complex of the
Family Lists on 1874 year (NIAB, fond 2496, inv. 1).
Dmitry Shirochin,
Moscow - Vilnius


great-grandparent's name #ukraine

Molly Staub
 

Maybe a Ukraine genner can solve this puzzle:

We were always told that my grandfather, Samuel Berenson, of Odessa, was
the son of Yishea Berenson (translated as Joshua on his London marriage
certificate). Now I've been told by another genner that her grandmother
Esther Berenson was sister to Yishea. She visited the cemetery and found
that Esther Berenson Silber was the daughter of Red Yechiel Berenson.

Are Yishea and Yechiel different names? Why might the son be given the
name of his father, unless the father died before the child was born?

Many thanks, Molly Arost Staub, Boca Raton, FL

Researching BERENSON, GRAFFMAN, AROST, STOFFMAN

Molly Arost Staub
E-mail staubmolly@yahoo.com


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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine great-grandparent's name #ukraine

Molly Staub
 

Maybe a Ukraine genner can solve this puzzle:

We were always told that my grandfather, Samuel Berenson, of Odessa, was
the son of Yishea Berenson (translated as Joshua on his London marriage
certificate). Now I've been told by another genner that her grandmother
Esther Berenson was sister to Yishea. She visited the cemetery and found
that Esther Berenson Silber was the daughter of Red Yechiel Berenson.

Are Yishea and Yechiel different names? Why might the son be given the
name of his father, unless the father died before the child was born?

Many thanks, Molly Arost Staub, Boca Raton, FL

Researching BERENSON, GRAFFMAN, AROST, STOFFMAN

Molly Arost Staub
E-mail staubmolly@yahoo.com


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Katsmazovskij in cyrillic #ukraine

Rachelle Litt
 

Maybe someone can help with a frustrating aspect of my family search.
I am looking for any family records >from the old country but cannot
come up with any close matches at all. I have lots of hints from
personal documents but no luck with searching the databases. It
appears that the family was living in Konstantin (current
Starokosyantyniv Ukraine) when leaving to start their journey to the
U.S. after my ggf died. My great grandfather's name has been
translated as Shima ( Shoma) Moishe Yankelev Katsmazovskij and I know
from family letters that my great grandfather died on February 14,
1920 of a burst appendix ( I am assuming he died in Konstantin). He is
listed in a court document in my possession as being >from the middle
class in the town of Sharhorod. ( Beiders lists the name Katsmazovskij
as derived >from the Town of Katsmaziv which I found on Gazetteer) His
wife Bejla Zelmanovna Kogan is listed as >from Soroca and my
grandfather Froim Shamov Katsmazovskij is also listed as being born
there. Shima had a brother named Shmul Bery Moishe Yankelev
Katsmazovskij who was married to Ruchel Utchetel. There is evidence
that Shima and Berl's mother lived in Chernivitz ( Chernvitzi Ukraine)
and remarried. I have been searching the databases and on all of
them coming up with nothing.

I was able to take a signature >from one of my letters and have a
Russian friend translate the name into cyrillic to expand the search.
It is
(Lyris cannot read the coded characters)
Where and how can I use the cyrillic spelling in my search? Any and
all help will be greatly appreciated in breaking down this wall. Many
Thanks,

Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
rlittrph@gmail.com
Researching KATSMAZOVSKIJ, KOGAN, BURDEINIC, ZNAYDE in Konstantin,
Soroca, Chernivtsi, Brazil, Argentina


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fwd: Katsmazovskij in cyrillic #ukraine

Rachelle Litt
 

Maybe someone can help with a frustrating aspect of my family search.
I am looking for any family records >from the old country but cannot
come up with any close matches at all. I have lots of hints from
personal documents but no luck with searching the databases. It
appears that the family was living in Konstantin (current
Starokosyantyniv Ukraine) when leaving to start their journey to the
U.S. after my ggf died. My great grandfather's name has been
translated as Shima ( Shoma) Moishe Yankelev Katsmazovskij and I know
from family letters that my great grandfather died on February 14,
1920 of a burst appendix ( I am assuming he died in Konstantin). He is
listed in a court document in my possession as being >from the middle
class in the town of Sharhorod. ( Beiders lists the name Katsmazovskij
as derived >from the Town of Katsmaziv which I found on Gazetteer) His
wife Bejla Zelmanovna Kogan is listed as >from Soroca and my
grandfather Froim Shamov Katsmazovskij is also listed as being born
there. Shima had a brother named Shmul Bery Moishe Yankelev
Katsmazovskij who was married to Ruchel Utchetel. There is evidence
that Shima and Berl's mother lived in Chernivitz ( Chernvitzi Ukraine)
and remarried. I have been searching the databases and on all of
them coming up with nothing.

I was able to take a signature >from one of my letters and have a
Russian friend translate the name into cyrillic to expand the search.
It is
(Lyris cannot read the coded characters)
Where and how can I use the cyrillic spelling in my search? Any and
all help will be greatly appreciated in breaking down this wall. Many
Thanks,

Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
rlittrph@gmail.com
Researching KATSMAZOVSKIJ, KOGAN, BURDEINIC, ZNAYDE in Konstantin,
Soroca, Chernivtsi, Brazil, Argentina


Book announcement #galicia

Israel P
 

I am pleased to announce that my book "ENDOGAMY: One Family, One
People" is now available for preorder, with a release date of 16 August. The
book deals with genetic genealogy and analysis of DNA test results with
special emphasis on endogamous populations, those who - like European
Jews - have been marrying within the tribe for hundreds of years.

Endogamy is a special challenge for genetic genealogy and this is the first
book on the subject. See the foreword and mission statement at
www.endogamy-one-family.com.

"ENDOGAMY: One Family, One People" is also personal in the sense that my
own families, particularly the Pikholz families of east Galicia, are the basis
for my work with DNA and this is largely their story.

I shall be speaking at several venues in the United States in the second half
of August, and they are listed on the website together with other information.

I'd be pleased if you would pass this on to anyone who you think might be
interested.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Book announcement #galicia

Israel P
 

I am pleased to announce that my book "ENDOGAMY: One Family, One
People" is now available for preorder, with a release date of 16 August. The
book deals with genetic genealogy and analysis of DNA test results with
special emphasis on endogamous populations, those who - like European
Jews - have been marrying within the tribe for hundreds of years.

Endogamy is a special challenge for genetic genealogy and this is the first
book on the subject. See the foreword and mission statement at
www.endogamy-one-family.com.

"ENDOGAMY: One Family, One People" is also personal in the sense that my
own families, particularly the Pikholz families of east Galicia, are the basis
for my work with DNA and this is largely their story.

I shall be speaking at several venues in the United States in the second half
of August, and they are listed on the website together with other information.

I'd be pleased if you would pass this on to anyone who you think might be
interested.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Re: CUNEA surname #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Carol, Sig-Members

You should first seek the obvious and not the exotic.

Cunea , Cuna, Cuni are Yiddish shortenings for the Hebrew name Elkanah.

It's a well established first name. Many times in Romania, first names
were adopted as surnames. It would also happen that if a newborn Avram
to a father Moishe sin Cunea, would be registered as Avram Cunea.
Others cases would register a Moishe sin Cunea as Moishe Cunea. From
1895, at least legally, you'd need to go through a procedure to change
a name registered in the records.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel
---------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Carol Rombro Rider cromrider@aol.com
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Meryl Menon asked if anyone was familiar with the surname CUNEA found
on a document for her mother.
Go to www.avotaynu.com and look under "Search Jewish Surnames".

There are two listings for where the surname can be found.This online
resource is one that should always be consulted, especially if you are
looking for an unusual name.

There is a listing for CUNEO (with an accent above the "N") in
"Dictionary of Sephardic Surnames" by Guilherme Faiguenboim,
Paulo Valadares and Anna Rosa Campagnano. Since a great deal of
Romania was once part of the Ottoman Empire, this should not be
surprising.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: CUNEA surname #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Carol, Sig-Members

You should first seek the obvious and not the exotic.

Cunea , Cuna, Cuni are Yiddish shortenings for the Hebrew name Elkanah.

It's a well established first name. Many times in Romania, first names
were adopted as surnames. It would also happen that if a newborn Avram
to a father Moishe sin Cunea, would be registered as Avram Cunea.
Others cases would register a Moishe sin Cunea as Moishe Cunea. From
1895, at least legally, you'd need to go through a procedure to change
a name registered in the records.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel
---------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Carol Rombro Rider cromrider@aol.com
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Meryl Menon asked if anyone was familiar with the surname CUNEA found
on a document for her mother.
Go to www.avotaynu.com and look under "Search Jewish Surnames".

There are two listings for where the surname can be found.This online
resource is one that should always be consulted, especially if you are
looking for an unusual name.

There is a listing for CUNEO (with an accent above the "N") in
"Dictionary of Sephardic Surnames" by Guilherme Faiguenboim,
Paulo Valadares and Anna Rosa Campagnano. Since a great deal of
Romania was once part of the Ottoman Empire, this should not be
surprising.


Jewish Soldiers & Napoleonic Wars #poland

David Slater
 

Family lore has a KRAUZE [KRAUSS / KRAUSE] ancestor as a soldier >from the
Austrian Empire [don't know town or province] fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars (probably abt 1812) ending up in Bialystok where the family remained
until coming to the U.S. in 1904. I have Bialystok records for the family
taking me back to only the mid 19th century, and am trying to link further
back to see if can find this soldier.

Any suggestions or information about Jews fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars would be appreciated. Family lore has it that he was a soldier in
Napoleon's army, but am wondering if, instead, he was a conscript in the
Austrian army fighting against Napoleon. I know there was fighting around
Bialystok in 1812 during Napoleon's Russian campaign and surmise that's
when, and where, he went >from soldier to Bialystoker.

Thanks!

David Slater
Atlanta, Georgia


Researching:

SCHLACHTER, DROBIS, SKODOWITZ, BARON - Kavarskas
SIMONSOHN [SIMSON in US], WEINSTEIN, WINBLER, SCHWARTZ - Riga
WASHILKOVSKY, KRAUZE, FIXEL, COHEN, KUPER - Bialystok
DEUTSCH, MOSHKOVSKY, MONTE, BUKOVITZKI, KOZNITZ - Slonim
FUKSON (Fox in US) - Bobruisk


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Jewish Soldiers & Napoleonic Wars #poland

David Slater
 

Family lore has a KRAUZE [KRAUSS / KRAUSE] ancestor as a soldier >from the
Austrian Empire [don't know town or province] fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars (probably abt 1812) ending up in Bialystok where the family remained
until coming to the U.S. in 1904. I have Bialystok records for the family
taking me back to only the mid 19th century, and am trying to link further
back to see if can find this soldier.

Any suggestions or information about Jews fighting during the Napoleonic
Wars would be appreciated. Family lore has it that he was a soldier in
Napoleon's army, but am wondering if, instead, he was a conscript in the
Austrian army fighting against Napoleon. I know there was fighting around
Bialystok in 1812 during Napoleon's Russian campaign and surmise that's
when, and where, he went >from soldier to Bialystoker.

Thanks!

David Slater
Atlanta, Georgia


Researching:

SCHLACHTER, DROBIS, SKODOWITZ, BARON - Kavarskas
SIMONSOHN [SIMSON in US], WEINSTEIN, WINBLER, SCHWARTZ - Riga
WASHILKOVSKY, KRAUZE, FIXEL, COHEN, KUPER - Bialystok
DEUTSCH, MOSHKOVSKY, MONTE, BUKOVITZKI, KOZNITZ - Slonim
FUKSON (Fox in US) - Bobruisk


Czarne & Solotwina #poland

Stahl, Sheryl <sstahl@...>
 

Hi,

I'm trying to track down records of my great-grandmother Jeanette
Schmerzler. Her parents were Pincus Schmertzer and Freida Kremer
and she was born in 1876 (her birth date and parents' names are
from her 1945 NY certificate of death.) The Schmertzers seem to
be >from Kolomyya (now Ukraine)

I looked on the JRI database and found records of some children
of Pincus and Freida but none seem to match Jeanettes. There was
Czarne born is 1878 but this was marked as male. Is "Czarne"
usually a boy's or girl's name?

On one of the children's records, it indicates that Freida was
from Solotwina. There seem to be a couple of choices for this
town, but the most likely to me looks like
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-
1054671 Solotvyn - about 70 kilometers >from Kolomyya. But I don't
see any records >from there. Can someone point out where to search?

Thanks,
Sheryl Stahl


JRI Poland #Poland Czarne & Solotwina #poland

Stahl, Sheryl <sstahl@...>
 

Hi,

I'm trying to track down records of my great-grandmother Jeanette
Schmerzler. Her parents were Pincus Schmertzer and Freida Kremer
and she was born in 1876 (her birth date and parents' names are
from her 1945 NY certificate of death.) The Schmertzers seem to
be >from Kolomyya (now Ukraine)

I looked on the JRI database and found records of some children
of Pincus and Freida but none seem to match Jeanettes. There was
Czarne born is 1878 but this was marked as male. Is "Czarne"
usually a boy's or girl's name?

On one of the children's records, it indicates that Freida was
from Solotwina. There seem to be a couple of choices for this
town, but the most likely to me looks like
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-
1054671 Solotvyn - about 70 kilometers >from Kolomyya. But I don't
see any records >from there. Can someone point out where to search?

Thanks,
Sheryl Stahl

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