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Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto. Exclusive free MyHeritage webinar on Thursday July 16 at 10 am EST #announcements #events

Jerry Scherer
 

Jewish Genealogy Society of Toronto. Exclusive free MyHeritage webinar on Thursday July 16 at 10 am EST. 

 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto is proud to present MyHeritage Genealogy Expert, Daniel Horowitz, in a series of exclusive free genealogical webinars on Thursdays @ 10 am EST.

 

Thu, July 16 @ 10 a.m. EST. Genealogy on the Go - MyHeritage Mobile App”  by Daniel Horowitz

The MyHeritage free mobile app for iPhone, iPad, and Android puts your family history right at your fingertips: access and enhance your family tree on the go, find new relatives, make amazing discoveries and interview relatives to preserve their stories.
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Re: help with one or two handwritten characters on us census #general

WWW
 

Image is quite blurry. However, at his age and how it looks, probably not S for Single. So that leaves M for Married or W for Widowed. So, was he a Widower? 

Bill Wolpert in Minneapolis 
WOLPERT VOLPERT WOLPER WOLFE GROSSBERG 
Vieksniai Tryskiai Lithuania 


Re: Research individuals in France #france

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Searching Michnel Beserglik for Deborah 

According to my previous answer, point 1.1.1., I attach copy of the two pages of "French Journal Officiel (JO)" edited on July 3rd, 1938 where naturalization decree of Michnel is published (see last page, middle second column).
File can be copied at French National Archives, point 1.1.4.
Michnel was 31', not maried with a foreign wife (she would appear in same decree), or maried with an already French wife.

Michnel had been KIA, "Mort pour la France", during nazi invasion of France (Blitzkrieg) on June 16th, 1940, a few days before cease fire and armistice : I attach another page of JO published in 1943. He should be buried in a national war cemetery.
His military file is kept in our national military archives of Caen
https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/recherche_transversale/bases_nominatives_detail_fiche.php?fonds_cle=7&ref=1670196&debut=0

Another couple named Beserglik, Kalma and ?, had been naturalized in 1948 , decree published in JO of 1949, see document.

Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund) of France


Re: Daughter of Saul Ben Judah (Sir Saul Wahl) Wahl Katzenellenbogen #names

tsvikaroz@...
 

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 03:52 PM, Stanley Levine wrote:
Dear Stan,
Please see the link to the profile of Nechama, wife of Aharon Moses (Munk) : https://www.geni.com/people/Nechama-Ashkenazi-Teomim/6000000001037943249
(she happens to be my wife's 13th GGM...)
According to the info on Geni.com, she was NOT the daughter of Saul Katzenellenbogen, but of Rabbi Moses Ahron Teomim-Fraenkel (Teomim) and Rivkah Teomim (Horowitz).
Kind regards,
Tsvi ROZENBLAT


Re: Gospitalna Street in Minsk #belarus

Carl Kaplan
 

Great answers. I went to the suggested link,

There is a website  (in Russian), https://minsk-old-new.com/life/pereimenovaniya/tablica-pereimenovaniya-ulic

There are many entries, all titled Minsk Commemorative Book for different years. I am trying to figure out whether I should get some of them translated. Any chance you know whether they are simply a list of streets, or whether they are actually city directories that might have my family in them. Just curious before I take on a large endeavor. Thanks again.


Re: Who buried the deceased after Liberation in the Netherlands #holocaust

nick@...
 

Hallo Anne Kestenbaum
The cemetery is described in Dutch at  https://www.joodsamsterdam.nl/begraafplaats-diemen/ The owner is the Nederlandse Israelitische Hoofdsynagoge which can be found at https://www.nik.nl/nihs-amsterdam/ with an email address info@...
While all this is in Dutch, I am sure that you have a translation program that will give you the key points. And if you write to that email address, I am sure you will get a reply in English.
From the inscription, it looks as if the stone was arranged by his wife.
Hope this helps you.
Regards, Nick Lambrechtsen


Reference to "Schleichera Filipa" Lviv Cemetery Records 1941-1942 #galicia #holocaust

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,
I am referring to the collection of Lviv Cemetery Records, 1941-1942, which is viewable via JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial Registry.

This collection includes many burial records where the address of the person is listed as  "Schleichera Filipa" street .

Question:      --- Does this street hold any special role in Lwow's Holocaust history?  ---

Thank you for any insight - Yaron


Re: Who buried the deceased after Liberation in the Netherlands #holocaust

N. ARONSON
 

My family lived in Holland before and after the war. My grandfather & father were lucky enough to escape to Switzerland during the war but my grandfather's unmarried sister was too scared to join them on their flight. She died March 1943 all on her own without any relatives. Her body was discovered by the police (I've found the police report on-line) but she is buried in the Jewish cemetery! Not only that, but a matzeva was actually put on her grave and it remained a mystery, something my late father often wondered about, as to who put it up.


Looking for Warsaw and Brest-Litovsk addresses #belarus #warsaw

Michael Rosenberg
 

Could anyone point me in the right direction to find my ancestors' addresses in Brest Litovsk and Warsaw in the 20s and 30s?
Many thanks
Michael Rosenberg
Canberra, AUSTRALIA


Re: Bedzin #france

lorraine71uk@...
 

My family lived in Bedzin. Sadly last member died three years ago. Sam Pivnik wrote a book Survivor and wrote about growing up there before the war. My family was Abramovitch and Pivnik and Sam’s book refers to the address where they lived. Search on line and his brother Nathan Pivnik which may give you more information. Regards.


Re: Daughter of Saul Ben Judah (Sir Saul Wahl) Wahl Katzenellenbogen #names

anthony.rabin@...
 

Stan

I think you will find that the Nechele in question, married to R. Aaron Moses Ashkenazi Munk, was the daughter of Moses Aaron Teomim of Prague and  Rivka (bat Israel) Horowitz of Prague. Nechele and Aaron Moses Munk's daughter Rachel married the famous Rabbi Yom Tov Lipman Halevi Heller

Good luck with the research

Anthony Rabin
London UK


ggf SIMON STAUB in Breslau;; died Treb. 1945; any relatives? #germany

weinbergsart@...
 

I am looking for STAUB in Breslau, 1945. My ggf SIMON STAUB-pots/pans factory.
Thank you. Daniel Weinberg #12555


Re: Questions about Document in Germany #germany

Eva Lawrence
 

I apologise for the omission. I clicked the link 'reply to this
message' and also used the same subject line as the query in my
response. Unfortunately that wasn't picked up. Perhaps I should have
used a hashtag? . If we gave the number of the digest and the number
of the message we are replying to, this would not cater for the people
who receive each message as it is posted. Could each message posted
have a unique reference number? That might be a simple solution and easy
to implement. . I'd like to avoid receiving the same conversations many
times in my inbox, each iteration longer than the last. Inboxes get
cluttered up enough already.. Unique reference numbers would also
become long and unwieldy, but we start the numbering afresh every year.


------ Original Message ------
From: "David Lewin" <david@...>.aTo:
main@...; "Eva Lawrence" <eva.lawrence@...>
Sent: 14/07/2020 08:44:05
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] #general #germany Questions about Document
in Germany

At 16:19 13/07/2020, Eva Lawrence wrote:

It is possible that the document was prepared for some unpleasant purpose. However, in that case I'm surprised that it still exists, and wasn't destroyed by its owner to avoid the post-war Nazi hunt. It's more likely that the list was made for an interested genealogist.
Genealogy was a popular pastime for middle-class men in the 1930s., and I have a similar document sent to my great-uncle, who was very interested in the history of the family. My father inherited this list, together with his uncle's hobby and used the information he'd collected to good effect to find relatives abroad to help with our emigration. In fact my very elderly grandmother's visa to England was from along-lost nephew on her family tree.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.
_._,_._,_
I would like to protest the new Jewishgen format and use this message as a typical example

To me, at least, a response to an absent question is meaningless. How can the "Power that Be" of Jewishgen use a system in which response of their users are rendered meaningless. It cannot be beyond the ability of those who now how to code text, to devise a method which always reproduces the source of the item being responded to.

David Lewin
London

--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

spolon@...
 

The real and official yiddish name is Dwoire (Dvoyre) which can be found in Polish and Russian civil records. Devorah is the Biblical name which was not used in dayly life. Look for references A. Beider, A dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names, Avotaynu, 2001, p. 493. 
Max Polonovski, CGJ, Paris


Re: Questions about Document in Germany #germany

David Lewin
 

At 16:19 13/07/2020, Eva Lawrence wrote:

It is possible that the document was prepared for some unpleasant
purpose. However, in that case I'm surprised that it still exists,
and wasn't destroyed by its owner to avoid the post-war Nazi hunt.
It's more likely that the list was made for an interested genealogist.
Genealogy was a popular pastime for middle-class men in
the 1930s., and I have a similar document sent to my great-uncle,
who was very interested in the history of the family. My father
inherited this list, together with his uncle's hobby and used the
information he'd collected to good effect to find relatives abroad
to help with our emigration. In fact my very elderly grandmother's
visa to England was from along-lost nephew on her family tree.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.
_._,_._,_
I would like to protest the new Jewishgen format and use this message
as a typical example

To me, at least, a response to an absent question is
meaningless. How can the "Power that Be" of Jewishgen use a system
in which response of their users are rendered meaningless. It cannot
be beyond the ability of those who now how to code text, to devise a
method which always reproduces the source of the item being responded to.

David Lewin
London


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

You did not say which country Dwoire was from.  This is not a
misspelling at all.  The "w" is pronounced like a "v" in a number of
languages.  This would be a correct spelling in Poland, for example. 
You can't assume that
a spelling is wrong because it is not the current American spelling.  
Have you found any records for Dwoire in Europe so you can see her
spelling was in Europe?  Can you find the information for the ticket in NYC?

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia


On the ship manifest her given name is spelled "Dwoire," an obvious
phonetic misspelling of Devorah.  Her ticket was purchased in New York
by her husband. The name Devorah is not an unusual or difficult to spell
so its hard to understand how the steamship ticket agent could have
misspelled her name so badly. The only two logical explanations I can
come up with are (1) her husband spelled her name incorrectly on the
ticket application and handed it to the agent who copied it exactly the
way it was spelled on the application, or (2) her given name was
actually spelled correctly on the ticket, but at the port of embarkation
when she was asked her last name and first name the official may have
heard her say what sounded like, "Dwoire" and made the spelling change
that showed up on the final manifest. We can't overlook the fact that
our ancestors spoke with a thick Yiddish/Eastern European accent.
--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: Members of A Feld Family #general

Helen Gardner
 

FELD is, alas, a common name. Still, no harm in seeing if anyone connects.

My grandfather was Yitzhak FELD b abt 1860. Family story says he came from Poznan in Poland but I have never been able to find any record to confirm that. He married Henya Mlynarz and they lived and died in Warsaw. They had 6 children.

Aaron 1890-1919, Chava 1892-1941, Nathan 1894-1948 (my father), Zelda (1896-1955), Rubin (1897-1942) and Rose (1908-1993).

 

If any of this rings bells with you, please contact me on helen@...


--
Helen Gardner

ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw

AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Dick Plotz
 

Besides, the idea that names had a "correct" spelling was pretty much
confined to the upper classes until well into the twentieth century in
most of Europe and the United States. People spelled their own names
and other people's names however they sounded to them. I've seen 19th
century vital records from *cities* in Germany from the 19th century
in which the same person's name was spelled three different ways, in
the same document! Spelling simply wasn't a salient feature of names,
for most people.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:06 PM Jules Levin <ameliede@...> wrote:

The name was not misspelled. Dwoire is perfect Yiddish dialect spelling
of Dvora. If you go to shul where Galitzianers pray, you will hear
"toire" for Torah. "Misspelling" implies that there was some Academy of
Yiddish determining correct spelling in Latin letters. It didn't exist.

Jules Levin

On 7/13/2020 10:52 AM, Jx. Gx. wrote:

Hello Michele Lock.

Your account about Abram and Rose Schiffman reminded me about a
similar incident involving my ggm, Shulieh Devorah Epstein, nee Zalman.

On the ship manifest her given name is spelled "Dwoire," an obvious
phonetic misspelling of Devorah.


Who buried the deceased after Liberation in the Netherlands #holocaust

akestenbaum@...
 

I recently came upon a photo of a gravestone for my husband's grandfather in the Netherlands which I don't believe anybody in his family knew about.  He died in Amsterdam on April 5, 1945 but the Netherlands wasn't liberated until May 5, 1945.  The only other relative I have found that would have been with him was his wife who died a few years later and I have no record of where she is interned, if at all.  My mother-in-law was an only child and had been sent to America at a much earlier date and sadly was never able to see or speak to them again.  Hence this finding was quite a surprise. 

I have attached a picture of the gravestone as well as the cemetery.  As I doubt he would have been buried before the end of the war, especially in a Jewish cemetery, where would the bodies have been before burial, who would have buried him and when?  I highly suspect it would have been one of the relief agencies but no idea as to whom would have been so kind to do so.  

Anne Kestenbaum
Toronto


Simcha Goldberg from Mielic, his daughter Reizel Brand or Bracha Tager from Hanover Germany #germany

Genealogy Researcher
 

I am researching for any information possible on "Simcha Goldberg" from the town Mielic (son of "Moshe Menachem Goldberg").
He had two daughters. Reizel (married to David Brand) & Bracha (married to Peretz Tager), which both lived in Hanover Germany before the 2nd world war.
 
Simcha Goldberg married to "Raca". I am researching who were the parents of Raca???
 
Thank You!
Moses Adler