BLUMSTEIN from Goworowo, Poland #poland #yizkorbooks

Stanley Diamond

In the process of fully extracting the random surviving 19th century records of Ostrolęka, the
JRI-Poland volunteer discovered that they include the pre-1917 vital records of Goworowo. 
A long-time mystery solved!
In addition, JRI-Poland received permission to inspect the surviving 20th century records for
various years between 1917 and 1936 in the Civil Records Office in the Goworowo town hall.
We used the opportunity to extract all the marriage and death records that are no longer
subject to Polish laws protecting personal data. While the births from 1920 to 1937 remain
private, we know which family names that appear in the births.
Researchers with an interest in Goworowo can obtain additional information by writing to:
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.

BLUMSTEIN from Goworowo, Poland #poland #yizkorbooks
From: fkolbrener@...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:09:03 EDT

Looking for any information on the family of Velvel BLUMSTEIN and wife Fiege, formerly of Goworowo, Poland. 
Per the Yizkor book, the town was burned to include all the historical and vital records in 1939 and several people with the name BLUMSTEIN were lost in the Holocaust.  Pages of testimony on Yad Vashem are not posted for most of them and only source for the names is the necrology list in the Goworowo Yizkor book.  One of their children, Avram emigrated to the US via Canada in 1921, but did not share any family details with his children or grandchildren.  Velvel BLUMSTEIN was a watchmaker and jeweler. 

Fred Kolbrener

KOLBRENER / BOHRER/ Lezajsk, Poland
SCHWARTZ/  Glogow Malopolski, Poland
BLUMSTEIN / Goworowo, Poland

Ship Manifests, immigration #general

Howard Morris

If a name in the Manifest is on the Record of Detained Aliens or Held for Special Inquiry, wouldn’t that name also be in the body of the complete Manifest List? Ancestry and the other search sites point me to a name on Record of Detained Aliens or Special Inquiry lust, but do not find the name in the complete Manifest. Why? Is there an explanation for this?

Gershon Kleinman from Warsaw #poland


Does anyone know the name Gershon Kleinman that left Warsaw in 1921

Thank you

Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Aaron Slotnik

A distinctive feature of the MyHeritage index to Ellis Island passenger manifests is that they indexed the destination column. I've found some relatives that way that I would have never found otherwise.


Aaron Slotnik

Chicago, IL

Weinstock from Hungary #general #hungary #slovakia

Moishe Miller

Dear Group,
My g-g-gf was Jonasz (Yona) Weinstock, (born in VelkyHores, to Isak Weinstock and Rosalie Moskowitz, about 1832). This detail comaes from the 1869 Hungarian Census, where he is living in the town of Tokaj (part of Zemplen county) with his wife (Rachel Benjamin) and 5 children. My g-gf was Moritz Weinstock (1869-1949).

I am searching for Jonasz's date and place of death, The only clue I have is that the marriage record of Jonasz's son, Fulop, married 4 Dec 1892 in the town of Nagyvarad, lists that both the bride and groom's parents were alive. So I do know he likely passed after 1892. 

If anyone has suggestions, I would appreciate it.

Thank you, 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY 
JGFF# 3391

Birth records in New York, #usa

Marcia Segal

One set of great-grandparents (Samuel and Clara Siegel) came from Romania with two young daughters, arriving in New York around May-June 1888. I'm assuming May-June because I have a copy of the manifest that puts them in Liverpool on May 7. Nothing for their arrival in the US. The delayed birth filing record for a sibling who was born later indicated that a child was born in New York. Nothing more specific than that, and the name Razel. There is no record for the child in the 1895 New Jersey census. The family was established in New Jersey by 1892.

Problem: I know the surname can be spelled any number of ways but there are so many variables on how to approach this that I'm not sure where to start. Nobody is around from that generation who remembers any of this. I didn't even know the child existed until a few years ago. I suspect this is going to be hands on research through paper or microfilm. Suggestions for approaches are very much welcome. This is one of those "enduring mysteries" I want to solve, because I will be the last person in my family to do the work--you know how this goes.


Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland virtual meeting on August 5, 2020 #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Sylvia Fleck Abrams

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for a virtual program on
Wednesday, August 5, 2020
at 7:00 pm

The Benefits, Limitations and Ethical Challenges of Genetic Testing 
in Health and Genealogy Settings

Presented by Dr. Aaron Goldenberg
Vice Chair & Associate Professor
Department of Bioethics
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine

As commercial genetic testing becomes cheaper and more available, many individuals and families are using these technologies to explore their own health, as well as their ancestry. However, the use of genetic testing also raises many ethical and social questions regarding the accuracy of genetic ancestry tests, the impact that genetic information may have on one’s identity, and the potential misuse of personal genetic data. The presentation will explore the benefits, limitations, and ethical challenges of genetic testing in health and genealogy settings.

Dr. Aaron Goldenberg is Vice-Chair and Associate Professor in the Department of Bioethics at Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine. He is also the Research Director for the Department and Co-Director of the Case Western Center for Genetic Research Ethics and Law. Dr. Goldenberg’s work has focused on the ethical, legal, and social implications of genetics and genomics in clinical and public health settings.

This program is free and open to the public, but capacity is limited. 
Priority will be given to members of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland.
We will be using the Zoom meeting platform, so you may watch, listen and participate from the comfort of your own home.

Preregistration is required, and must be requested by NOON on August 5th.

To preregister, send an email message with your Name, Email address, current location, and Zip Code, by clicking here: rsvp@...

After you register, you will receive an email reply acknowledging receipt of your message. Once we have established the details for joining the meeting, we will forward those details, including a link and passcode to each registrant.

If you have any problems registering for the program, please contact: webmaster@...

Submitted by Sylvia F. Abrams
Immediate Past President 
On behalf of Program Committee

Jewish Documentary wins Emmy Award #announcements

Phil Goldfarb

Last night the documentary L'dor V'dor Generation to Generation: A History of Tulsa's Jewish Community won the Hartland Division Emmy Award for Best Historical Documentary. It was a collaboration between the Jewish Genealogical Society of Tulsa, the Tulsa Historical Society and the Jewish Federation of Tulsa. While the documentary focused on Jews in Tulsa, it could have been about Jews in any American City. The publicity that we as a Jewish Genealogy Society received was outstanding and the community got a better understanding of what Jews went through leaving the "old country" and what they did in the United States to become successful. It was shown at a local movie theater for two weeks as well as on numerous PBS stations around the United States and can be viewed on YouTube at: 

Phil Goldfarb
JGS of Tulsa

Re: Looking for possible relatives in Israel for 91-year-old Holocaust survivor #holocaust



What were Paula's parents' names? Did Paula's mother have any other siblings? What were Paula's mother's parents and grandparents (if Paula knows)? Any other information re. Paula/her family?


Shabbos meals #belarus


Does anyone know the prevalence or geographic relationship of the custom of eating dairy meals for Friday night dinner?  When I was growing up, the default dinner for Shabbos was milchig.  Both sides of my family were from northwestern Belarus, my father's side from Smargon, and my mother's from Soly, with Kruki, Lithuania in the mix. 

When I asked about milchig dinners, because my friends had fleishig, I was told that "all Smargoners ate milchig on Shabbos",  by a former resident.

Re: IAJGS Conference Announcement #jgs-iajgs #education #events #announcements

tony hausner

When will the list of virutal lectures be accessible?  

Re: Help in translating a German document dated 1939 #translation

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)

Hello Nick,

yes your interpretation of bothe sentences is correct, especially legally correct language is tricky to translate:
"vollständig frei verfügen" should be interpreted as "do as he/she pleases" instead of "free of charge" - this is an example for the limitations of using computerised translaton.

Regards from Germany
Corinna Wöhrl, Hoisdorf

Re: Reaching Out to Budapest City Archives for Resident Information (late 1800's to early 1900's) #galicia #hungary

Yaron Wolfsthal

Thank you, yes, I have carried out an online search on Hungarikana/Arcanum. I am now looking for additional information beyond those, such as resident lists and the like (which I'd expect to find in a city archive).
That was the motivation for my question about experience with that archive.

Besides that, your response is interesting with regard to the comment on "Some of it can be accessed only locally." - can you please elaborate? Examples of material that is only available for walk-in research?

Thank you - Yaron

Re: Public School 25 Brooklyn photos from ca. 1913 #photographs

Shelley Mitchell

That just leaves the NYC Board of Education and NY Department of Education. I believe it was NYC that provided me with a copy of my IQ test taken while I was in school. 

Re: Lithuania - Soloveitchik Brothers with Same Given Name #lithuania

Perry Shorris

Thanks for the response.  I am not troubled by the different surnames.  In the late 18th century, when surnames were a new phenomenon for Jews in Lithuania due to laws that had been passed, it was not uncommon for siblings to take different surnames.  My concern is the given names - two “brothers” with essentially the same given name.  The 1834 Revision list identifies my fourth-great-grandfather as the brother of Meyer Soloveitchik and son if Itsik.  The listing contains a specific note - “brother of Meyer Soloveitchik.”. Meyer Soloveitchik was indeed the son of Yitzhak, seemingly cooborating the notation that Movsha Shames was the son of Yitzhak.  We know that Meyer Soloveitchik was also the brother of Moshe Soloveitchik, rabbi of Kovno in the late 1700s.  Putting this all together suggests that Movsha Shames and Moshe Soloveitchik were brothers.  So my question comes back to the Ashkenazi practice of not giving siblings the same given name - is there an explanation for Movsha Shames and Moshe Soloveitchik being actual brothers, or is there another twist - i.e., they were half-brothers, or Movsha Shames was adopted and/or a foster child, etc.

Re: Reaching Out to Budapest City Archives for Resident Information (late 1800's to early 1900's) #galicia #hungary

Judy Petersen

Hi Yaron,
     MACSE (Hungarian Society for Family History Research) is an excellent resource for post 1895 Budapest vital records.  Its database is compiled by volunteers, so it is incomplete, but it is definitely worth a look before you go to the trouble of contacting the City Archives of Budapest.  The database is compiled from the civil records that have been digitized on familysearch, but the MACSE transcriptions are not available in the familysearch website.
     MACSE is fee for service ($30/year) and it can be a bit tricky to sign up (I can give you the email of the person who helped me).
     If you want to contact me privately, I'd be happy to do a short lookup and let you know what kinds of records, if any, are available for your relative.


Re: Reaching Out to Budapest City Archives for Resident Information (late 1800's to early 1900's) #galicia #hungary


Following. I have the same issue. Old letters from a relative for which I’ve hit a brick wall. Thanks

Włoszczowa New Extracts #poland


Alegata are supporting documents to a vital event. Prior to
registering a civil marriage, documents were submitted to corroborate
the age of each spouse; a statement of death for a widowed spouse and
one of divorce for a divorced spouse. Generally these documents were
copies of civil registrations made at the time of the event. If no
registration had been made, a signed affidavit was required. The town
Rabbi summarized the marriage in a stamped statement, and if the
couples were from two different towns, the respective Rabbi from each
town submitted testimony. The details of the statement typically
mirrored those in the marriage registration (age, parentage, town) and
additionally listed the dates of the Banns (formal notices announcing
and preceding the marriage).

Marriage Alegata are therefore a boon to researchers when birth
registrations did not survive. In the case of Wloszczowa, no birth,
marriage or death registrations survived from 1839-1850, 1853, and
yet, incredibly, the Marriage Alegata survived for all but two of
those years.

These records have been fully extracted, reflecting a total of 189
marriages over the period. While most of the spouses resided either in
Wloszczowa or in surrounding villages, a number of spouses were from
Przedborz, Przyrow and Checiny. For a list of 241 surnames appearing
in these marriages and for additional details, please contact me.

Judy Golan
JRI-Poland Kielce Area Coordinator

Please contact me, FETELL in America #poland #ukraine #galicia


I want to contact my relatives in America, who are the descendants of ABRAM /AVRUM LEJB FERTEL from LABUN (Poland, Ukraine) in the 1920th. In September 1921 they have taken a ship from Danzig/Gdansk and came to America.
Their names are: Moize/MOISHE (born 3.07.1912, changed his name to MILTON FETELL), JANKIEL (changed name Jack FETELL, born 1.04.1908), CHAIM ( changed name HENRY IRVING FETELL, born 09.03.1912?),  MANIA (MIRIAM FETELL/ TALMADGE, born 22.03.1903) and USLA (ADELL FETELL/ NORFLUS, born 24.05.1905). Her second husband was William ZARROW.   The children of Jack have names KAUFMANN und LAKS.
The children of Milton are Arthur and Howard. 
I am the grandchild of Shmuel Abramovitch FERTEL, who was born in the second marriage. Later we all lived in BIROBIDSHAN (Russia).

Jana Tegel

Re: Looking for possible relatives in Israel for 91-year-old Holocaust survivor #holocaust

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך

My father survived from holocaust  from Poland 

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