Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Pieter Hoekstra

If you are looking for access to newspaper entries in Netherlands you can use "" for free. It is all in Dutch so you might need to use a translator to translate key search words.

Once you have found the article, ad, etc you are looking for you can highlight it to download. You can also highlight it and download as text which you can then copy to your preferred translator.

Pieter Hoekstra  <sold@...>

Oelbaum and Yudkowsky (from Roshitz Dynasty) families #general

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi NOaxh Isac Oelbaum who
had a daughter married to a physician (pediatrician) and their
daughter Bracha married Yitzy (Yitzchak) Yudkowsky.

Equivalent Name for Rose #names

Nina Tobias

Hello all,

Strong evidence indicates that the first name of my paternal great-grandmother was the English equivalent Rose. I do not know her birthplace, but she died in Iasi, Romania. 

I'm looking for suggestions of Hebrew, Yiddish or other possible names which might translate to '"Rose".

With thanks,
Nina Tobias
Scottsdale, Arizona

Researching: HOROWITZ (Iasi, Romania; Odessa)
                      SWARTZ (Iasi, Romania; Philadelphia; Chicago)
                      TOBIAS (Rymanow, Galicia; Chicago)
,                     VOROBYEV, GOLDMAN, VERB (Russia; Chicago)
Nina Tobias
Scottsdale, Arizona

Researching: HOROWITZ (Iasi, Romania; Odessa)
                      SWARTZ (Iasi, Romania; Philadelphia; Chicago)
                      TOBIAS (Rymanow, Galicia; Chicago)
,                     VOROBYEV, GOLDMAN, VERB (Russia; Chicago)

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Jerry Scherer

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Yogev family in Chicago #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of psychologist Saea Yogev and
her husband pediatrician Rami Yogev of Chicago. Their children are
Tomer, Eldad and Shelly. The family traces back to the Frenkel-Avigdor
rabbinical family (Rabbi Jacob Avigdor of Mexico City) as well as the
Horowitz Chassidic Dynasty of Lesko (Linsk) and Ropshitz.

Let's Introduce Ourselves #bessarabia

Stephen Cohen

Though I have been a member of this list for nearly 25 years, I’ll reintroduce myself—or rather, my ancestors:
NAYMAN/Newman from Lenino in southern Belarus
KANTOROVITCH from Lakhva in southern Belarus
GUREWICZ/Horowitz from David-Horodok in southern Belarus
KUPERMAN/Kooperman/Cooperman from Goworowo and environs in northeastern Poland
SZWARCBERG/Schwartzberg from Ostrow Mazowiecka in northeastern Poland
KUSHELEVITZ from Kossovo in Belarus
WITTENBERG from Mariampole and Prienai in Lithuania
KIGEL from Ivnitsa and environs in Ukraine
POLYAK/Pollack from Kodnya in Ukraine
SHERMAN from Zhitomir in Ukraine

There are some side branches, but those are the main points of interest.

—Steve Cohen, central New Jersey

Definition of family name #names #poland


looking for a definition of the surname  KORABELNIK. It's my father name. The origin is Suwalki area, poland.

leah Freund

Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

Max Heffler

Now if I could just sync my Brother’s Keeper (my master database) with my one tree on geni, it would be great!


From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Dahn Cukier via
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 1:24 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] Genealogy Software For Family Trees #General



You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Searching Stein family from Hulon, Israel #israel


For a friend - she is searching for Avram Stein and his sister Mattie born in the late 1950's or early 60's in Israel.  Mattie's married name is not known.  Their parents were Leib Stein and Toni nee Berkovitz (or Berkowicz).   They once had a tool and dye shop in Tel Aviv, which was aready closed when my friend visited in 1979.  They  had a home in Hulon.  Toni's parents (first names not known) lived on a short street south and perpendicular to Bartenura Street (which is close to Nordau St) in Tel Aviv.    
Madeleine Okladek

Re: Translate from polish #translation

Dr.Josef ASH

if it were Polish you could read it and see the name recorded in the line 9 in brackets. At the end of the previous, eight line the same name appears in Russian as well as all the document

Re: Seeking kin of GGF VULF SHESKIN OF VILNA #lithuania


There are some Seskins in the St. Louis Missouri area.

ROBERG #germany

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך

A boy from ROBERG family did a work in class about his family  generation and because of him I am glad to find another  4 generations till 1742.11 generations  from now.

Re: Gershon Kleinman from Warsaw #poland



Thank you, for that info,
To clarify Dora and the boys came over on the ship alone and it was there rules for them to stay at the hospital till they are picked up, they mere there for 3 days.
George was in the joint diseases in NYC which is now NYU. till he passes in Dec. 12 1947
The news that Dora was born in Lebrina Poland, this will be very helpful
If you find any other info I would love to hear from you 

Thank you again
Jerry Kleinman

Translate from polish #translation

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך
Maybe someone  know in polish where it's written lejzor bergerfrajd?

Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names


In Bob Malakoff's reply to this post he says:
"a Jewish naming convention where Jewish names consisted of a Hebrew name followed by an equivalent Yiddish name". I am wondering if Abraham Hermann is such a combination or not? Can anyone tell me?
Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA

Seeking kin of GGF VULF SHESKIN OF VILNA #lithuania


My grandmother, Sora Yenta Sheskin, was born in Vilna c. 1884. She married Yitzhak Golomb in 1909 and they together had 4 children (including my mother).  Sadly, Sora Yenta died in Vilna in 1919.  The only other Sheskin that I know of is Sora Yenta’s father, Vulf Sheskin.  Is anyone connected to these Sheskins and thus able to provide me with some information?  I know there are some Vulf Sheskins In the ALD but I don’t know enough to be able to determine if they are the correct individuals.

Many thanks in advance.

Judy Kasman


Re: the English equivalent of Asnel or Zammel #names

Dubin, David M. MD

Perhaps you mean Ansel? That would be a Germanic/Yiddish form of the Hebrew name Asher. It’s a man’s name, also spelled Anschel, Amsel, Amschel etc. 
Zammel (also Zemmel, Semmel and the like) Is a Yiddishized Samuel.  

Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

Dahn Cukier


You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.

It has it's own database.
There are over 100 types of data you can enter, with sources and notes.
You can add photos and documents as linked files, I think the
author told there is no known limit, I asked when I got to 20 documents
and wanted to know if I should add only photos or if I can link in
census, ellis island, draft cards, etc. You can add in any file type,
but I have not looked how to open each within BK, I open PDF with

There is a dedicated field for name variations, Hebrew,
nicknames, and many more. I add names in Hebrew without problems.

GED files can be exported and imported. I think you can split the database
by descendants, but I have not tried.

My "tree" has on my mother's side both her families, on
my father's side, both his parents, both my grandmother's parents
and a family that is close to me but not related, 2 brothers married
2 sisters. A total of 6 families and some small families that I added later.

You can print reports with or without duplicates (cousins that married).

I do not like the way the family tree prints page by page.
Until about 2000, you could use dot matrix printer and
print length wise on continuous paper. I now use a program
called "Agelong Tree" to produce family trees. I am hardware
limited to about 20 meters, (60+ feet) due to limitations of
hardware/software. I print the file at architect offices on plotters.

Anyone who wants to see a sample of the tree output I can send
a file with only dates and initials of 868K .


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 06:37:55 PM GMT+3, Teewinot <teewinot13@...> wrote:

Hi Cousins,

I've decided it's time I got some software to make my family tree, but
there are so many to choose from, it's giving me a headache! So I
thought I'd ask for recommendations.

Here is what I need:

1. A program that lets me include every family member (siblings;
cousins; aunts and uncles; 1st, 2nd, etc. marriages; etc.) in one giant
family tree.

2. A program that lets me enter birth, marriage, death info that is
printed right on the tree itself, so I don't have to refer to any other

3. A program that will let me print out this tree, even if it means
taping together a whole bunch of sheets, and will also allow me to make
the tree into a PDF file, so I can share it via email.

4. A program that is a true family tree, not just sheets listing
people. (A cousin gave me a printout like that, and it's way too hard
to follow.)

5. The program must be compatible with Windows 10.

I am not interested in anything else. I don't care if the program has
search the Internet features or not. I don't care if it's capable of
uploading or downloading data. I just need to be able to consolidate
all the hand-drawn trees and other papers I have into one coherent tree.

Thank you!
Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida
Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, KLUGMAN, STURMAN,
KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ,
BLAU (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia);
KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania);
CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)

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Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Jeff Miller

I find MyHeritage valuable because of their great analytical tools, and ability to search in multiple languages. I feel that they have a wonderful chromosome browser that actually identifies triangulated segments that are so much easier to see visually than anywhere else I've looked. 


However, I have found their account troublesome in the way they allow older versions of my family tree to hang around without allowing me to easily merge or supersede older information with newer, and I find Ancestry trees and its "companion" Family Tree Maker easier to use than MyHeritage trees and its Family Tree Builder. I also have trouble with MyHeritage handling of uploaded DNA and the way the site attempts to assign a person's DNA to trees even when the individual may not be in a tree. If it isn't successful in finding a tree, it has unassigned DNA accounts which can be annoying.



Jeff Miller



Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Jesse Springer

Fascinsting! Thanks for adding your knowledge here. 

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:51 PM Sally Bruckheimer via <> wrote:
Do all descendants of your great-grandfather all have similar Jewish DNA markers?  If they are only seen in one of his children's line it suggests differing parentage.

Every child inherits 50% of DNA from each parent, but each is a random assortment of the parent's DNA. So you and a sibling only share 25%. That is why organ transplant Dr. look at parents or children first for a good match.

So all descendants of a great-grandparent will not have the same Jewish DNA markers. There are a lot of markers checked, so DNA testing will probably find some, but not all the same.

Sally Bruckheimer
Molecular Biologist who knew this in high school
Princeton, NJ