Feierstein and Finkelstein from Mihaileni #romania

Margaret Kugel

My grandmother came from Mihaileni in Romania. According to Wikipedia there are several different towns called Mihaileni I would like to know how to find out which town is the right one.


Her family name was Feierstein or Fierstein or Feirstein. Her mother’s maiden name was Finkelstein. I would like to connect with anyone who has information on those families.


Margaret Kugel

Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Marsha Paiste

Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire

Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Lee Jaffe

I tried to answer this question about possible fatal accidents your "cutter" ancestor might have suffered earlier but the moderator misunderstood my reference to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and rejected my message.  But no one else has mentioned more common kinds of industrial accidents and I thought I'd try again.  

My  family had a clothing manufacturing business in Philadelphia for 70-80 years.  They had their own cutting shop where material was cut in bulk and sent out for sewing to a jobber.  They used electric saws to cut many layers of cloth at one time.  There were the occasional accidents with the saws but I never heard of a fatality.

More concerning were fires.  There was always a lot of dust in the air from cut fabric.  Scraps of fabric were everywhere, often in bins under the cutting tables.  Rolls of cloth -- weighing 100s of pounds -- were stacked on racks (maybe another accident waiting to happen).  And finished clothes hanging from racks.  All told, a lot of fuel for a fire, which could be started by any number of common sources.  The Triangle fire is the most famous but we still see reports of fatal sweatshop fires. 

If not fire, cutting shops were still industrial sites with plenty of opportunities for injury and death.

Lee Jaffe

Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

Barbara Ellman

All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
Births after 1909
Marriages certificates after 1937
Marriage Licenses after 1949
Deaths after 1948
Many of the indexes have been made available thanks to Reclaim the Records.  But actual documents are only available through the restrictive Health Department.

Barbara Ellman

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine


Did you try looking for death certificates? 

Re: Travel information sought for Rose FRIEDSON #usa

EdrieAnne Broughton

A lot of New Yorkers and New Englanders booked winter trips to Havana and the Caribbean to escape winter for a while, especially in the 1920-1940 time frame.  The trips were on cruise ships and lasted 1-3 weeks.  I've read that some of the cruise lines offered special fares to even up the single sex ratios.  My ancestors were never flush enough to get tickets.  Maybe that's why they went to California.
                   EdrieAnne Broughton
                       Vacaville, California

Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa


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Eli Savada
Bethesda MD

Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

Max Heffler

I have been using Brother’s Keeper since DOS before Windows and it has come a long way and the author is very responsive. And being shareware, it cost nothing to realize the value and quickly registered it and have paid negligible for updates since


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Hi Dani,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

You know, I didn't even think about that! I've been using computers
since the days of bulletin boards (before the Internet) and MS DOS
(before Windows), so it just never crosses my mind. Yeah, I'm fine with
it all.

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.

That sounds good.


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Harold Love

I find them all to be too expensive. I went with MyHeritage to house my Tree because it is huge but I haven’t gotten any new info there in ages. When I first joined they had an arrangement with that was fantastic. The deal expired and they never worked out a renewal so not only do subscribers not have access for new searches but everything that was archived to my ancestors disappeared. Their customer service is non-existent. I would go with the ultra-expensive Ancestry and should probably move my account and tree. Does anyone know where you can house a 2500 member tree for free?

Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Max Heffler

I prefer to use as my main online tree and match record on MyHeritage and also use By bouncing back and forth I fill in many from all 3.


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Seeking (Cohen) Bessie antecedents of Rosina Lhévinne (Netherlands) #russia

Judith Berlowitz

Uploading screen shot showing a Jacob Nathan Cohen Bessie in St Petersburg in 1864, as the link reportedly didn't work.
Judith Berlowitz

Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

I have been using Family Tree Maker since at least 2011, when it was still on 3.5" disks!   It does everything that you are are asking for and more.
I started Family Tree Maker with names and dates, and over the years have been adding to this basic information. 

You can collect and enter all kinds of information for every entry - not just vital statistics. When putting in vital statistics you can include locations and other information.  You can also add in data for things like Bar Mitzvah info, etc. There is a place for personal notes and research notes for each entry and that's where I copy in documents that I have, family stories,  etc.
You can also attach photos to the individuals on the tree and you can document the sources for the information.  You can have a number of separate trees, if you wish.

When you want to "publish" the family tree, you have a choice of formats and fonts, and you can decide how many generations you want to include in the tree and what information you want to include on the tree (birth and death date, other dates, etc).  I print out a huge tree of many pages and paste it together.  Sometimes I print it with name, birth date and death date, sometimes I add the locations for birth and death.  I color code the tree for male and female.

Aside from the choice of publishing the family tree, you can also publish reports. The output for reports also gives a choice of different options and what information to include.  I find the reports useful when I am gathering information from other people and want an informational printout to work from.    There is also a report feature to show relationships -  if you put in someone's name, it will list everyone on the tree and their relationship to the individual - i.e. first cousin once removed, etc.

The program will handle a number of separate trees and there are other nice options for publications.  For example, for a close Friend's 80th birthday, i got the family information from his cousin.  The friend has been involved in Bonsai growing for many years. Using the info from his cousin,  I produced a family tree, in color, with a Bonsai Tree in the background that I was able to frame. 

As much as I noted above, I know that I have not used all of the features of Family Tree Maker and am always learning.  The program is regularly updated.

Hope this is of help to you.  Good luck!

Avivah R. Z. Pinski
near Philadelphia, USA . Researching: Zuchman in Sarnaki, Karczew, Warsaw Poland; Rubinsztejn in Sarnaki, Poland;
Reznik in Drohiczyn, Siemiatische, Poland; Sondak in Vitebsk, Belarus and Rehitza, Latvia; Aginsky and Slonimsky in Minsk;
Kopekin & Rifczes in Lemberg, Vienna, Polatsk, & Besonkovich; Familiant & Koifman in Bessarabia and Ukraine; Fehl in Mikulov, Vienna

Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Sherri Bobish


There is no notation on the girls' passenger manifest indicating that either of them ever applied for naturalization. 

Did their mother or father come to the U.S. before they turned 18?  I am not sure if they could have naturalized under a parent's papers at that time?

Something to think about.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Online Exhibition - Last Letters from the Holocaust: 1943 #holocaust #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen


Yad Vashem has collected thousands of personal letters that reveal the hardships of Jews surviving day by day during the Holocaust. A selection of this correspondence is featured in the third in a series of online exhibitions about last letters sent during the Shoah: “I Left Everyone at Home': Last Letters from 1943" (


These online exhibitions provide rare documentation of the stories of Holocaust victims through their manuscripts, photos, Pages of Testimony that were filled out in their memory, and excerpts of testimony from family members who survived.


This exhibition comprises ten last letters. Two of them were written by daughters to their parents. The girls were murdered, but the parents survived.


“The letters featured in this exhibition were sent from Ukraine, Bulgaria, Germany, Holland, Greece, Poland, France and Russia. They were written in different languages: German, Dutch, Yiddish, Ladino, Polish and French. One of them, a short missive, belongs to a distinct group among the letters housed in Yad Vashem's Archives: letters written on special International Red Cross forms that were sent from German-occupied territories. The residents of these areas could not use regular postal services to make contact with those in countries at war with Nazi Germany, such as Great Britain and its mandatory territory Eretz Israel. These letters only allowed for few words, and mostly one form of wording: "We are well," details of names, "We hope you are also okay," and suchlike. However, occasionally the Red Cross letters contained information on an upcoming deportation or other encrypted details, which only the recipients could understand.”



Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Town of ROSOW or REZOWO in Grodno gubernia #belarus

David Barrett

where is attachment of the writing?

Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

rv Kaplan

I think for many of us, it's too expensive to have full subscriptions for both MH and Ancestry.  I use MH, but agree with Vivian about the irritation caused by constant regurgitation of my own information and photographs, copied by other people, as 'new matches.'  I find that more and more researchers who have only the flimsiest connect to me are hoovering up my family tree and photographs and attaching to theirs.  Often it's on the basis eg that my relative is the brother-in-law of the sister-in-law of their ex-wife's babysitter.  Another frustration is when MH sends me 'new relatives' who turn out to be the relatives of someone who has married into my family, who I don't consider to be my relatives at all eg my cousin's wife's cousins or parents etc are not my relatives.

But I stick with MH for the moment.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 15:57, Vivian Kahn <vkahn@...> wrote:
The only benefit I've derived from a My Heritage subscription is the ability to connection with a few Israeli and European researchers who helped me to locate missing relatives in Europe. My Heritage is more popular with researchers from Israel (no surprise there) and some European researchers. The downside is being overwhelmed with matches from those who have clearly copied information from my tree and sloppy research.
Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
Researching families including:
BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ. Avas Ujvaros, Hungary/Orasu Nou, Romania
KAHAN/JOSIPOVITS/DUB, Sziget, Kabolacsarda, Nagyvarad, Hungary/Sighet, Ciarda, Oradea, Romania
KOHN/Zbegnyo/ Zbehnov, Tarnoka/Trnavka, Slovakia; Cleveland  LEFKOVITS/Kolbasa/Brezina, Slovakia
MOSKOVITS/Honkocz, Szobranc, Osztro, Kassa, Hungary/Chonkovce, Sobrance, Ostrov, Kosice, Slov., Nyiregyhaza, Hungary
ELOVITS/Hornya, Hungary/Horna, Slovakia
NEUMANN/Szeretva, Kereszt, Nagymihaly, Miskolc, Hung./Sobrance, Kristy, Stretavka, Michalovce, Slov. 
POLACSEK/Hunfalu, Hungary/Huncovce, Slovakia
SPITZ/Nikolsburg/Mikulov, Prosnitz/Prostejov, Moravia/Czech Republic; Kismarton/Eisenstadt, Hungary/Austria; Hunfalu,Hungary//Huncovce, Slovakia

Re: Town of ROSOW or REZOWO in Grodno gubernia #belarus

Sherri Bobish


Maybe this one?  It is 30 miles from Brest.

Rossosz, Poland
Alternate names: Rossosz [Pol], Rosash [Yid], Rossosh [Rus]


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)

Re: Searching Stein family from Hulon, Israel #israel

Sam G.

You are likely referring to the town of Holon, which is just south of Tel Aviv, where my family once lived. The business they operated would have been a specialized metal working shop, spelled "tool and die" in American English. 

#IGRA will likely be a primary source for you.
-Amnon Gronner, USA

Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

Chuck Weinstein

For those who will be attending the IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy, I am presenting a talk on "How to Choose a Family Tree Software".  I discuss the criteria to consider and review several of the popular packages on the market (including a freeware product). I do cover both Windows and Mac versions.

Chuck Weinstein

Re: Travel information sought for Rose FRIEDSON #usa

Sherri Bobish


New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

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