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Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Diane Jacobs
 

For naturalization petitions, there are originals on ancestry.com and familysearch.com .

Diane Jacobs



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From: Susan Goldsmith <jcwsmg@...>
Date: 7/29/20 4:41 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jewish Gen Digest <main@...>
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

I should know the answer to these two questions, but am floundering. 
 
1. Is there any way to see death certificates, not indexes, after 1948-49 for NYC and Brooklyn online.  I seek one for 1969 in Far Rockaway and one for 1981 in Brooklyn.
 
2. Is there any way to see naturalization records, not indexes,  in US District Court for the SD NY (NYC), US District Court for the ED NY (Brooklyn) , NYC Superior Court  and Kings County Court online?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Diane Jacobs
 

Check the 6 volume set Migration from the Russian Empire edited by Ira Glazier.
It lists all passengers by date of arrival,  ship and then lists passengers by name, age and occupation.  I believe it includes
1882 as Vol. 4 is 1888.

I found my great grandparents and grandfather original surname there in 1888 because I knew all their first names and the month of their arrival. 

Hope this helps.

Diane Jacobs
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From: Minnie Schreck <mmsandfriends@...>
Date: 7/29/20 4:50 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

hello, is there a way to find a list of ship names/manifests for arrivals of Yiddish speakers from Russia? My husband's great-grandfather, Israel Divac arrived in 1882 and the 1920 census for Philadelphia listed his spoken language as Yiddish and his origins from Russia. Minnie Schreck

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:58 PM Marsha Paiste <marsha.paiste@...> wrote:

Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Travel information sought for Rose FRIEDSON #usa

Bob Silverstein
 

Sherri, thank you for the suggestion.  Rose was not in that list.

EdrieAnne, thanks for the information.  Rose's story was that she won a cruise from her employer and chose to visit relatives in Cuba.

I will try Steve Morse and look for visas and cruise line passenger lists.


Ester Fanya Fomin family from Vitebsk, Belarus and then Riga, Latvia #belarus #latvia

saskiamarinascott@...
 

Hi everyone!
I'm new here and trying to find information about my great grandparents.
Ester Fanya Fomin was originally from Vitebsk, Belarus and then moved to Riga, Latvia. The only thing I know about her family connections so far is that her father was maybe called Aron or maybe Afoim, but I'm going off a ship manifest with terrible handwriting. 
Chaim (Hyman) Freidman was originally from Latvia I believe. His father is listed as Jeruchim on the ship manifest, and he's listed as joining his uncle Judel Crystal in New York. An Allix Crystal signed his naturalisation petition in California.
They both came to New York in 1913 and married there a week later, then Ester gave birth to her first child four months later so I believe they may have been married in RIga - or maybe they eloped after she fell pregnant! Scandals.

Any leads?
Saskia


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

manderlie@...
 

I agree and it has the option to go online IF you want to do so. I don't but others do. So they use the appropriate settings. 
Susan Diamond


Jewish Legion WW1 #canada

nsb@...
 

Looking for further information about my grandfather Harry Boyarsky who joined the 38th Royal Fusiliers in September 2018. Born in Lida nr Grodno he emigrated to Montreal after the war. 
Thanks
Nicholas Boyarsky


Re: Definition of family name #names #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

Hi Leah,

My great grand aunt Rebecca Plotnovosky from Raczki in Suwalki gubernia married Solomon Berkowitz Karobelnik from Kovno in Hull, UK in 1887. He dropped the Karobelnik as apparently it means a tinker, or travelling salesman and is derogatory, and he was known as Berkowitz. His children shortened the name to Birks - I am in contact with this family who are on MyHeritage.

In the course of my research, I found that Suwalki Karobelniks went to France, and there is a famous surgeon amongst their descendants who is on the internet.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Jill Whitehead
 

In terms of DNA results, MyHeritage, 23andme and FTDNA are all vastly superior to Ancestry (and less expensive) in that the other companies give you the size of each chromosome segment you share, which Ancestry does not, and so Ancestry customers need to upload their genetic information to other companies or to Gedmatch in order to be able to make comparisons.  This is very frustrating as 9 times out of 10 people will not do this as they have spent their money on Ancestry without knowing what they are getting. Being able to compare the size of chromosome segment lengths is very important if you have Jewish ancestry, to determine the closeness of your relationship and how far back in time this goes. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK.


Re: Post WWII relatives records in Brussels, Belgium - JAKUBOWICZ #general

Henny
 

Hello, I am doing some research on the same subject.
You might find some information at the following address:
http://www.arch.be/index.php?l=fr&m=en-pratique&r=nos-salles-de-lecture&d=agr

Best regards,
Henny


Re: Did Emperor Joseph's 1787 decree include a list of names? #austria-czech

Johann Hammer
 

Jim,

In 1787, Emperor Joseph II laid down by law that Jews, who at that time only bore first names and nicknames, had to take German surnames with immediate effect.
In addition, there was a list of 156 legally permitted first names in Austria.

Johann


Re: Records from 1807-1811 #romania #bessarabia #ukraine

luc.radu@...
 

The darker paragraph on top of a table reads -- "Dupa porunca  prea stralucitului feldmarsal... ci s-au fost dat  ca asupra ...urilor cetatilor si sa puie bir si sa implineasca s-au facut urmare poruncii si birnicii s-au socotot, s-au randuit poruncindu-se dregatorilor...

Obviously something about taxation. But no doubt about language -- Romanian (very archaic)

Luc Radu
Great Neck


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Helen Gardner
 

Even though I regularly trawl through other sites looking for new information, many times now My Heritage has sent me useful hints. The most exciting hint enabled me to discover that a branch I thought had perished in the holocaust actually all survived in different places, and enabled me to track most of them. Other hints have also led to discoveries I didn’t find anywhere else. So I think they’re worth their weight in solid gold.

Helen Gardner

helen@...

 

 

 


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Helen Gardner

ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw

AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN


US Secretary of State Releases Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today (JUST) Act Report to Congress #holocaust #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

On July 29, 2020, the US Department of State released its report to Congress on the Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today (JUST) of 2017 Act, which was adopted by Congress with broad, bipartisan support and signed into law by President Trump in May 2018.

 

The State Department called out Bosnia, Belarus, Ukraine and particularly Poland for not having acted on restitution claims. Croatia, Latvia and Russia were also taken to task in the report, which is likely to draw angry responses from the governments identified.

 

The JUST Act Report highlights the important actions taken by countries to provide restitution of or compensation for property confiscated during the Holocaust era or subsequently nationalized during the Communist era, consistent with commitments those countries undertook when they endorsed the Terezin Declaration at the conclusion of the Prague Holocaust Era Assets Conference in June 2009. The report also describes the vital work that countries are doing to commemorate the Holocaust, open archives, and promote Holocaust education in order to honor survivors and victims and to ensure such atrocities never happen again.

 

The Report details the critical work that remains to be done to provide a belated measure of justice to Holocaust survivors and their families, and to Jewish communities destroyed by the Holocaust. Given the advanced age of Holocaust survivors around the world – many of whom live in or near poverty – the need for action is urgent. All victims of the Nazi regime should be able to live out their remaining days in dignity.

 

The report may be read at: https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/

 

To read about the report see: https://apnews.com/837620e71380aa711e9094f8b8c84677

 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Comment about software, online vs local (MH vs Ancestry) #general

Dahn Cukier
 

Yesterday a mention was made that a person's information
was removed/lost from an online tree. This was in the Ancestry vs
MyHeritage thread.

I have written this in the past, documents should be
downloaded to your private computer. A judge can
decide that some item is "private" and it is then
removed from the online information.

If a judge one day decides that a site violates
personal privacy and needs to be removed, all the
data can be lost.

Has this happened? Not as far as I know with genealogy, BUT
it did happen to a site that shared songs and a court decided
it violated copy-rites, overnight the site closed down and
all and any songs stored on the site were lost.

As can be seen, I am advocate of offline information
storage. That includes offline backup to privately owned
flash-drives and external drives. These and CD or DVD have
their limitations also, be sure to verify at least once a year
that data can be retrieved and have more than one backup.


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

harold.love@...
 

I’ve never even seen a manifest on MH. 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

harold.love@...
 

I don’t have enough facts about my ancestors or even my original surname. It certainly was not Love in the Pale. So, the wide net that you seem to really dislike can be helpful to people with significant brick walls. 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

harold.love@...
 

The Israeli element drives me crazy. The app is always switching to Hebrew. 


Help with Russian translation of Records on ViewMate #translation

Arlene Glass
 

I need translation of the Russian records from Lomza Poland.  They are two marriage records and three death records.  The full translation is not needed. On most of the records I only need the date and place. They are all from the Kolaczek family. 
 
The links are below. Please respond using the ViewMate form.
 
Thank you so much for your help.
 
Arlene Glass
Atlanta Georgia
 
 (death record of Lejba Gerszk Kolaczek}
 
 (marriage of Szejna Feiga Kolacz and Szolim Joszk Kozikiewicz}
 
 (marriage of Juszk Kolacz and Etka Rywka Kolaczek)
 
(death of Peltyn Kolaczek)
  
(death of Chaim Berek Kolaczek)
 


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

mbekken@...
 

I use wikitree for my main tree. One of the problems I have with other sites, as previously mentioned, is that references are not required, so someone can repeat their family lore as if it were known to be true. For example, many trees will list one of my ancestors as an illegitimate daughter of King Christian IV. While her mother was indeed one of the king's many mistresses, I've seen no actual evidence that he was the father of her child. Yet it is often presented as fact. May be true, may not be!


JewishGen U.S. Research Division Launched #jgs-iajgs #usa

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

#USA

#jgs-iajgs

 

Introducing the newly-launched JewishGen U.S. Research Division - focusing on all time periods 1654 - present!

 

Collaborating with JOWBR, the Memorial Plaques Database Project, the Sephardic Research Division, and the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR), we want to partner with every U.S. based Jewish Genealogy Society and encourage the identification, digitization, and indexing of new projects from every city or region around the country.

 

Join us at the Virtual IAJGS Conference on Monday, August 10th at 2:45 pm EST for our first meeting where inaugural projects will be discussed, and your project ideas and volunteer commitment is encouraged and welcome.

 

It is suggested that every U.S. based Jewish Genealogy Society send a representative to this meeting and suggest a project that your volunteers can add from your city or geographic region. To identify records and potential projects, contact local Jewish historical societies or archives, synagogues, or search on Archivegrid.org and WorldCat.

 

I look forward to working with you to expand on JewishGen’s American records collection.

 

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt

Director, JewishGen U.S. Research Division

ekowitt@...

Based in Colorado