Sunday's presentation #events


Please include the details of Sunday's presentation by Rose Feldamn
Thank you, Malka Chosnek

Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine

Raylene Gurewich

Ellen, yes it's very frustrating. I hope somehow we can both find that missing branch. I see you are researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN. Funny, that is my paternal grandmother's mother's maiden name. She died giving birth to her 6th child in the Ukraine. Her first name was Hinda. The one I am missing is my paternal grandfather's mother.  
Raylene Gurewich 
Port Jefferson Station, NY

Re: Jewish soldier in Boer War #general

EdrieAnne Broughton

Since the Boer War was fought in South Africa, 1899-1902 you have a time frame for your search.  Since I doubt there was British Army recruitment in Lithuania, I would suppose that he immigrated to Britain before that.  You don't give grandmother's birth date, or the brother's...or what his name was in Lithuania.  With 20 years between siblings, there might have been siblings in between who passed down more complete information.  My advice would be to write out a more complete synopsis of what you know, with complete names and dates as you know them...even off-line, as if you were writing a story and you might answer some of your own questions and at least in the end you might better define what your question is.  
               EdrieAnne Broughton
               Vacaville, California 

Lipschitz-Cohen family of Chicago #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of Charles Lipshitz of chicago
who died there in 2017, father of Rabbi Leon M. Lipshitz, married
Sheri Linn Neiman, having four children and Deborah, married and later
divorced Harold Katz (parents of Yaakov Katz, an American-born Israeli
journalist and author and Editor-in-Chief of The Jerusalem Post since
2016, born in Chicago, in 1979, married, living in Jerusalem, having
four children).

Re: Naturalization Index card states "Missing Record"...lost cause? #records #usa


Ryan: has placed the digitized images on-line of the microfilmed  records from this series of naturalizations.  The film has 360 images. 87 of these consist of a single page with only a Missing Docket note and a name.    #147 (image 354) says: "Missing Dockets  Abraham Kaslik"     
I appears that the original records were damaged or lost  before the index cards were prepared, and before filming.  There must have been a listing in existence whereby the absence of a record could have been determined.

If you have access to I can help you find it yourself.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 7/30/2020 12:03 PM, Ryan Cramer via wrote:
I've found my 2nd great-grandfather (Abraham Kaslick)'s naturalization index card however in the certificate (attached photo) it states "missing record."  
Is this common?  What would be the reason for this record to be missing?
Are there other avenues to pursue where I can find this "missing record"?  Abraham Leib Kaslick was born in Odessa, Russia in May 1858.  According to various census records he arrived in the US between 1886-1889 and settled in East Boston.  Thx

Re: Post WWII relatives records in Brussels, Belgium - JAKUBOWICZ #general

JONES Etienne H.L.F.

response in your text

. . I have already contacted the mentioned archive in Brussels  . .  « Archives Générales du Rpyaume » or from which municipality ? – and I'm on a progress to reproduce a file regarding a family relative. Do you know if it can be sent by e-mail or just in hard copy ? I think it depends upon what you requested, perhaps they could both. 
In addition, I found on FamilySearch an immigration documents from Antwerpen, 1926, that with a careful guess I belive it also related to my family. What databases do you recommend for such documents ? Here Marcel did answer.

Kind regards,
Etienne JONES

How to find reference of dead people in France after 1970 -- a guideline #france #guidelines

David Choukroun

Dear all, 

Insee in France stands for "L’Institut national de la statistique et des études économiques"

They are collecting, from all the 35000 communes in France (not a typo 35x1000) the death act of the French citizens
this is not 100% completed -- as paper was used intensively in the 70"s and even 80's and those databases are updated monthly 
You have more than 25 Millions of records here

I wanted to share here "how to do" with an example 

There are various tools to collect the information -- one of them is 
(ok this is my favorite because I know the SW dev. -- you have plenty of them with various interfaces like :

I am looking at all the "Hirschfeld" dead in France from 1970

Just go to Advance search and type the wanted name (here Hirschfeld) - there is a gray framework to help about how to fill-in the fields -- they are ignored
(Georges Pompidou was a French President in  1969 :

You will have a collection of results with variants in orthograph etc... just narrow your research by adding a first name, a gender (becareful, mistakes can happen) etc...

A major function is about the Excel/CSV File as you can organize your filtering as wanted  (see in RED below)

What can you learn : a lot 

let see one record (the first one : HIRSCHFELD Marguerite)

You can lean not only the dead information (date, location city, act number ) on the left side ,  but also the BIRTH dates/location/act number etc.... on the RIGHT side

Those INSEE files are indexed by the major tools (e.g. Geneanet etc...) , but I find them very instructive while looking at siblings or even specific records where you do not know the exact dates/locations of one people

Hope that helps



note : if you do not find your wanted name : either this has not be added (there are holes), either ... the wanted person is dead BEFORE 1970 ... either the wanted person wa NOT FRENCH either... bad luck (= I saw some mistakes in Gender for example)
note2 : many thanks to the developers of MatchID  -- the online documentation is in French today , I will ask them to produce an Eng. version

Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general


My father in law came to New York as a stow away. He went to work for his brother but was turned in by the person whose job he took. He was sent back to Roumania. His future wife was sent to marry him, get pregnant and then he arrived about 1938 back in NY. Where would I find his deportation records for around 1935-37? Menacum Mendel (Max) Glazer or Glaser b. abt 1907.
Thank you
Beth Glaser
He stowed away with his friend Irving Hans who was also returned but from what I could find on him he was sent to Canada where he reentered with papers. Max chose to go
home as his mother was very sick. Free ticket I guess.

Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

Nina Tobias

I would like to extend my sincere thanks to the many who contacted me privately as well to those who posted here. Your suggestions are most appreciated.

Now all I have to do is find my great-grandmother "Rose"!


Nina Tobias
Scottsdale, Arizona

Researching: HOROWITZ (Iasi, Romania; Odessa)
                      SWARTZ (Iasi, Romania; Philadelphia; Chicago)
                      TOBIAS (Rymanow, Galicia; Chicago)
,                     VOROBYEV, GOLDMAN, VERB (Russia; Chicago)

Re: Weinstock from Hungary #general #hungary #slovakia

Moishe Miller

Hi Julia,
Typically, I do agree with your view. Even if "name is the same" applies to the spouse. 
IMO, what is the same:
What is not the same
  • his birth year on his marriage is 2 years later than both the census and death record
  • his birth location on his death record is different than both the marriage and census, 3 miles different
For me, especially as the death record is the only one Jonasz did not personally report, being dead, is the one leas likely to indicate it is a different person. 
I would add, a search on JewishGen for another Jonasz Weinstock married to a Roza Benjamin, does not produce any results. 
I am comfortable with the amount of evidence making it likely this is Jonasz's death place. What would really help is if I could locate his tombstone in one of the Oradae (Nagyvarad) cemeteries, and see that it has his father's name of Izak on it. 
Thank you for sharing your thoughts,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF# 3391
Moishe Miller

Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Eva Lawrence

The basic difference between  Ancestry and MH appears to be that Ancestry provides  vital records,and a search engine to locate them and then you attach these to your tree, The information on MH and its other site, Geni is user-generated, so there can be interesting family information and photos. On the other hand,  BMD information and relationships  can often be either wishful thinking or very vague, . MH consists of private sites, with a primary owner, while Geni, as someone pointed out, has only a single tree, a collaborative effort..  Geni now has people working hard to iron out   the discrepancies which are bound to occur.
Until quite recently, Ancestry concentrated far more on records than on personal trees and I think that that's what they do best.  In contrast they give  very imprecise information to users of their DNA tests compared to other companies,  relying on their large user-base to give them an advantage.   
,MH  has a lively community of people looking for ancestors in Poland, Russia and Eastern Europe generally. My current experience of Ancestry is confined to the UK, where they provide census records, parish records and directories but only indexes for civil BMD records (cheapest from the General Record Office). but FMP has  a much  better search engine for British records. 
In the past.Ancestry,com have not been  helpful for German ancestors, where there is no substitute for Famlysearch  microfilms,  many now online.. 
I'd always advise people to keep a personal tree, with images of original records on their  own computer, to avoid being tied for ever to one subscription site. Your research may move in an unexpected direction, your needs (and income) may change and  in any case it's worth trying several sites to see what they are offering.
Once you've registered, all the sites send you hints and marketing emails,. How useful they are depends on what stage you are in your research.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: How to use the Paris Census record -- a guideline #guidelines #france

David Choukroun

@ Richard Cooper

Dear Ric

You can find into those files :
  • Census for 1926, 1931, 1936 et 1946 (the last one is not online)  - I am not aware of previous censuses (names per names , street by street recorded into files)
  • addition for some children (assisted)  (1742–1924)
  • some military records (Seine department only) (1872-1940) 
If you are looking at Birth / Marriage/ Death acts, this is another story (independent from the Census files)
your period 1876 and 1882 shall be covered on line :


Re: How to use the Paris Census record -- a guideline #guidelines #france

David Choukroun

@  LarryBassist

unfortunately with the name only, it will be impossible (to my knowledge) to find the exact reference into those files
But they are other means: 
If you have the name, you can look into other databases (like the "Voter list" : : one address will be written here
you can also search for references in the Press -- most of the time there is also an address indication ( or



Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 09:19 AM, Barbara Mannlein wrote:
Dear Barbara, 

I am sorry for your recent loss

I was looking at various lists of people who were caught in France (via Drancy) : can this be the following ones ?

Weiser (Moses) born on July 11th, 1902 in Warsaw (Poland)                    died on September 30th, 1942 in Auschwitz (Poland).  
Weiser (Rosa)         born on the April 1st, 1894 in Budapest (Hungary)            died on August 29th, 1942 in Auschwitz (Poland)

I have no clue where is Buczacz mentioned -- can you please add more information ? 


Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine


I have a similar issue, Raylene:  my paternal grandmother (also from Ukraine) lost both of her parents when she was a child, and she did not know her mother's maiden name.  I have only a first name, Zisel.  I feel like I'm missing an entire branch of my family tree.



Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun

@ GayleCannon70

Here is the Decret Number of Henri Felman : 12208 x 36

For the similar request, please check Bernard Flam guidelines : 

1st step is to look at the "Journal officiel de la Republique Francaise" under (



Wood Street Shul Stein family in Chicago. #usa

Stuart Kaufer

My grandparents and my mother talked about walking to the Wood St Shul in Chicago from their home on Grand and Damen in Chicago.   Does anyone know the real name as it was always referred to as Wood St Shul?

Jewish soldier in Boer War #general


I have seen some clever approaches to difficult problems here, so I thought I'd give it a try:
My grandmother reported that her oldest brother (by about 20 years) left Lithuania to fight in the Boer War in the British army.  He didn't come home, but she did not report that he had been killed.

Some years ago, I contacted the local British consulate and explained that my great uncle had served in Her Majesty's army in the Boer War.  After explaining that I was referring to Queen Victoria rather than Elizabeth II, I was invited to go to London and work through their collection of index cards for the soldiers who had fought in that war.  Apparently, there are several million, which makes this a serious non-starter.  What's more, I know what his name was in Lithuania, but not what he might have been using in the army.
Any suggestions?
Yale Zussman

Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun

Hello Judi,

you can probably find them with the Birth civil acts of Paris here :

Start with the Decennale files to get their exact dates/reference : below are the range of years covered by those Decennale tables

Tables des naissances, mariages et décès (1860-1932), tables des mariages (1955-1974) et tables des décès (1955-1984)

Without the address (that gives you the "arrondissement"),  you will have to search into the 20 files of the 20 "arrondissement" of Paris

I did it for the #4 "arrondissment" and get a Richard H. 

only 19 other arrondissement to check :)  -- good luck !

Then to get the act itself (to check the parents, and the address), only the following periods are online

Actes de naissance (1860-1924), mariage (1860-1944) et décès (1860-1986)

Once you have them in the Decennale tables, and if they are outside of the previous ranges (i.e. 1929/1930) 
you can request the acts (but you need all the info) via :



Re: surnames Szczepanski or Mrozowska from Lviv, Poland #galicia #poland


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:29 PM, <ntc52@...> wrote:
Can anyone recognise the surnames Szczepanski  or Mrozowska from Lviv, Poland before 1940's.
These were my grandparents who were arrested in 1940 and disappeared. Maybe they were Roman Catholic or maybe Jewish (my DNA indicates this to be a possibility). I've tried many avenues already. Thank you

 There is a Rabbi Jeremy Szczepanski in Manchester NH. His story is interesting in that he was born and raised Catholic, chose to become Jewish and went on to become a conservative Rabbi.
Arthur Feinberg
Kalamazoo MI

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