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Re: Post WWII relatives records in Brussels, Belgium - JAKUBOWICZ #general

JONES Etienne H.L.F.
 

response in your text

. . I have already contacted the mentioned archive in Brussels  . .  « Archives Générales du Rpyaume » or from which municipality ? – and I'm on a progress to reproduce a file regarding a family relative. Do you know if it can be sent by e-mail or just in hard copy ? I think it depends upon what you requested, perhaps they could both. 
In addition, I found on FamilySearch an immigration documents from Antwerpen, 1926, that with a careful guess I belive it also related to my family. What databases do you recommend for such documents ? Here Marcel did answer.

Kind regards,
Etienne JONES


How to find reference of dead people in France after 1970 -- a guideline #france #guidelines

David Choukroun
 

Dear all, 

Insee in France stands for "L’Institut national de la statistique et des études économiques"

They are collecting, from all the 35000 communes in France (not a typo 35x1000) the death act of the French citizens
this is not 100% completed -- as paper was used intensively in the 70"s and even 80's and those databases are updated monthly 
You have more than 25 Millions of records here

I wanted to share here "how to do" with an example 

There are various tools to collect the information -- one of them is https://deces.matchid.io/search 
(ok this is my favorite because I know the SW dev. -- you have plenty of them with various interfaces like : https://arbre.app/insee/)

Exemple 
I am looking at all the "Hirschfeld" dead in France from 1970

Just go to Advance search and type the wanted name (here Hirschfeld) - there is a gray framework to help about how to fill-in the fields -- they are ignored
(Georges Pompidou was a French President in  1969 : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Pompidou)




You will have a collection of results with variants in orthograph etc... just narrow your research by adding a first name, a gender (becareful, mistakes can happen) etc...

A major function is about the Excel/CSV File as you can organize your filtering as wanted  (see in RED below)


What can you learn : a lot 

let see one record (the first one : HIRSCHFELD Marguerite)


You can lean not only the dead information (date, location city, act number ) on the left side ,  but also the BIRTH dates/location/act number etc.... on the RIGHT side

Those INSEE files are indexed by the major tools (e.g. Geneanet etc...) , but I find them very instructive while looking at siblings or even specific records where you do not know the exact dates/locations of one people

Hope that helps
Regards

David

david.choukroun@...
France

note : if you do not find your wanted name : either this has not be added (there are holes), either ... the wanted person is dead BEFORE 1970 ... either the wanted person wa NOT FRENCH either... bad luck (= I saw some mistakes in Gender for example)
note2 : many thanks to the developers of MatchID  -- the online documentation is in French today , I will ask them to produce an Eng. version




Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

bethglaser52@...
 

My father in law came to New York as a stow away. He went to work for his brother but was turned in by the person whose job he took. He was sent back to Roumania. His future wife was sent to marry him, get pregnant and then he arrived about 1938 back in NY. Where would I find his deportation records for around 1935-37? Menacum Mendel (Max) Glazer or Glaser b. abt 1907.
Thank you
Beth Glaser
He stowed away with his friend Irving Hans who was also returned but from what I could find on him he was sent to Canada where he reentered with papers. Max chose to go
home as his mother was very sick. Free ticket I guess.


Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

Nina Tobias
 

I would like to extend my sincere thanks to the many who contacted me privately as well to those who posted here. Your suggestions are most appreciated.

Now all I have to do is find my great-grandmother "Rose"!

Nina


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Nina Tobias
Scottsdale, Arizona

Researching: HOROWITZ (Iasi, Romania; Odessa)
                      SWARTZ (Iasi, Romania; Philadelphia; Chicago)
                      TOBIAS (Rymanow, Galicia; Chicago)
,                     VOROBYEV, GOLDMAN, VERB (Russia; Chicago)


Re: Weinstock from Hungary #general #hungary #slovakia

Moishe Miller
 

Hi Julia,
Typically, I do agree with your view. Even if "name is the same" applies to the spouse. 
 
IMO, what is the same:
What is not the same
  • his birth year on his marriage is 2 years later than both the census and death record
  • his birth location on his death record is different than both the marriage and census, 3 miles different
For me, especially as the death record is the only one Jonasz did not personally report, being dead, is the one leas likely to indicate it is a different person. 
 
I would add, a search on JewishGen for another Jonasz Weinstock married to a Roza Benjamin, does not produce any results. 
 
I am comfortable with the amount of evidence making it likely this is Jonasz's death place. What would really help is if I could locate his tombstone in one of the Oradae (Nagyvarad) cemeteries, and see that it has his father's name of Izak on it. 
 
Thank you for sharing your thoughts,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF# 3391
Moishe Miller


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Eva Lawrence
 

The basic difference between  Ancestry and MH appears to be that Ancestry provides  vital records,and a search engine to locate them and then you attach these to your tree, The information on MH and its other site, Geni is user-generated, so there can be interesting family information and photos. On the other hand,  BMD information and relationships  can often be either wishful thinking or very vague, . MH consists of private sites, with a primary owner, while Geni, as someone pointed out, has only a single tree, a collaborative effort..  Geni now has people working hard to iron out   the discrepancies which are bound to occur.
Until quite recently, Ancestry concentrated far more on records than on personal trees and I think that that's what they do best.  In contrast they give  very imprecise information to users of their DNA tests compared to other companies,  relying on their large user-base to give them an advantage.   
,MH  has a lively community of people looking for ancestors in Poland, Russia and Eastern Europe generally. My current experience of Ancestry is confined to the UK, where they provide census records, parish records and directories but only indexes for civil BMD records (cheapest from the General Record Office). but FMP has  a much  better search engine for British records. 
In the past.Ancestry,com have not been  helpful for German ancestors, where there is no substitute for Famlysearch  microfilms,  many now online.. 
I'd always advise people to keep a personal tree, with images of original records on their  own computer, to avoid being tied for ever to one subscription site. Your research may move in an unexpected direction, your needs (and income) may change and  in any case it's worth trying several sites to see what they are offering.
Once you've registered, all the sites send you hints and marketing emails,. How useful they are depends on what stage you are in your research.

.
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: How to use the Paris Census record -- a guideline #guidelines #france

David Choukroun
 

@ Richard Cooper

Dear Ric

You can find into those files :
  • Census for 1926, 1931, 1936 et 1946 (the last one is not online)  - I am not aware of previous censuses (names per names , street by street recorded into files)
  • addition for some children (assisted)  (1742–1924)
  • some military records (Seine department only) (1872-1940) 
If you are looking at Birth / Marriage/ Death acts, this is another story (independent from the Census files)
your period 1876 and 1882 shall be covered on line : http://archives.paris.fr/r/127/presentation-des-archives-numerisees/
 
Regards
David

david.choukroun@...
France


Re: How to use the Paris Census record -- a guideline #guidelines #france

David Choukroun
 

@  LarryBassist

unfortunately with the name only, it will be impossible (to my knowledge) to find the exact reference into those files
But they are other means: 
If you have the name, you can look into other databases (like the "Voter list" : http://archives.paris.fr/s/28/fichiers-des-electeurs/?) : one address will be written here
you can also search for references in the Press -- most of the time there is also an address indication (gallica.fr or retronews.fr)

Regards
David

david.choukroun@...
France


Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun
 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 09:19 AM, Barbara Mannlein wrote:
Weisser
Dear Barbara, 

I am sorry for your recent loss

I was looking at various lists of people who were caught in France (via Drancy) : can this be the following ones ?

Weiser (Moses) born on July 11th, 1902 in Warsaw (Poland)                    died on September 30th, 1942 in Auschwitz (Poland).  
Weiser (Rosa)         born on the April 1st, 1894 in Budapest (Hungary)            died on August 29th, 1942 in Auschwitz (Poland)

I have no clue where is Buczacz mentioned -- can you please add more information ? 
Regards
David

david.choukroun@...
France


Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine

Ellen
 

I have a similar issue, Raylene:  my paternal grandmother (also from Ukraine) lost both of her parents when she was a child, and she did not know her mother's maiden name.  I have only a first name, Zisel.  I feel like I'm missing an entire branch of my family tree.

Ellen


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Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun
 

@ GayleCannon70

Here is the Decret Number of Henri Felman : 12208 x 36



For the similar request, please check Bernard Flam guidelines : 

1st step is to look at the "Journal officiel de la Republique Francaise" under www.gallica.fr (https://gallica.bnf.fr/accueil/en/content/accueil-en?mode=desktop)

Regards
David

david.choukroun@...


Wood Street Shul Stein family in Chicago. #usa

Stuart Kaufer
 

My grandparents and my mother talked about walking to the Wood St Shul in Chicago from their home on Grand and Damen in Chicago.   Does anyone know the real name as it was always referred to as Wood St Shul?


Jewish soldier in Boer War #general

YaleZuss@...
 

I have seen some clever approaches to difficult problems here, so I thought I'd give it a try:
 
My grandmother reported that her oldest brother (by about 20 years) left Lithuania to fight in the Boer War in the British army.  He didn't come home, but she did not report that he had been killed.

Some years ago, I contacted the local British consulate and explained that my great uncle had served in Her Majesty's army in the Boer War.  After explaining that I was referring to Queen Victoria rather than Elizabeth II, I was invited to go to London and work through their collection of index cards for the soldiers who had fought in that war.  Apparently, there are several million, which makes this a serious non-starter.  What's more, I know what his name was in Lithuania, but not what he might have been using in the army.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Yale Zussman


Re: Research individuals in France #france

David Choukroun
 

Hello Judi,

you can probably find them with the Birth civil acts of Paris here : http://archives.paris.fr/r/124/etat-civil-de-paris/

Start with the Decennale files to get their exact dates/reference : below are the range of years covered by those Decennale tables

Tables des naissances, mariages et décès (1860-1932), tables des mariages (1955-1974) et tables des décès (1955-1984)

Without the address (that gives you the "arrondissement"),  you will have to search into the 20 files of the 20 "arrondissement" of Paris

I did it for the #4 "arrondissment" and get a Richard H. 


only 19 other arrondissement to check :)  -- good luck !



Then to get the act itself (to check the parents, and the address), only the following periods are online

Actes de naissance (1860-1924), mariage (1860-1944) et décès (1860-1986)

Once you have them in the Decennale tables, and if they are outside of the previous ranges (i.e. 1929/1930) 
you can request the acts (but you need all the info) via : https://www.paris.fr/pages/etat-civil-100

Regards
David 

david.choukoun@...


Re: surnames Szczepanski or Mrozowska from Lviv, Poland #galicia #poland

feinber2@...
 

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:29 PM, <ntc52@...> wrote:
Can anyone recognise the surnames Szczepanski  or Mrozowska from Lviv, Poland before 1940's.
These were my grandparents who were arrested in 1940 and disappeared. Maybe they were Roman Catholic or maybe Jewish (my DNA indicates this to be a possibility). I've tried many avenues already. Thank you

 There is a Rabbi Jeremy Szczepanski in Manchester NH. His story is interesting in that he was born and raised Catholic, chose to become Jewish and went on to become a conservative Rabbi.
Arthur Feinberg
Kalamazoo MI


Yiddish: Letter from David SPAIN to Hirsch Ephraim BLOCH [2 pages]#translation #yiddish

Shulamit
 

I would most appreciate if someone could either transcribe or translate the letter below.

With many thanks

Shulamit Spain, Scotland



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Isaac LAZAROFF-, USA/ England/Jerusalem-Begin. 20th cent., #israel #usa #unitedkingdom

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

In order to confirm family lore I am researching an individual by the
name of Isaac LAZAROFF ( spelling may be variant) who was supposedly
married to my great great great grandmother, a second marriage for
both,

This story was told to my second cousin who heard it from his
grandmother. According to my cousin , his grandmother said that
LAZAROFF was a wealthy, orthodox Londoner, who had some 10 children
from his first wife (in England) and came to Jerusalem to find a
shidduch (a new wife). Supposedly they lived in the Mea Shearim
neighborhood in Jerusalem. Then it was a very fancy area.

My guess is that this gentleman may have been an American rather than
British (or a Britisher who had lived in the States) as there are
several discrepancies (and no official records,) for the family
history of that period. What is pretty sure, but again no records,
that this maternal ancestress had lived for years in New Haven, Ct.
before coming (or returning) to Jerusalem.

Is the above Isaac (Yitzchak) LAZAROFF, familiar to anyone ?

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

June Genis
 

Thanks for this.  I have been unable to get the death certificate for my father who died in Dec 1949.  Most of the Vital Records retrieval data files seem to be labeled as before 1940 or after 1949.  I was beginning to think that 1949 had just been lost.  If this suit succeeds perhaps I will now be able to get it.

June
Hemet, CA


given name "Slawa"? #names #poland

Lee Jaffe
 

I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on the given name "Slawa."  In particular I'm wondering if it is a nickname for another name, say a Polish equivalent for a Jewish name. 

I'm researching my 3x great-grandmother Slawa Brodowicz Ludwinowska (b. 1800?, Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland), exploring any and all avenues to identify her parents.  We find many records for her under this name in JRI-Poland databases, most associated with births and marriages of her 9 children.  Three of these records identify a possible father, and these are contradictory.  I thought we might be able to expand our search options if we could identify other possible names she may have used and allow us to find a birth or marriage record with further information about her parents.

Red herrings: We know there is a town Slawa about 200 miles away, but we have no indication that's where the family originated (nor does it seem likely she'd be named for the town).  We also understand that the w would be pronounced as a v and that Slava is a common nickname in Eastern Europe and Russia, almost exclusively shortening masculine names (e.g. Stanislav).  One exception is a musician whose real given name is Anastasia.  There is also an "deviant" (her term)  artist called Slawa, but I cannot determine her actual name. 

Instead, we're hoping the wisdom of the list can help us identify a Polish-derivation of a Hebrew or Yiddish name (e.g. Yitzhak > Ick).  Perhaps members have family members called "Slawa" where it was a nickname for another name you can share with us.  

Thank you for your assistance,

Lee Jaffe
Sadye Stein < Ella Braun < Rywka Ludwinowka < Slawa Brodowicz?


Re: Researching meaning of surname from Ukraine #ukraine #names

abqsuttle@...
 

Thank you to those who responded privately. So far, there is no listing of Meschmar in the book and no Russian translation. I appreciate all the efforts!
Denise Suttle 
Abqsuttle@...

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