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Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid?
#records
dbpdallas@...
Susan,
It's been sometime since I've worked on my lines that came through New York City. If memory serves correctly, NYC buroughs' death certificates after 1949 are not available online. Certificates older than (50) years are considered public (genealogical) records and may be ordered from the Municipal Clerk's office, if you are a direct descendant, and require a notarized request. Records younger than (50) years are considered protected records, and are only available to immediate family members. Kind regards, David Passman Dallas, TX dbpdallas@... Researching: PASSMAN, GOLDBERG, SILVERMAN, FEIN; Minsk, Novyy Swezhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus Researching: OBERMAN, HOFFMAN, SCHNEIDERMAN; Ostrog, Volhynia
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Back and forth to Russia
#records
GaryPSU
Records show that my grandfather, Sender Levin, arrived at Ellis Island in 1911 and again in 1913. I am unable to find any information on his return trip to Russia. I have both Ancestry and My Heritage subscriptions.
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Susan Miller
Would appreciate help in finding the legal name for what I assume is a nickname, "Shil".
My grandfather seems to appear in the 1897 Russian Census, Rozhiv, Radomysl, Kiev Guberniya as "Shil". He was known to his children as Samuel/Shaul/Shevel. Thank you for any assistance. Susan Miller Philadelphia, PA DORMAN- Ziezmaria/Rumsiskes, Lithuania & Obukhiv/Kiev City, Kiev Guberniya, Ukraine PEKAR/BOROKOWSKI- Rozhiv Colona, Radomysl, Kiev Guberniya, Ukraine PRITZKER- Steponika(?), Ukraine BUKRINSKY- Kiev Guberniya(?) Ukraine
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Re: ProQuest
#ciechanow
#records
#poland
Mark Shapiro
The Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History in New York City has access to ProQuest. They may be willing to look up the obituary for you. See https://genealogy.cjh.org/hours for a link to the inquiry form.
Mark Shapiro New York, NY
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Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry
#general
Max Heffler
I finally have my pending records matches at MyHeritage down to 631, while the number of my pending hints to records at Ancestry is 23,254 -- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html
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Re: The Jews of Panevezys and Kupiskis, Lithuania.
#lithuania
Max Heffler
The JewishGen Yizkor Book Translation Project, https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/, has stores about these town. One book I coordinate, Lite (Lithuania), https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/lita/lita.html, has translated and untranslated chapters, Donations are welcome:
These are untranslated:
1. Rabbi Isaac of Panevczhys 2. The Kibutz of Panevezhys 3.
The Destruction of the Jews in the Ghetto of Shauliai and of the Adjacent Towns The First Massacres – The Tanneries – The Jews Forced into the Ghetto – The “Aktionen” – Aerodrome – The Hospital – The Public School – The “Werkstuben” (Workhouses) – The Reduction of the Ghetto Area – The Turf-Decree – August 20, 1942 – The List of the 27 – The Winter-Camps – Working Places Outside of the Ghetto – The Abolishing of the Currency System – Camps of 1943 – The Gallows – Reopening of the School – - The “Kasernierung” (Transfer to Barracks) – Children “Aktion” – The Rescued Children – Change in the Ghetto Administration – Camp A. B. A. – Evacuation from the Camps – Evacuation from the Ghetto of Shauliai – Foreign Camps of Panevezhys and Jonishkis – Extermination of the Jews of Tytuvenai – The Perishing Jews of Telshiai and Adjacent Alsedzhiai, Vevirzhenai, Varnel, Zharenai, Tverai, Luoke, Navarenai, Plunge, Plateliai, Rietava – Why No Renstance? – Our Annihilation and the Lithuanian Attitude.
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To the History of the Destruction of the Lithuanian Jewry Introductory – How the Jews Were Tortured to Death in Panevzhys – Atrocious Killings of the Jews in Mariampole – The Perishing of the Jews in Garleva, Pakonys, Veiveriai, Mavruchiai and Other Communities Near Kaunas – A Lithuanian Professor Repents.
These are translated:
1. From Pumpenai to Kaunas
Pumpenai – Pasvalys – Panevezhys – Keidan [Kedainiai] – In Janova [Jonuva] – in Shirvint [Shirvintai] – In Tavrig [Taurage] – In Kovno (Kaunas).
Social Activities – The Old Mode of Living – The Rabbi of Panevezhys – Maskilim and Revolutionaries – Deputy of the Duma (Parliament of Russia).
4. The Jewish Common Folk of Panevezhys 5. Panevezhys After the First World War 6. A Visit to Panevezhys in 1938 7.
Through Lithuania (Cities and Towns) Mariampole – Vilkavishkis by Berl London – Telshai – Raseiniai by N. Ben-Chaim – Utena – Jonuva by Peisach Janever – Taurage – Birzhai by I. R. – Kedainiai by Ben-Alexander – Mazheikiai by Josephus – Rokishkis by Yudel Gapanovitch – Plunge by N. Rill – Jurbarkas – Lazdijai by I Dan – Anykshchiai – Zarasai – Kupishkis – Prienai – Zhagare – Kudirkos-Naumiestis by Z. Tumpovsky – Pandelis – Seredzhius by G-n – Seta – Balbierishkis – Chekishkis by R. K. – Gelvonai – Pushalotas – Veliuona – Shiaulenai by Ben-Daniel – Onushkis by L. B. E. – Rudamynas by Daniel Riback – Kuliai – Taujenai by A. Walt.
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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 7:55 AM To: main@... Subject: [JewishGen.org] The Jews of Panevezys and Kupiskis, Lithuania. #lithuania
Does anyone know what happened to the majority of the Jews in these towns during WWll? -- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html
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ellar107@...
Thank you, Peggy
It is unfortunate that a lot of records were destroyed in Russia/Ukraine. What is the best way to search for birth/marriage/death records in Kiev and Vinnitsa? Ella Raber
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Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery
#general
Dena and Hadar Matmon
Mt. Lebanon and Mt.Sharon cemeteries in Delaware County are right across the street from each other. My parents are buried in Mt. Sharon, my husband's family is buried in Mt. Lebanon. There's generally someone in the office at both locations in the morning hours. I can try to get you phone numbers for both.
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Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals
Sally Bruckheimer
"I mark my schedule at the end of the trial so I can cancel it."
I do better than this. If I subscribe, I cancel the subscription as soon as it starts. I don't do auto renewals at all I renew if I want to, then immediately cancel again. The company will always notify you that the subscription is almost over. I do this for Virus Protection too, as you can get it cheaper elsewhere than the full price the company will charge. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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Thank you & seeking help with French research
#france
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
Firstly, I'd just like to say a very big thank you to the French experts Bernard Flam and David Choukroun who have been offering so many useful research tips and suggestions in the past couple of weeks to people researching their relatives in France. Reading your advice to others has helped me tremendously, and probably others too.
I do have a few questions that I hope you can help me with. I'd be very grateful for any assistance with the following: 1. I have a relative who died in Paris in 1988 and I have obtained his death record, but I don't know where he was buried. I have checked the Paris archives website and the cemetery records are online only until 1968. Is there a source where I could find out where he was buried, or would I have to write to each individual cemetery to ask? If so, which cemetery would be most likely? His name was Raphael Jacob BULWAR, d. 11 January 1988. His death certificate was issued from the 11th arrondissement. 2. I believe that my relative above, who was originally from Poland, was naturalized in Paris in the late 1940s-early 1950s. How can I find his naturalization documents? 3. To my excitement, I found the names of a couple of other relatives in a private family tree in Filae, but I don't have a subscription so I can't see the full information. The tree notes their deaths but I was unable to find them in the INSEE files. I have tried writing to the person in charge of the tree several times, but never receive an answer. Would it be possible for someone to look up the information on their deaths for me? Their names were Dora HAMANY or HAMANI nee BULWAR (b. in Paris in 1935) and her ex-husband Michel Meyer HAMANY/HAMANI. Thanking you once again very kindly in advance for any assistance, All the best, Miriam Bulwar David-Hay, Raanana, Israel. Professional writer, editor, proofreader, translator. Certified guide, Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum and Memorial.
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The Jews of Panevezys and Kupiskis, Lithuania.
#lithuania
gordberger@sympatico.ca
Does anyone know what happened to the majority of the Jews in these towns during WWll?
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peggyfreedman@...
This question is more complicated than it looks.
The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives. Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg. But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference. Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about). Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia. The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed. Peggy Mosinger Freedman
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Need help interpreting ship manifest
#records
vkreynin@...
I'm having a difficult time reading this script. I would appreciate your help in interpreting the writing. It's for Sitnisky Moschko (Morris) and his daughter.
Thank you for your help.
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Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts
#usa
Bob Silverstein
These families came to Fitchburg, Gardner, Athol, Worcester in western Massachusetts starting around 1907. The Friedson's moved on to Springfield and some of the Aisenberg's moved to Leomister. I know through DNA and family stories and pictures that the Friedson's and Aisenberg's were cousins. Samurin was an alternative name used in Pinsk and may or may not have been used here. We cannot find out how the families are related and would appreciate any and all help.
My second question is why did Jews settle in that area. Thanks for the help, Bob Silverstein bobsilverstein@...
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Re: Family tree data and Information in Istanbul, Turkey
#sephardic
Metin Delevi
Dear Mr. Kazes,
To use this application : a. you have to be a Turkish citizen with a Turkish id. no. b.you have to apply for an official password. In fact once you request, it gives a family tree ( a family tree which begins with mother & father and goes up). They translated and put on-line the ottoman census records up to the beginning of the 19th century. Metin Delevi Istanbul - Turkey
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Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery
#general
Kenneth Ryesky
As noted in the discussion thread (which seems to have been excluded from the particular JewishGen Discussion Group Digest installment), the relevant Mount Sharon Cemetery is in Springfield Township, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA, North America, Planet Earth, Solar System, Milky Way Galaxy.
The relevant Mt. Lebanon Cemetery is nearby in Collingdale, Delaware County, etc. (at least the office is in Collingdale; most of the land is located in Darby Township, Delaware County, etc.).
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
-- Ken Ryesky, Petach Tikva, Israel kenneth.ryesky@...
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Re: ProQuest
#ciechanow
#records
#poland
Bob Silverstein
If you cannot find anyone with Proquest, I can try on newspapers.com.
bobsilvestein@...
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Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals
Bob Silverstein
Two points. Every free trial I have seen requires a credit card. If I do take the teaser, I mark my schedule at the end of the trial so I can cancel it. I do not think what these websites do is bad but two-faced. On one hand, they are hoping you forget so they will ding you but then again, they offer you the convenience of starting the paid subscription. Nonetheless, the ethical thing to do is not to require a credit card up front but to pester you as the free trial ends.
Second point. Terms. The courts know that no one reads them, that they are written by and for the benefit of website, not the user, they are non-negotiable and they are coercive. You cannot use the site unless you accept its terms. The practice is just about universal. We certainly need reform for both practices. Caveat emptor!
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Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry
#general
Eva Lawrence
This is a really valid point. There is no need to be tied to one site or the other if you keep your own records on your computer. The difference between the sites has always been that MH offers primarily user-generated information, while Ancestry has provided a search engine based on indexed primary records, but now each of the sites is trying to enter the other's field.. Geni, too, consists of user-generated records, but they are moderated, unlike MH's, because they are (in theory) part of one single tree. Since it was acquired by MH, its benefits are gradually being withdrawn from non- subscribers.
I'd say that for someone starting out, Ancestry's record-based approach, while not as exciting would be a better discipline, but they seem to have abandoned it. Now their main advantage is their larger set of long-term subscribers and well-known name give a better chance of a DNA match.
It does depend on what you're looking for, and threads like this one are a real help.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
-- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK.
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Re: Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland
#poland
#russia
#translation
Dr.Josef ASH
marriage (and the registration)
On Feb 5/17, 1876 in Markushev settlement Groom: Elya GOLDZIKHER, single, 27 yo,, privat of the Taurus regimen # 131 on leave, who was born in Kurov settlement, son of Khaim and Sura-Khana nee GOLEVAYA, the GOLDZIKHER family Bride: Khaya Rifka NIRENSHTEIN, unmarried, 17 yo (the age is added on left side) who was born and resides wit her mother in Markushev, d/o the late Khilya and Khinda nee Taub thr NIRENSHTEJN family. no parents' ages Mazltov! Josef ASH, Israel
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