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Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Judi,

Within NYC, Southern District covers Manhattan & Bronx. 

Eastern District covers Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island.

But, you don't have to naturalize in the boro in which you live.  She may have filed papers near where she worked in the City.

You can get copies of her nat papers from NARA.
https://www.archives.gov/nyc/finding-aids/naturalization-holdings

It looks like Ancestry and FamilySearch only have SD index past 1944 or 1946, but not the actual records.

Based on her age when she arrived, if she did naturalize it would be after those years.

The nat papers will give her exact date of arrival, and probably contain a photo of her.  The only way to know if it's your Eliane is to see the papers.

Nat papers never list parents names.  If she was married or had children when she naturalized than it would list those names.

It's important to look at the names of the witnesses on the nat papers.  I've made many connections by doing that.

I don't recall who else is searching HIRSCHFELD, and with the town Strassburg.  Maybe they will see your post?

Glad the hurricane missed you.  It's coming up the East Coast towards us  now. 

Take care,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ
Re: Searching records in New Haven, Connecticut #records

Harriet Mayer
 

Check out online the New Haven Jewish Cemetery Database which covers cemeteries in the New Haven area.
Also on Ancestry see Connecticut Marriage Records, 1897-1968.

Harriet Mayer
New York NY
Re: Thank you & seeking help with French research #france

David Choukroun
 

Dear Miriam, 

Thanks for your kind words

About 1/ After 1969, you need to write to the Service central des cimetières, 71 rue des Rondeaux, 75020 PARIS  a letter (sorry in French I am afraid) asking them to locate the place (within 20 possible cemeteries)
The response time is about 1 month. I did it several times, it works.   I can help to push the request, just send me in private the name ( Raphael Jacob BULWAR, d. 11 January 1988), and all possible information.  They are sometimes asking a proof that the request is coming from the family.so I would need also to mention your link into the letter. Relative = Cousin ?   


About 2/ again follow Bernard Flam's guideline :)
For all the periods, you need to find the decree number as first step.
Most of them are on line , except the 1931 à 1948 period, for which a specific process applies
For this one, we need to ask the French National Archives to find the decree number for us (to my knowledge) 
I did a quick search, and I am afraid you fall into this 1931-1948 period.  To be verified

 About 3/ I am sorry, I do not have a filae registration. I hope somebody else will check for you
I had a quick look to the Insee files without success (but they are only valid for Post 1970 deaths)

Hope that helps, 

--
Regards,
David

david.choukroun@...
FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI
Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

GEDMatch, the site some genealogists utilize to match with others from different DNA testing sites has suffered a data breach. While people could opt-out to share their data with law enforcement it found over one million users who had opted not to help law enforcement had been forced to opt-in. GEDmatch changed its policy in May 2019 so that only users who explicitly opted to help law enforcement would show up in police searches. They found two back-to-back hacks which over rode the users settings.

 

According to the owner of GeDMatch owner, Verogen, the first breach occurred early on July 19. After shutting down the site, his team “covered up the vulnerability,” he said, and brought it back online, but only briefly. “On Monday we took the site down again because it was clear the hackers were trying again.”  The site remained down or a week.

 

The giveaway that the matches were not actual relatives was that their DNA was too good to be true, said Leah Larkin, a biologist who runs DNA Geek, a genealogical research company.


To read more see: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/01/technology/gedmatch-breach-privacy.html

 

Thank you to Teven Laxer, members IAJGS Public Records Access Committee for sharing the article with us.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 
Re: Back and forth to Russia #records

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"Surely the thread 'Back and forth to Russia' should be forwarded to all
the genealogy sites we've been evaluating, to show that there is
demand for passenger manifests for ships going eastward across the
Atlantic to be digitised and put online"

You can want them, but ships leaving the US didn't leave passenger lists. England might have arrivals in one or both directions, but you can't demand what doesn't exist - well, you can demand it, but that won't help.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
Translate English-English #translation

SKNR
 

Hi,
I would appreciate help in translating the text in the attached document.
I could not understand what was written.

Stav Kaynar
Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

Slava is related to Slav, the people of Eastern Europe today. There are lots of -slav names for men and women, and the names were common in Slavic areas. So Slava was a common name. The name is also related to 'slave', as the Romans enslaved the Slavs and took them back to Rome and other places.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ.
Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

JoAnne Goldberg
 

I am so happy to see this lawsuit. Ancestry does notify customers that
it will auto-renew their subscription way before it expires -- this
year, for me, it was five weeks in advance. They don't make it clear
that you will continue to have access to your account until the
expiration date, so I'd guess many people put it off and then forget,
and they don't send out another notice when they do renew.

Yes, they will remove the charge if you call them, but that's a hassle.
The 2018 California law that prevents most auto-renewals and requires
companies to let consumers cancel online should be extended to all states.

Since my subscription expired last spring, I have been using my
library's remote access subscription, and with all the money I am
saving, I am tempted to pony up for MyHeritage. I've never been
impressed by MH but some of your comments have motivated me to take a
closer look.
--
JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 
Experience with Romanian records #romania #records

Alicia Weiss
 

Greetings,

When doing a JewishGen search for my great-grandfather from Szecseny, Nograd megye, Hungary, I recently found a record of possible interest in the Hungarian Births.  The individual is listed as having been born in Szecseny, but registered in Arad (now in  Romania).  The record repository is Romanian National Archives and record set Synagogue Reg. 1.  
Can some kind soul experienced with Romanian records please advise if it is possible to view this record set online and if not, the best way to access it?

Many thanks

Alicia Weiss
Researching: WEISS/WEISZ Szecseny, Hungary; KUNDLER, Kaposmero/Kisvarda/Gyongyos/Budapest, Hungary; POLLAK, Kaposmero/Csurgo, Hungary;PRESSMAN/PRESEISEN, Kiev, Ukraine; GOLDFELD, Russia; Dufine/Dufan/Dufayn, Orgeev Moldova/ Tuchin Ukraine; MAUTHNER/MAUTNER, Szecseny, Hungary, HEMPEL/HAMPEL, Poland.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Lisa Liel
 

I'm aware of this, and you have a right to accept that at face value.  For the record, I do.  But I also know that there are a lot of Jews who would *not* be okay with that, and suggesting to Jews that they post their family trees on FamilySearch without letting them know as well the use that may be made of that information is unfair.  I don't know why anyone would want to keep that information from people.

Lisa


On 8/2/2020 9:53 PM, Barbara Mannlein wrote:

What do you mean, Lisa?

Are you worried about posthumous baptism? The purpose is to ensure that ancestors can join church members in the afterlife. Individual Mormons submit to the church the names of persons they wish to have baptized, then undergo baptism“by proxy.”  The LDS believe that the baptism must be accepted by the person baptized, so if you know that your ancestors would not accept being baptized, you have no concerns.  

    "Each individual has agency, or the right to choose. The validity of a baptism for the dead depends on the deceased person accepting it and choosing to accept and follow the Savior while residing in the spirit world. The names of deceased persons are not added to the membership records of the Church."

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Lisa Liel <lisa@...> wrote:
Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.
_._,_._,_
Build your family tree on Family Search's Family Tree site.  This LDS collaboartive tree site is totally free and claims it's the largest family tree and still growing.
James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA



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Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 


What do you mean, Lisa?

Are you worried about posthumous baptism? The purpose is to ensure that ancestors can join church members in the afterlife. Individual Mormons submit to the church the names of persons they wish to have baptized, then undergo baptism“by proxy.”  The LDS believe that the baptism must be accepted by the person baptized, so if you know that your ancestors would not accept being baptized, you have no concerns.  

    "Each individual has agency, or the right to choose. The validity of a baptism for the dead depends on the deceased person accepting it and choosing to accept and follow the Savior while residing in the spirit world. The names of deceased persons are not added to the membership records of the Church."

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


On Aug 2, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Lisa Liel <lisa@...> wrote:
Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.
_._,_._,_
Build your family tree on Family Search's Family Tree site.  This LDS collaboartive tree site is totally free and claims it's the largest family tree and still growing.
James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA
Re: Back and forth to Russia #records

Eva Lawrence
 

Surely the thread 'Back and forth to Russia' should be forwarded to all
the genealogy sites we've been evaluating, to show that there is
demand for passenger manifests for ships going eastward across the
Atlantic to be digitised and put online, and not only ships to Russia,
but to all the other European ports.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


.
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.
Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

malka_f1
 

I have two questions re the Russian Census 1897. 
 
1.  Unless someone tells me otherwise, can I assume that the Russian census 1897 includes that part of Poland known variously as 'The Kingdom of Poland', 'Russian Poland' and 'Congress of Poland' which was part of the 19th century Tsarist Russian Empire until 1918?
 
2.  If the answer is affirmative ie that Russian Poland/Congress Poland was part of the Russian Empire, where is the Census held and how do I access it?
 
My interest is in the town of Warka (Yiddish Vurke, Russian Варка). about 25 miles south east of Warsaw and I believe was part of the Warsaw administrative area.  
 
In anticipation of information, thank you.
Regards
Malka Flekier, London, UK
PS: I can read cyrillic.
 
Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

Stanley Diamond
 

 
In addition those listed below, the 1897 Russian Census survived for many towns in
the proximity of the city of  Łomża.  There are more than 14,000 entries in this source.   
 
These are searchable online using the https://jri-poland.org/ multi-function search system.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
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Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia
From: peggyfreedman@...
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 09:25:12 EDT
This question is more complicated than it looks.

The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives.

Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg.  But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference.

Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about).  Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia.

The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
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Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

LarryBassist@...
 

I received a lot of images of Kiev and Vinnitsia records from https://jewua.info/jewish-genealogy-search-at-ukraine/ 
I think you can sign up and do some basic searches for free. Then if you pay they will let you do searches that show more information for more money they will send you images and for additional fees send translations. However I think most of Kiev and Vinnitsia images are available for free from Alex Krakovsky's website: https://www.tkfgen.org/open_sources_ak_p01.html 
He just gave an excellent webinar for JewishGen. There he discussed his Wikipedia website: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE 
There you can click on translate to English if you have a modern browser. So it is much easier to use than the other one I gave.
Good luck,
Larry Bassist
Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa
 

Ella there is an entire wiki page posted by Alex Krakovsky for the 1897 census from the Kiev province at https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B8/%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E/384

Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division
Searching records in New Haven, Connecticut #records

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,
 
I am researching my husband's maternal family who immigrated to New Haven (and surrounding areas), Connecticut in the 1890s and remained for several generations.  Anyone have suggestions locating  older death, birth, marriage certificates, naturalization records, obituaries?   Many of his relatives are buried at  Congregation Bnai Jacob Cemetery. Is anyone going there by chance, who can take pictures?
 
His Great Grandfather was Israel Noah Halper  (born 1860s and died 1915) married to Rose Nee Mattes.    I believe he was the son of William and Hannah, who also lived in New Haven.  Trying to prove that as my first step.  
 
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thank you!
 
Shelly Levin
Northern California
Researching: 
 FEFFER, HALPER, WOLFER,
Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland

Madeleine Isenberg
 

From my collection of births in parts of Slovakia, somewhat south of Galicia, Slawa, written in Hebrew letters as either, סלאווא or סלאווע appears to have been a given "holy name"  for someone with the following secular names: Szeren, Sali, Charlotte (Lotti).  It was not a common name, occurring only 7 times out of my almost 6000 list of births.

Hope this helps a bit,
--
Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.
Re: Need help interpreting ship manifest #records

Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 08:37 AM, <vkreynin@...> wrote:
Sitnisky
I can only help you because I found the manifest elsewhere, the image you uploaded is illegible....
  1. Column 2 (Given Name) for the daughter: Chawe
  2. Column 6 (Calling or Occupation) again for the daughter: Milliner
  3. Column 11. Wife: Sule Sitnitzka [not sure of the given name] - this information refers to both Morris and Chawe - note the bracket in front of the text.; The father's name on the next line refers to the next passenger, it's Uscher Schucker.

Odeda
Re: Need help interpreting ship manifest #records

Susan&David
 

SS Kursk from Libau arrived NY March 16, 1914.   Ancestry.com image 79
They are passengers #20  and #21 on  the manifest, Group 13.   Daughter's name is Chawe (W is pronounced V ) She is a milliner.
Wife's name is Si?le (maybe Sisle)  Sitnitzka.      
The father's name in column 11 belongs to passenger #22, not to Chawe. Here father is Moschko

David Rosen
Boston, MA
 

On 8/2/2020 7:54 AM, vkreynin@... wrote:

I'm having a difficult time reading this script. I would appreciate your help in interpreting the writing. It's for Sitnisky Moschko (Morris) and his daughter.

  1. Column 2 (Given Name) for the daughter.
  2. Column 6 (Calling or Occupation) again for the daughter.
  3. Column 11. I cannot read the wife's and father's names.



Thank you for your help.

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