Housing Family Trees for FREE #general


There is a real trade-off in posting your tree on-line that goes well beyond whether LDS still engages in post-mortem baptisms:  Anything that goes on-line is hackable and whatever family relationships you post there are potentially in the public/hacker domain.  If your tree includes family secrets, or just identifies relationships that may enable another to gain access to other information about you or your relatives, you will have opened the door to all kinds of on-line mischief.  People should weigh those risks against the advantages of making your information available to others and having a place for your research to be preserved after your own departure.
--Yale Zussman

Vital Records Translation from Polish #translation

Walter Elias

Hello Everyone,
I've posted 2 vital records in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses and VM83559.
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


Re: Searching records in New Haven, Connecticut #records

Paul Chirlin

Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

" Mormons no longer baptise the deceased."

Mormons no longer baptize deceased Jews unless they are their ancestors. They baptize their ancestors and random others from records, but not Jewish records.

But since it is a wasted effort, why do we care? They are doing us a big service by providing us records and a free internet genealogy site. I know that some people are sensitive, but they aren't accomplishing anything by waving their hands over dead people's records.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts #usa


I agree with Ellen on both counts.  Last I checked, there is still a synagogue in Athol--maybe it has some records. The one in Gardner closed a few years ago.  These were and are both small towns.  You can check my synagogue chart on for more information.
Carol Isenberg Clingan

Re: Formal name for the nickname, SHIL #ukraine #names

Diane Jacobs

I have a very distant relative who was Chil
And I believe his name was Yechiel.

Diane Jacobs 

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Date: 8/2/20 10:38 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [] Formal name for the nickname, SHIL #ukraine #names

Would appreciate help in finding the legal name for what I assume is a nickname, "Shil".
My grandfather seems to appear in the 1897 Russian Census, Rozhiv, Radomysl, Kiev Guberniya as "Shil".
He was known to his children as Samuel/Shaul/Shevel. 

Thank you for any assistance.

Susan Miller
Philadelphia, PA

DORMAN- Ziezmaria/Rumsiskes, Lithuania & Obukhiv/Kiev City, Kiev Guberniya, Ukraine
PEKAR/BOROKOWSKI- Rozhiv Colona, Radomysl, Kiev Guberniya, Ukraine
PRITZKER- Steponika(?), Ukraine
BUKRINSKY- Kiev Guberniya(?)  Ukraine

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts #usa


<<These families came to Fitchburg, Gardner, Athol, Worcester in western Massachusetts starting around 1907.  The Friedson's moved on to Springfield and some of the Aisenberg's moved to Leomister...why did Jews settle in that area.>>


My guess would be industry.  These areas were all riverside industrial centers in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and they attracted many immigrants to work in the mills.   Gardner was the "furniture capital of New England."  Leominster was known for its comb industry (and later, plastics).  Fitchburg was on a rail line between Boston and Albany, and machine tools, clothing, and paper were all produced there.  Textiles and leather were among the goods made in Athol.  Immigrants probably managed or owned some of the factories, too. 

BTW, I wouldn't characterize these cities as being in western Massachusetts, but rather north-central Massachusetts.  

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick


Re: Polish translation of address in Radom #poland #translation


Thank you everyone for your help! I was able to learn that Kośna is a street name in Radom and still is a street there. And that the number is 10.

Andrew Cooke

Re: Partial solution found to transcribing audio or video memoirs / testimonies #translation


Thank you for the review and the tip, Peter!

Another cool way to do a project like this was posted by Dale Markowitz, a Google engineer, on her blog at:

She used artificial intelligence to index and search all the transcriptions and the images created in an archive of all her family videos (30 plus years worth!)
It requires more technical skills than I have, but it is pretty fascinating to think about. Maybe, someday . . . .

Peggy Mosinger Freedman

Liffmann, Leiffmann #names

Abraham Schijveschuurder <ams@...>

I try to find out if that family where Levyim. Who knows and may be even has kehilla registration documents.


Yehuda Berman

In 1925 my 21 year-old mother, Zelda (Zena) ECHTMAN, came from Odessa
(then Russia, now Ukraine) to her brother in Detroit (who spelled his
name ACHTMAN). She then worked for a year in New York, while living
with the family of an uncle named KAMINSKY, before returning to
Detroit. Kaminsky was her mother's maiden name. My mother lost touch
with the Kaminsky uncle(s?) in New York and I don't know their names
or where they lived in NYC. My mother tried searching for her cousins
when on a visit to New York some 40 years on. She found three pages of
Kaminskys in the Manhattan phone book alone and gave up.
There was also a Kaminsky uncle in Detroit but I never knew his first
name - he was always Uncle Kaminsky (it was a family joke - he was
born at the same time as his nephew, my mother's oldest brother). The
name Kaminsky itself is very common.
My mother's father's name, Echtman, is an unusual name in Russia,
according to Yad VaShem records but apparently more common in Poland.
Years ago I hired someone in Russia to find records. She found my
grandfather's death certificate, confirming what I had already heard
about when and how he died, plus that of someone else named Echtman
that I never heard of. She found no other records.
Basically I've run into brick walls in every direction.
Is there anyone else on JewishGen with a connection to these names and places?
Thank you,
Yehuda Berman
Efrat, Israel
Yehuda Berman

Re: Names of people buried in Timisoara, Romania, Cemetery #romania


In JOWBR, Banat, by clicking on the right on Full Burial Record, it says the date of death is 8 Jul 1983.
I am not sure how to get to the original record in the book for this recent of a date.
Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Bob Silverstein

If the company does not refund the renewal, you can protest it with your credit card.

Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia


In my browser it is not actually part of the page, but there is a Google Translate box in the upper right about 1 inch tall by about 2 inches wide that says: that has options for Ukrainian and English. It opens with Ukrainian highlighted above it, but you can click on English. It only shows up for me when I first click the link to the page to begin with. I am using Google Chrome browser.
Larry Bassist

Re: Let's Introduce Ourselves #bessarabia

Inna Vayner <innanes@...>

I came across Libedinsky family that lives in Argentina when I was working on someone's tree. They also have at least one part of the family that came from Odessa. Did you encounter Juniter/Yuniter surname in your research?

Re: Experience with Romanian records #romania #records


Please provide the name of the person and the dates involved. That will help see if these records are easily available or more difficult to find. Also, if you can post the original image of where you got the information that would be helpful.
Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA

Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Martyn Woolf

A number of years ago when I was Chairman of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain, we raised this subject with the Mormon Church here in the UK.  We received an absolute assurance that the Mormons no longer baptise the deceased.  I do hope that this is still the case.
For my part I find Family Search very useful.

Perhaps someone could now ask the Mormon Church whether the assurance they gave to us, still applies?

Martyn Woolf

Re: Thank you & seeking help with French research #france



What I found on Filae

Michel HAMANY, born 23 March 1925, Sefrou, Fès-Meknès, Maroc, death 15 May 1981 Paris France
Dora HAMANY-BULWARD, born 7 September 1935, Paris France, death 1990 Paris France
no INSEE records...

kind regards,
Pascale Hollande, Monnetier-Mornex, Haute-Savoie, France

Re: Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland #poland #russia #translation

Dan Oren

Dr. Ash (or anyone): Can you also kindly translate the name of the rabbi? (See attachment.)
Dan Oren
Woodbridge, Connecticut USA
(Searching for Kochn/Kohen from Markuszów)

Transcription of Father's Occupation on Birth Record #translation #poland

Yaron Wolfsthal

Dear Group,

I'd appreciate help with this birth record -

Specifically with regards to the text in

(1)  the yellow box (father's occupation )
(2)  the blue box (Name of Shamesh / Sandek)

Thank you! -Yaron

Thank you!

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