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"Rauschenbach" #slovakia #hungary

Hilary Osofsky
 

We're hoping to clarify a reference to  "Rauschenbach" [Hungary], in the 1899 New York passenger manifest of one of our Wolf family members. Some family information suggests that this referred to  Nizne Ruzbachy (earlier names include Unter-Rauschenbach), but Vysne Ruzbachy (earlier names include Ober-Rauschenbach).and Revuca (Grosz-Rauschenbach) are also possibilities.

Perhaps at that time Rauschenbach was understood to mean only one of those towns? RadixIndex does list the town of Rauschenbach, but this doesn't strike us as determinative since the name doesn't appear in either the JewishGen Gazeteer or cisarik.com. 

There are probably better sources; we would appreciate assistance in clarifying to which town Rauschenbach refers.


Hilary Stein Osofsky
Orinda, California

WOLF: Primarily in and near Huncovce, Nizne Ruabachy, Vysne Ruzbachy, Strazky, Sulín, Kral'ova Lehota, Jelsava, Banská Bystrica; Szatmar
NUERNBERGER: Primarily in and near Zalesie, Podolinec, Hagy, Liptovsky Hradok, Zilina, Kosice, Spisska Stara Ves, Stara Lubovna, Krizova Ves Hafka, Presov
 
 


MT. SHARON CEMETERY #usa

Carole Brewster
 

Thank you all for your responses to my question about Mt. Sharon (Delaware Co. Pa) Cemetery. I called directly today & they were very helpful. I spoke with Jack Livezey & he drove to the plot & I found out it was a family plot & 8 of my relatives are resting there. I was speechless. There are so many of you willing to help others..thank you
Carole Hoffman Brewster


Viewmate - US Naturalization Index care - what info on it? #records

Michele Lock
 

I found the following naturalization index card for my grandfather on Familysearch.org:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83502

What do the different numbers mean? There is a number in the 7015983 in the upper right corner, then a petition number of 195616 in the lower left, then an alien registration number also in the lower left. There is also a date in which 'the certificate was issued' of 4/8/1952.

Which, if any, of these numbers can I use to request his naturalization papers from the Genealogy service in the US Citizen and Immigration Services in DHS? Will I still need to have this Genealogy service do an Index search first? I often read on this discussion board that a person has the 'C' number or certificate number; is that any of the numbers on this index card?

It also looks like my grandfather Philip Leapman originally filed under his Yiddish nickname and surname Paska Leibman, then requested this name change in 1952. I don't know when he made the original petition/declaration.

And finally - this naturalization took place in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Has anyone had any luck finding the actual naturalization declarations/petitions online, for this district? On Familysearch.org, they only go up to 1930.

Thanks for any input you may all have.

Michele Lock
Alexandria, Va

Searching for Lock/Lak/Lack from Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky from Alytus, Suwalki, Lithuania
Leapman/Lipman/Leibman from Dotnuva, Lithuania
Lavine from Trenton, New Jersey, originally from Minsk Gubernia.


Gesher Galicia SIG Meeting - Wednesday, Aug. 12, at the IAJGS Conference #events #jgs-iajgs

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

The Gesher Galicia SIG will meet virtually at the upcoming IAJGS conference on

Wednesday, August 12
2:45 pm - 3:45 pm U.S. Eastern time

(11:45 am - 12:45 pm Pacific, 7:45 - 8:45 pm UK, 8:45 - 9:45 pm Central Europe, 9:45 -10:45 pm Israel, 4:45 - 5:45 am next day Australia)

Please join us to hear the latest news from Gesher Galicia -- new research projects, upcoming webinars, website changes, and more -- as well as tips on making the most of both our free resources and our member benefits.

The meeting is open to all; you do not have to be a paid conference attendee to join in. However, whether or not you’ve paid for the conference, you do need to register to attend this and other “Free Access Sessions.” Please read more below.

PAID CONFERENCE ATTENDEES:
Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website (https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2020/asc_login.cfm), sign in, and select “Update Your Info.” Then click “Edit” and page through your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.

FREE ACCESS ONLY:
If you have not registered for the conference and want to have access to SIG and BOF meetings and other free events, go to https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2020/registration_form.cfm and register for the Virtual Limited Access Conference. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.

If you have already registered for limited free access but did not select the meetings you want to attend, please go back and edit your registration to include your choices. Follow through to the end of the registration to save them.

We hope that you will be able to attend the Gesher Galicia meeting.

For more information about the conference see www.iajgs2020.org or www.facebook.com/groups/IAJGS . Registration questions/problems? Contact registration@... .

For information about Gesher Galicia, see geshergalicia.org or contact info@... .
 
 
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Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Jeff at SG
 

Besides the religious aspects, there are other problematic aspects. One of them is simple implied misinformation. I remember looking up some prominent Jewish individuals and to my surprise retrieved their 'baptismal dates'. To me at the time (and to unsophisticated future researchers 100 years from now) the logical assumption was that they must have converted! I'm sure there is some clarification somewhere and experts know better but to the casual observer, the logical conclusion is that the person had converted and did not die a Jew. Definitely misinformation. 

I know the LDS has changed its policies about such baptisms as a result of the resulting angry outcry. They can just as easily change it again. But the recorded date of 'baptism' remains forever in the records. 

In my opinion it is insulting and a form of identity theft. These involuntary baptisms need to all be expunged from the records.

Jeff Malka
Too many names to list.


Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

jbonline1111@...
 

I would not and do not house my family tree online anywhere, because I believe in privacy.  The deceased may not care but the living do.  I prefer to house everything on my own computer and backup. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Jewish Religious Personnel in the Russian Empire, 1853-1854 #general #russia

Herbert Lazerow
 

If you have the pages, you have what exists. Translation is probably not necessary, as Professor Deych organized the work in tabular form. You can use an online translator for the position your ancestor held.  What is available from the book that is not in the index is the name of the congregation, the number of members (presumably males at least 13 years old) and, for a small minority of the people listed, when they assumed the office and their annual compensation.
    Professor Deych indicated that for some listings there is additional information available in the archives in St. Petersburg, but did not mention what that additional information might be.
Bert
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Herbert Lazerow


Seeking descendants of Masya Ginda Rakovschik from Minsk #belarus

sacredsisters1977@...
 

Hi All
I am trying to trace any descendants of Maysa Ginda Rakovschik. She was born in Minsk Belarus about 1889 to Movsha-Aron and Brucha. According to jewishgen.org, she married Aron Elterman/Alterman. On yadvashem there is a POT submitted in 1998 by a Genya Elterman. I would like help contacting her or her children if she had passed. Genya was born about 1918. Her mother would have been a great aunt to me.

Sarah Greenberg (USA)
sacredsisters1977@...


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

bethglaser52@...
 

Does or has anyone found either deportation records or departure records from NY to Europe around 1935 plus or minus but before 1938?


Need help with marriage license #poland #records

Jerry2000K@...
 

Need help please, been trying to find marriage license for
Gerszon George Klejman Kleinman
Dowira Dora  Ber Barr
marriage was in Warsaw on Jan. 1 1916
Thank you in advance
Gerald Kleinman / Florida


Re: Philadelphia: Sautter #usa

Sherri Bobish
 


Peter,

Some info from records on Ancestry, other info from family tree on Ancestry.

Friedrich Sautter, son of Adam & Pauline.
born Dec. 2, 1890 Philadelphia.
baptized Oct. 10, 1891.
married Pauline.
daughter Frieda born May 9, 1919 in Germany, d. 1996 in Germany
Frieda married Alexander Jerger, d. 1999 Germany

Looks like Frieda & Alexander had a child that is still living (marked private on tree on Ancestry.)

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Lee Jaffe
 

I think that each site offers different strengths and weaknesses and, if you are have to choose between the two, you will be making a compromise.

First, let me point out that all of these sites have two basic functions which overlap some.  One is tree maintenance, recording your family finds and the information about its members.  Some have better tools than others.  For instance, Ancestry won't let you upload video and audio recordings.  But My Heritage has very nice tools  for identifying people in photos.  

The second major function is research resources.  Most of the comments so far have referred to what resources are available from the different services.

There is a third component, which is a hybrid of the other two, the services where they trawl their databases to find matches or hints.  Some people find these helpful but many consider them distracting.

I started with a MyHeritage account and grew frustrated with all the "come ons" to up my membership status, only to discover they apply only tree by tree, rather than across my membership.  I'd get match notices that I wasn't allowed to see.  My original reason for joining was tied to another tree. When that became dormant, I jumped to Ancestry because of their better terms.  But I do miss some of MyHeritage's tree management tools.

Geni seems to be a completely different animal and I'm not sure what I think of that yet.

Lee Jaffe


Jews in Mohacs #hungary

marianne.hoyd@...
 

Any information about Jews in Mohacs would be very very much appreciated. Some of the family names are: Alt, Hajduska, Fischer. Thanks.


Re: Avigdor family of Mexico City #latinamerica

alejandro@...
 

Hi Neil:
This are the phone numbers of Zvi, as follows:
Home 1 718 997 6742
 Cel 1 347 398 1266
Lab 1 718 483 1306

Please send him my regards
Alex


Re: Jewish Legion WW1 #canada

Marsha
 

The website "British Jews in the First World war We were there too" is worth a look https://www.jewsfww.uk/

The Pattinson book is available to view online https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Patterson,%20J.%20H.%20(John%20Henry),%201867-1947

Marsha Rosenberg
London


Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

JPmiaou@...
 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:08 AM, Sally Bruckheimer wrote:
They baptize their ancestors and random others from records, but not Jewish
records.
As far as I know, the LDS church has discontinued all extraction-program-based "temple work" (or whatever you want to call it). Mormons can no longer submit random names from an index; they have to show that they're related to the people whose names they're submitting in order to proceed with the process. (And it is my impression that for relatively-recent people, they have to show that they're either the closest living relative, or that they have permission from the closest relatives.)

I find the concept of the Almighty as Supreme Bureaucrat ... amusing. But whatever the theology, the result is the availability of a vast repository of genealogical records that I could otherwise never hope to access, plus a free collaborative tree that links easily with said records. I am grateful for them, and make extensive use of both, and try to return some of the favor by indexing and working on FS's places database.

And if putting someone's profile on FamilySearch's Family Tree should result in some random LDS member submitting that information for some religious rite or other, I don't actually care. I don't believe in those rites, my deceased relatives never heard of those rites, and chances are that they would not have believed in them if they had, so it's all meaningless and really not worth any worry.

But if despite the logic you still object to Mormons, there's WikiTree. The interface is not particularly user-friendly (familiarity with markdown/coding a definite plus), the handling of names is Anglo-centric and illogical, and proper citing of one's sources gets tediously convoluted, but there's an active community of helpful users, there are all sorts of tools available to display and analyze data, and the developers are constantly working on improvements.

Julia
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Viewmate Translation / Interpretation Request - Russian / Hebrew #translation

Philip
 

Dear All,

I've posted the following two records on ViewMate :-

1. Marriage Record at address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83491
2. Transcription from Latvia Marriages and Divorces Database at address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM83492

The transcription [2] records the 1866 marriage of my great-grandparents Yosif WAGENHEIM (shown in the transcript as "?...GENHEIN") and Sheina GITLESOHN, and points to the source record [1].  The source record [1] shows two marriages, of which 'mine' is the upper one, but is quite an indistinct image.  Can anyone supply me with an English translation of this source record, including the printed column headings?  Ideally I'm seeking someone with good eyesight (or clever software!) to interpret the Russian on the left, or even the Hebrew on the right, for me.  I would love to understand how elements of the transcription map on to the elements of the source record - for example I can just about make out the name Lerenblat, the officiating Rabbi, split across two lines in the fourth column, but cannot clearly see my ancestor's names in the later columns.

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Many thanks for your help!

Philip Tepper, Manchester UK.

 


Re: Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland #poland #russia #translation

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Yankel KOKHN

"kh" I use to trnsscribe the russian letter "X" (it's not "ex"!). Russian has no "h" and it puts "g"
or, sometimes, "kh" instead
In this name usually they whould spell KOGaN.


Silverman Family of Providence #usa

psilver3@...
 

My grandfather, John (Yaakov) Silverman arrived in Providence from Lemberg (Lviv) in 1911.  He stayed with his aunt and cousins, one also named John.
He joined the Army and chased Pancho Villa with General Pershing.  My grandfather later had a junk yard on Allens Avenue.
I can remember as a child going to Silverman family reunions, but over the years, we lost touch with the cousins.  
I have a family tree dating back to around 1800 in Husiatyn, Galicia (now Ukraine).  However, it stops with my grandfather's generation. 

I'm looking for lost relatives.

P. Silver
psilver3@... 


Re: Experience with Romanian records #romania #records

JPmiaou@...
 

Szécsény could also refer to Temesszécsény (earlier Szecsány, now Seceani, Romania), which is less than 15 miles south of Arad.

Julia
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