Re: Online trees #general

Sarah L Meyer

I have also had my tree online for about 13 years,  I have a tree on Ancestry and MyHeritage as well as my own site   I did change hosts about two years ago for my site, and also went to TNG rather than having lots of small files that I had to upload.  I am happy with my Ancestry tree and with my own.  I discovered that I really needed to make my MyHeritage tree private due to privacy issues.  MyHeritage does a good job with privacy until you invite someone to your site.  At that point they can see lots of details on living people - if the details are there.  My original Gedcom came from software that did not automatically suppress details on living people, so instead of making others site members I send them to the sarahsgenies site.   I have met cousins - and gotten a tremendous amount of information because I had an online tree that was searchable by google.  On my husband's side, his third cousin in Denmark, sent us his whole family there - and we have visited on Skype because of that online tree.
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Why would my Grandfather travel under his older brother's name? #names

Mashiach L. Bjorklund

There are a number of reasons why a person would travel under an older siblings name, here's a few:
1. Military conscription - the eldest son could sometimes be exempted for economic reasons from conscription. This would allow them to travel (or buy a ship's ticket to travel) where as a younger sibling who was facing or soon to face conscription would not be allowed to travel.
2. The ship's ticket was purchased under another name - once a ticket was purchased it could not be transferred to another person. But that did not prevent another person from assuming the ticket holders identity and using their ticket.
3. Age restrictions - This varied widely, but if a person was too young to travel unaccompanied they might have used an older siblings identity to purchase a ticket. Especially if there was no one at their destination to receive them upon their arrival. In 1912, a person 14 years or younger would have been considered a minor and could not travel without a designated guardian to accompany them. If the family had the economic means, they could hire a guardian (like a nanny), but if they lacked financial resources the minor would not be allowed to travel, or even purchase a ticket to travel. Keep in mind laws were not the only restriction. Steamship companies had their own rules as they were financially responsible for returning an immigrant if they were rejected at their port of entry.

Documents? That depends upon their country of origin, countries they traveled through, and ports enroute, etc. In very general terms, there was the ticket (which was also their receipt for purchase), that stayed with the person. There was something often referred to as a docket. That came from the steamship's ticket office and was used to add the person to the ship's manifest. This was not a legal requirement but used internally by the steamship line for passenger management. Most of those were disposed of after the ship sailed. Next up was the passenger manifest, created for the ship and matched to the passengers boarding, those were collected at the port of entry upon arrival. Next is the passenger arrival records, available through the National Archives and online via Ancestry and other genealogical database companies.

Keep in mind this is the simplest version of what's available. There are literately hundreds of books are written on this subject. Also go to They have some good tutorials on the subject. There are even some good YouTube videos out there as well.

Looking for descendants of Rose HAMMER and possibly Joseph BODNER #galicia #usa

Raylene Gurewich

I'm looking for the children/grandchildren of Rose HAMMER born in Lezajsk, Austria in 1899. She came to New York in 1913, staying in New York until 1933-1934 and then moved to Los Angeles, California. She had at least one child (my mother, born 1929) with Joseph BODNER in New York and another in California in 1942. According to the bc of the child born in California, she had a total of 4 children and I am looking for descendants of the other 2 children. One most likely a female named Betty. Rose passed away in 1967. Thanks in advance.   
Raylene Gurewich , Port Jefferson Station, NY

KATZOFF family-Brisk/Brest-litovsk, #russia #israel #latinamerica

Yonatan Ben-Ari

I have a chart detailing a group of KATZOFF siblings from
Brisk/Brest-Litovsk. I know that we are somehow connected but am
trying to research the exact connection. My grandfather, who left
Brisk/B.L. at the turn of the century and came to NYC was Reuven
Shraga (Philip) KATZOFF son of Reuven Shraga (born posthumously).

The siblings in the chart are:

Yosef-Poland, Argentina, Israel
Chaim-Poland, Argentina
Moshe-Poland, Russia,Israel
Shulamit-Poland, Argentina
maya Miriam-Poland, Argentina

There is another brother Manny who came to the USA but as , according
to the information i have, his father was also Menachem, I am not sure
if he was born also after his father's death, Manny is not Menachem or
some other mistake in the chart.

Another probable relative was an Arieh Leib KETZEV,, head of the
Israel diamond industry many years ago who, if I understood correctly
when I spoke to him many years ago was a holocaust survivor. His son
and grandson are lawyers in Israel.


Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Yosef KATZOFF-Kibbutz Bet Keshet, Israel #israel

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Looking for children of my late father's cousin Yosef KATZOFF who
lived many years ago on Kibbutz Bet Keshet. He had 2-3 children who I
understand left the Kibbutz years ago. They would probably today in
their 70-80s. I do not know their first names. Their names may be
spelled different: KATZAV, KETZEV, etc.


Yoni Ben Ari, Jerusalem

Sperbers Galicia #galicia

Hannah Sperber

Looking for Philip, Chaim, Halina, Henry, Irene and Nathan Sperber from Galicia

Hannah Sperber

Re: Korshak executed in Rovno #russia

Harold Love

Do you mean Kovno or Rivne?

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Adam Cherson

According to Gedmatch, they do not keep anyone's raw data on their servers so there is no possibility of the hack having accessed anyone's raw data.

Re: Burial Society Washington Cemetery - Bnai Menasse or Menasche #usa

Alan Reische

Thanks Moishe. I've used the db, do come up with linkage of Nachlas Zwei to Mt. Hebron and Mt. Judah, with no further detail. Nothing comes up there either for Menasse or Menasche. I do come up with the following from JGSNY-defunct synagogues list. It is derived from a WPA project in 1939, listing houses of worship in Manhattan. I have not yet tried to access any background data JGSNY may have, the original is somewhere in the NYC archives and I am quite a distance from NYC. Is this meaningful to any Genners?

W-34 842 1895 Chevra Nachlath Zwi Linath Hazedek Bnai Menashe Chevra Nachles Zwi Linath Hazedek Bnai Menasheh (Congregation Nachlas Zwie Anshe Ungarn) (Society, Inheritance of Zwi, Visitors of the Sick, Sons of Menashe
  842A 1897-1913 Chevra Linath Hazedek Bnai Menashe Society, Visitors of the Sick, Sons of Menashe

Re: Directories for New Haven and Hartford, Ct.-1890-1915 #usa #general


The city directories are on-line at

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 8/5/2020 4:24 AM, Yonatan Ben-Ari wrote:
Are there New Haven directories on-line for the years 1890-1915 and
Hartford 1928-1930 ?

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

Reuven Mohr

Galicia (Eastern Europe)

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Galicia (/ɡəˈlɪʃ(i)ə/;[1] Ukrainian and RusynГаличинаHalyčynaPolishGalicjaCzech and SlovakHaličGermanGalizienHungarianGalícia/Kaliz/Gácsország/HalicsRomanianGaliția/HaliciRussianГалицияGalitsiyaYiddishגאַליציע‎ Galitsiye) is a historical and geographic region between Central and Eastern Europe.[2][3][4] It was once the small Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia and later a crown land of Austria-Hungary, the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, which straddled the modern-day border between Poland and Ukraine. The area, named after the medieval city of Halych,[5][6][7] was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[8][9] In 1253 Prince Daniel of Galicia was crowned the King of Rus (LatinRex Rusiae) or King of Ruthenia following the Mongol invasion in Ruthenia (Kievan Rus). In 1352 the Kingdom of Poland annexed the Kingdom of Galicia and Volhynia as the Ruthenian Voivodeship (LatinPalatinatus Russiae).

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general




What I recall from my childhood in Israel is –

A female from Galicia was referred to as Galiciana

A male from Galicia was referred to as Galicianer

Shalom, Malka cChosnek


Re: Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts #usa

Bob Silverstein

Hi David,

I could not find the families.  That shul's records do not seem to go back to the 20's.  Thanks for the suggestion.


Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

Reuven Mohr

wikipedia says that the name comes from the town of Halytsch on the river Dnjester

Re: Burial Society Washington Cemetery - Bnai Menasse or Menasche #usa

Alan Reische

Thanks Sherry.I forgot to mention that it was Ridge Street, Manhattan, not Ridge Avenue, Philadelphia  Apparently the Incorporation Papers data is not accessible remotely, and Pandemic aside, I'm a long way away. There are references to this synagogue in a number of places and locations in NYC, but unfortunately the indexed data doesn't associate it with a specific shtetl or region. The trail leads to Sinai Chapels as current administrator, which of course is still active. I'm waiting for a response from current management.

Hope all is well/Alan

Bialystok Area Research Group Meeting at the Virtual IAJGS Conference #announcements #events #jgs-iajgs #poland

Mark Halpern

The JewishGen Bialystok Area Research Group (BialyGen) will meet virtually on Thursday, August 13 from 2:45 pm - 3:45 pm Eastern time in US. (11:45 am Pacific US, 7:45pm UK, 8:45 pm Central Europe, 9:45 pm Israel, and 4:45 am Friday in Australia) as part of the IAJGS 2020 Virtual Conference

This meeting is open to everyone. The IAJGS has generously allowed this meeting to be offered without paying a registration fee. Read on for instructions on how to register for this meeting.


BialyGen covers 28 towns that are now in Poland, but during the 19th and early 20th centuries were in or adjacent to Russia’s Grodno Gubernia. For a list of towns, see


The meeting will be an informal session with discussion of current projects for BialyGen towns, volunteer opportunities, and your questions and comments.


Whether you have already registered for the Conference as a paid attendee or desiring free access only, you will need to register to attend this session.

You do not need to have a webcam or microphone on your computer. There will be a text chat option for your use. After you register and before the sessions start, you will receive further instructions about how to join the meeting.

For those who have paid to attend the entire Conference:

Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website, sign in, and select “Update Your Registration and Info.” Then click “Edit” and page through your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select your choices including “4004 - JewishGen BialyGen Regional Research Group,” then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save your choices.

For those who only want to attend FREE Conference offerings:

There is now a “Free Limited Access” option on the Registration Form that allows you to attend at no cost the IAJGS Annual Meeting & Awards, the IAJGS Leadership Seminars, the JewishGen Annual Meeting, and—best of all—the Special Interest Group (SIG) and Birds-of-a-Feather (BOF) meetings. You must register and tell us who you are (that keeps us all safe). It also gives you the amazing opportunity to share with other conference attendees up to 8 surnames and 8 ancestral towns in our conference Family Finder.  

To register for the free events, go to, complete the entire registration form and at the Conference Registration Fees section, select Virtual Limited Access Conference. When you select your program choices, select “4004 - JewishGen BialyGen Regional Research Group.” Be sure to continue to the end of the forms to save your registration

If you have already registered for limited free access but did not select the BialyGen meeting, go back and edit your registration to include this choice. Follow through to the end of the registration to save the new choices.

For registration questions/problems, contact registration@....

We hope you will be able to attend the BialyGen meeting and look forward to your participation. If you have any questions about BialyGen or the content of the meeting, please contact me directly at mark@....

Mark Halpern

BialyGen Coordinator

Slovak Marriage Record - Groom's Occupation #slovakia #translation

Yaron Wolfsthal

Dear Group,

I'd appreciate help in transcribing the details of the groom in this Slovak marriage record from 1923:

The name is Josef (born 1898).

But what is the surname? What is the Occupation? Any more info? and what is the town on the left column?

Thank you !

Re: Photo Vienna Jewish Cemetery Gate 4 (please also photo of SIGAL) #photographs #austria-czech

Selma Sheridan

When the kind person takes a photo for Daniela Torsh, could he or she please also take a photo of the nearby gravestone of my great-uncle, Mendel David SIGAL, at Tor 4, Group 21, Row 39, Grave 15.  He was born in Kozova in 1881, died in Vienna 1940.  The burial record lists his brother, my grandfather Israel Berl SIGAL, as the person authorized to dispose of the body, - although Israel was already confined in a Sammelhaus at Franz Josefs Kai.  Where could I find  records about the deceased who are buried at the cemetery, - at the synagogue? or IKG? or an archive?  Also, Mendel died at "1180, Spital der IKG" - do they have records?  Many thanks to any and all who can help.
Selma Sigal Sheridan
Oswego NY USA

Re: Obtain copies National Archives U.K. at Kew pertaining Julius BERNARD of Purley(Surrey), period 1937-1946 #records

Jill Whitehead

Purley is part of the London Borough of Croydon if you wish to search electoral registers or the 1939 Register (both on Find my Past). 

I am researching the history of the Jewish Viennese family that occupied my house from the 1940's to the 1990's and came over in 1939. I have their naturalisation records, but cannot get their background papers due to a change in the confidentiality/data protection laws in 2012. I have put in a Freedom of Information Request to Kew but have heard nothing so far, and the enquirer has to say what sort of information they are seeking in the Freedom of Information Request.  You may find the information you are seeking is also subject to Data Protection/confidentiality, or it may not exist, or was destroyed.  

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Photo Vienna Jewish Cemetery Gate 4 #austria-czech #photographs



If Heinrich Neumann died at 27 in Vienna in 1941 was he hidden and got caught by the SA? was it a crime if he was not deported. What happened?
The data I attach for you show that he died on the 20th May 1941 in the  Israelitisches Kultusgemeinde hospital know as
the Rotschild Hospital located in Vienna's 18th district at the Währinger Gürtel. It was desroyed after the war.

My great great grand parents died there too in 1909 and 1910 as they had the pandemic Spanish flew.

My father is also buried at TOR 4 and I will go there on November 1st to see him. I will look around for the grave if I don't forget when I am there.

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