Searching for descendants of Nekha Gornicka from Grodno #belarus

Walter Elias

I am searching for any information on the descendants of Nekha Gornicka nee Keyser, born about 1900 in Grodno, Belarus and her husband Moyshe Abraham. They had three daughters, Kreyna, b. 1922, Chaya and Beyele. Chaya was married but name of husband unknown. Most likely perished in the Holocaust but I have found no records to substantiate. Thank you. Be well and safe.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

Stephen Katz

The German name for Galicia is Galizien. Someone from Galizien is a Galizianer (male) Galizianerin (female). Daniel Bargman explains interestingly the linguistic root.
Stephen Katz
New York City

Re: Philip Aurenbach and his files #records

Sherri Bobish


Here is an article about Philip Aurenbach's death in 1952.

The organization was called "Bavarian Restitution Office."  Perhaps their records are archived somewhere, i.e. YIVO?


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Viewmate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Walter Elias

Hello Jewish Genners, 
I have posted 2 vital records (one death record and a marriage record) in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: and VM83559
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you and be well and safe.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota

Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Sarah L Meyer

I have many non-Jewish friends who have used this.  Some complain because others changed their information.  It is a collaborative tree much like Geni and wikitree.  I would suggest either of those as alternatives.  I would also suggest looking into Tribal Pages (if it still exists) or doing a google search for "free hosting".  Then put up your own tree.  I believe that I spent between $30 and $40 for TNG the next generation to run my online tree (  Now I did opt to pay for hosting but there is free hosting out there.   I do have a statement about privacy - I include names but no data for the living - and will make people completely private upon request.  Those people do not even show up in an index or name list or search.   
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Song - Why don't they give a Yiddisher Boy a Chance? #unitedkingdom

David Cantor

Still searching for the words of the song.  The phrase 'why don't they give a Yiddisher Boy a Chance? appears a couple of times in Bernard Kops' book but is totally unrelated to the song.  Gary Levin, I've looked for the film with Don Arden, no luck there either but thank you for replying.  More leads appreciated.

David Cantor

Re: Online trees #general

Sarah L Meyer

I have also had my tree online for about 13 years,  I have a tree on Ancestry and MyHeritage as well as my own site   I did change hosts about two years ago for my site, and also went to TNG rather than having lots of small files that I had to upload.  I am happy with my Ancestry tree and with my own.  I discovered that I really needed to make my MyHeritage tree private due to privacy issues.  MyHeritage does a good job with privacy until you invite someone to your site.  At that point they can see lots of details on living people - if the details are there.  My original Gedcom came from software that did not automatically suppress details on living people, so instead of making others site members I send them to the sarahsgenies site.   I have met cousins - and gotten a tremendous amount of information because I had an online tree that was searchable by google.  On my husband's side, his third cousin in Denmark, sent us his whole family there - and we have visited on Skype because of that online tree.
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Why would my Grandfather travel under his older brother's name? #names

Mashiach L. Bjorklund

There are a number of reasons why a person would travel under an older siblings name, here's a few:
1. Military conscription - the eldest son could sometimes be exempted for economic reasons from conscription. This would allow them to travel (or buy a ship's ticket to travel) where as a younger sibling who was facing or soon to face conscription would not be allowed to travel.
2. The ship's ticket was purchased under another name - once a ticket was purchased it could not be transferred to another person. But that did not prevent another person from assuming the ticket holders identity and using their ticket.
3. Age restrictions - This varied widely, but if a person was too young to travel unaccompanied they might have used an older siblings identity to purchase a ticket. Especially if there was no one at their destination to receive them upon their arrival. In 1912, a person 14 years or younger would have been considered a minor and could not travel without a designated guardian to accompany them. If the family had the economic means, they could hire a guardian (like a nanny), but if they lacked financial resources the minor would not be allowed to travel, or even purchase a ticket to travel. Keep in mind laws were not the only restriction. Steamship companies had their own rules as they were financially responsible for returning an immigrant if they were rejected at their port of entry.

Documents? That depends upon their country of origin, countries they traveled through, and ports enroute, etc. In very general terms, there was the ticket (which was also their receipt for purchase), that stayed with the person. There was something often referred to as a docket. That came from the steamship's ticket office and was used to add the person to the ship's manifest. This was not a legal requirement but used internally by the steamship line for passenger management. Most of those were disposed of after the ship sailed. Next up was the passenger manifest, created for the ship and matched to the passengers boarding, those were collected at the port of entry upon arrival. Next is the passenger arrival records, available through the National Archives and online via Ancestry and other genealogical database companies.

Keep in mind this is the simplest version of what's available. There are literately hundreds of books are written on this subject. Also go to They have some good tutorials on the subject. There are even some good YouTube videos out there as well.

Looking for descendants of Rose HAMMER and possibly Joseph BODNER #galicia #usa

Raylene Gurewich

I'm looking for the children/grandchildren of Rose HAMMER born in Lezajsk, Austria in 1899. She came to New York in 1913, staying in New York until 1933-1934 and then moved to Los Angeles, California. She had at least one child (my mother, born 1929) with Joseph BODNER in New York and another in California in 1942. According to the bc of the child born in California, she had a total of 4 children and I am looking for descendants of the other 2 children. One most likely a female named Betty. Rose passed away in 1967. Thanks in advance.   
Raylene Gurewich , Port Jefferson Station, NY

KATZOFF family-Brisk/Brest-litovsk, #russia #israel #latinamerica

Yonatan Ben-Ari

I have a chart detailing a group of KATZOFF siblings from
Brisk/Brest-Litovsk. I know that we are somehow connected but am
trying to research the exact connection. My grandfather, who left
Brisk/B.L. at the turn of the century and came to NYC was Reuven
Shraga (Philip) KATZOFF son of Reuven Shraga (born posthumously).

The siblings in the chart are:

Yosef-Poland, Argentina, Israel
Chaim-Poland, Argentina
Moshe-Poland, Russia,Israel
Shulamit-Poland, Argentina
maya Miriam-Poland, Argentina

There is another brother Manny who came to the USA but as , according
to the information i have, his father was also Menachem, I am not sure
if he was born also after his father's death, Manny is not Menachem or
some other mistake in the chart.

Another probable relative was an Arieh Leib KETZEV,, head of the
Israel diamond industry many years ago who, if I understood correctly
when I spoke to him many years ago was a holocaust survivor. His son
and grandson are lawyers in Israel.


Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Yosef KATZOFF-Kibbutz Bet Keshet, Israel #israel

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Looking for children of my late father's cousin Yosef KATZOFF who
lived many years ago on Kibbutz Bet Keshet. He had 2-3 children who I
understand left the Kibbutz years ago. They would probably today in
their 70-80s. I do not know their first names. Their names may be
spelled different: KATZAV, KETZEV, etc.


Yoni Ben Ari, Jerusalem

Sperbers Galicia #galicia

Hannah Sperber

Looking for Philip, Chaim, Halina, Henry, Irene and Nathan Sperber from Galicia

Hannah Sperber

Re: Korshak executed in Rovno #russia

Harold Love

Do you mean Kovno or Rivne?

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Adam Cherson

According to Gedmatch, they do not keep anyone's raw data on their servers so there is no possibility of the hack having accessed anyone's raw data.

Re: Burial Society Washington Cemetery - Bnai Menasse or Menasche #usa

Alan Reische

Thanks Moishe. I've used the db, do come up with linkage of Nachlas Zwei to Mt. Hebron and Mt. Judah, with no further detail. Nothing comes up there either for Menasse or Menasche. I do come up with the following from JGSNY-defunct synagogues list. It is derived from a WPA project in 1939, listing houses of worship in Manhattan. I have not yet tried to access any background data JGSNY may have, the original is somewhere in the NYC archives and I am quite a distance from NYC. Is this meaningful to any Genners?

W-34 842 1895 Chevra Nachlath Zwi Linath Hazedek Bnai Menashe Chevra Nachles Zwi Linath Hazedek Bnai Menasheh (Congregation Nachlas Zwie Anshe Ungarn) (Society, Inheritance of Zwi, Visitors of the Sick, Sons of Menashe
  842A 1897-1913 Chevra Linath Hazedek Bnai Menashe Society, Visitors of the Sick, Sons of Menashe

Re: Directories for New Haven and Hartford, Ct.-1890-1915 #usa #general


The city directories are on-line at

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 8/5/2020 4:24 AM, Yonatan Ben-Ari wrote:
Are there New Haven directories on-line for the years 1890-1915 and
Hartford 1928-1930 ?

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

Reuven Mohr

Galicia (Eastern Europe)

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Galicia (/ɡəˈlɪʃ(i)ə/;[1] Ukrainian and RusynГаличинаHalyčynaPolishGalicjaCzech and SlovakHaličGermanGalizienHungarianGalícia/Kaliz/Gácsország/HalicsRomanianGaliția/HaliciRussianГалицияGalitsiyaYiddishגאַליציע‎ Galitsiye) is a historical and geographic region between Central and Eastern Europe.[2][3][4] It was once the small Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia and later a crown land of Austria-Hungary, the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, which straddled the modern-day border between Poland and Ukraine. The area, named after the medieval city of Halych,[5][6][7] was first mentioned in Hungarian historical chronicles in the year 1206 as Galiciæ.[8][9] In 1253 Prince Daniel of Galicia was crowned the King of Rus (LatinRex Rusiae) or King of Ruthenia following the Mongol invasion in Ruthenia (Kievan Rus). In 1352 the Kingdom of Poland annexed the Kingdom of Galicia and Volhynia as the Ruthenian Voivodeship (LatinPalatinatus Russiae).

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general




What I recall from my childhood in Israel is –

A female from Galicia was referred to as Galiciana

A male from Galicia was referred to as Galicianer

Shalom, Malka cChosnek


Re: Brick wall: FRIEDSON'S, AISENBERG'S and SAMURIN'S from western Massachusetts #usa

Bob Silverstein

Hi David,

I could not find the families.  That shul's records do not seem to go back to the 20's.  Thanks for the suggestion.


Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

Reuven Mohr

wikipedia says that the name comes from the town of Halytsch on the river Dnjester

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