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Re: 1917 marriage, 1935 death in Vienna

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

For any vital information from Austria and surroundings (Moravia, etc)  I suggest that you go to the website Genteam.org   This is a free web site, but you need to register.  It has all sorts of valuable information, including births, marriages (including the location of the marriage), place of death (including addresses), date and locations of burial, location of stone, etc.  This web site lists marriages well into the 1930s.  I urge anyone who is doing research in Vienna and the surrounding to check out this web site, if you have not already done so. 

For your request,  I went to Genteam.org, then "Datenbank"  drop down menu to Vienna.  For the search, I simply put in Grossbard Adolf.   I suggest that you explore this web site further.    It appears that the two individuals you have named may have had a marriage in the military in 1917.  Unfortunately, the record does not list parents - possibly because it was a military marriage. Since the record is identified by number, you may be able to follow up on this.   Here is what I found:.



No. Details Year Last Name First Name Code Location First Name Father
214033
1917 Grossbard Adolf 2 Militärseelsorge  
310195
1917 Kupferstein recte Binder Fanny 2 Militärseelsorge

Liinking on  "Detail" for Adolf, I found the following:
No. 214033
Last Name Grossbard
First Name Adolf
Code 2
First Name Father  
Last Name Mother  
First Name Mother  
Location Militärseelsorge
Book  
Volume MS4
Date 24.05.1917
Number 46
Number Add  
Page  
Addition  
Last Name Bride Kupferstein recte Binder
First Name Bride Fanny
Age

If you go to Viennese Jewish cemeteries you will find the following:
15291
Grossbard Betti 66 1938.11.04 ZF Tor 4 20
12469
Grossbard Frimme 72 1938.01.30 ZF Tor 4 48
66349
Grossbard Isak 49 1931.06.12 ZF Tor 4 7
65372
Grossbard Juda 64 1939.06.09 ZF Tor 4 8
114121
Grossbard Salomon 57 1931.11.01 ZF Tor 4 26
35614
Grossbard Sarah 55 1933.03.24 ZF Tor 4 9

Adolf is listed under Grossbart, along with several other individuals.
I am sure that there is a wealth of more information that you can explore on Genteam.org. 
Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia


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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA
STERNBERG family #romania

Aline Petzold
 

I have been researching my father’s side of the family, last name “Sternberg”.  My father, Joseph, was born in Bucharesti, but his oldest brother, Daniel, known as Nilu, was born in Botosani. I know that my father’s grandparents were Itzic and Ita Sternberg.   I have  obtained birth and death records of several “Sterinbergs” from Botosani, but none of these people have names familiar to me, and the dates of these documents do not correspond with what I know.  How can I confirm that these Sterninbergs are actually my relatives and if not, how do I further my research on the Sternberg side of the family?
Aline Petzold
linypetzold@...
Re: Searching:TSIBULSKY #ukraine

Barbara Hemmendinger
 

Hello,
Since it is a fairly uncommon surname, I will mention that my paternal grandmother’s (Sarah Elk) maiden name was Zibulsky.  She was born in Pereyaslav, Ukraine, in 1894.  Her parents were Leib Yankov Zibulsky (1860-1937) and Ida Shefkowitz Zibulsky (1864-1948).  Please PM me for more discussion, if you wish.  Thanks. 

~Barbara Elk Hemmendinger 
Moise Bondar in prison Jilava Fortul13 #romania #bessarabia

David Choukroun
 

Dear all,

I am looking at information about the Fortul13 Jilava center in Roumania.

Especially if there are means to find records related to :

- Mr Moise Bondar (1917- 2004) from Sculeni, Jassi, Romania, who was in this prison between 1941 and 1944
- His wife Miss Betty Staerman (1924-2004) from Roman, Romania

Thanks for your advices or direct findings, 
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Regards,
David

david.choukroun@...
FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI
Blitz family: trying to find my grandfather's brothers #records

Wendy Griswold
 

Hello cousins. Hope you are staying safe and finding genealogical gems.

My grandfather had 2 brothers who came to him through Ellis Island. I
can't seem to find anything on them after their arrival.

1. There was a "Jajgl" Blitz arr 31 July 1906 age 20, going to his
brother, my grandfather, Morris Blitz at 336 Houston St., on the Lower
East Side of NY. I have that address confirmed from the 1905 census
and the birth certificates of 3 of his children 1902, 1904, and 1907.
So "Jajgl" would have been born around 1886. (I calculate my
grandfather's birth at around 1875.)

What "Jajgl" really was keeps me up at night. Yankel? There are too
many possibilities.

I went through the 1910 NY census and came up with 2 Joseph Blitzes
who might be possibilities. Both of their headstones show father
"Moshe." My grandfather's headstone shows father "Mordechai." So I
have tentatively eliminated them. I haven't found anything else on the
1910 census that looks like a good bet.

2. Another brother, Schulem Blitz, arrived 8/28/13, going to brother
Morris Bitz at 532 "Block" Ave. Anyone from Brooklyn, NY will tell you
that's Blake Ave., and my mother always said that by the time she was
born (March 1914) her family had moved from the Lower East Side and
was living on Blake Avenue. He left behind a wife, Gittel. I calculate
his DOB as around 1875. Pretty close to my grandfather's age, then. I
have not found any record of Gittel's arrival.

We are from Zurawno, which was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire
when my grandparents were born.

I know from his headstone that my grandfather's father was Mordechai.
My grandfather (Moshe/Morris Blitz) died in 1928, somewhere between
the age of 52 and 57, and if there was an obit that would have listed
relatives, I haven't found it.

In my fruitless searches, I have found a Samuel Blitz dob 1867, but Hungarian.
A Samuel Blitz dob 1867 dod 1932 cert 4094, Bronx.
A Samuel Blitz dob 1880 dod 1922 cert 28292 Manhattan.
I'm wondering if I should go after the deaths of "random" Samuels
Blitz, and if there's a better way to go about it than ordering the
death certs.

I also found a Gittel Spitzer, daughter of Solomon and Gittel Blitz of
**Russia,** so maybe not likely; she died 4/1/23 in Los Angeles, wife
of Abraham Spitzer.

I keep bumping up against a naturalization for a Schulim Seinwel
Blitz, but I've ruled him out because the dates are too far off.

I speculate that after my grandfather's death in 1928, my grandmother
didn't have much to do with my grandfather's brothers. There doesn't
seem to be any family memory.

Also, perhaps intriguing and perhaps a McGuffin, there was a Blitz
(probably first name Aaron - it's difficult to read) who lived
practically around the corner from us and who witnessed my Aunt's
marriage cert in 1928. I have traced the putative Aaron Blitz back as
far as his father, Naftali, who probably would have been born in the
1870s (because Aaron was born circa 1891). Am trying to track his
descendants but so far nothing sounds remotely familiar. Perhaps Aaron
was my grandfather's cousin or nephew.

So I'm worn out, possibly missing stuff, possibly not seeing the
forest for the trees, and groping for a systematic way to attack the
problems of Schulem and "Jajgl."

Thoughts? Do any of you happen to be my cousin?

B'shalom
Wendy Griswold
Searching: BLITZ, PFEIFFER, FEIFER, ROTHMAN: Zurawno and environs;
USA, Argentina, Uruguay, Israel, Canada
DWASS/DAVIS: Ekaterinoslaw (Dniepro)
WENZELBERG (any spelling), Nowy Sacz area
Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

rroth@...
 

In response primarily to some of the points raised by Bob Silverstein above:

1. The difference between a privately-held entity and public one is that the private entity ONLY exists to make money, there is no other goal. Whatever they are selling is a means to this one end. A public entity also wants/needs to make money, but at least in theory there is some goal of serving the public. It may be honored in the breach but at least it exists.
3. The laws re insurance companies not using genetic information are only as strong as our wilingness to enforce the law on huge corporations, which in the USA in 2020 is shall we say limited.
4-6. I don't know how this info could be used nefariously, but that doesn't mean some clever crook somewhere will not find a way. I believe a healthy level of paranoia is warranted in this unknown territory.

Robert Roth
rroth@...
Re: Online trees #general

Alan Ehrlich
 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 08:32 AM, Max Heffler wrote:
Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile and one random one I pulled up has links to 1920 and 1930 censuses. There is also a Media tab for each profile, Discussion, Revisions, etc…
Notwithstanding, nothing but an infinitesimal, insignificant,  number of the profiles there provide sources, "etc."... which indeed was one of the points of origin for the present discussion as well as others which recently appeared here.
Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general

David P Cohen
 

I am grateful for Reuven Mor's detailed repsonse..   Despite the coincidence of names an Ashkenazi Jew (even with vague whispers of Sephardic forebeareers )know only of Galitzianers who lived in an area of Poland/Ukraine thjat had suffered most from 17th century Cossack cruelties.  
JRI-Poland volunteer meeting - 2nd CORRECTION, Tuesday, Aug. 11, at the IAJGS Conference #announcements #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

Apologies, the original time message was re-posted in error.  The following is the correct message.

The annual JRI-Poland volunteer meeting will take place virtually this year
at the upcoming IAJGS conference on:
 
 Tuesday, August 11,  12:30 pm - 1:30 pm U.S. Eastern time
  
  9:30 am - 10:30 am Pacific
  5:30 pm - 6:30 pm UK
  6:30 pm - 7:30 pm Central Europe
  7:30 pm - 8:30 pm Israel
  2:30 am - 3:30 am next day (Wednesday) Australia)

The meeting is for our volunteers and others with a serious interest
in giving back and contributing to the JRI-Poland mission.  
 
It will be an opportunity to hear more about how the JRI-Poland 
Next Generation web site and data management project will help 
our town leaders and other volunteers to benefit from the new 
features and tools that will be available in the future.
 
You do not have to be a paid conference attendee to join in.
 
However, whether or not you've paid for the conference, you do 
need to register to attend this and other "Free Access Sessions." 
Please read more below.
 
PAID CONFERENCE ATTENDEES:
Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website
and select "Update Your Info." Then click "Edit" and page through 
your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select 
your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration 
to save them.
 
FREE ACCESS ONLY:
If you have not registered for the conference and want to have 
access to SIG and BOF meetings and other free events, go to
and register for the Virtual Limited Access Conference. Select 
your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the 
registration to save them.
 
If you have already registered for limited free access but did not
select the meetings you want to attend, please go back and edit 
your registration to include your choices. Follow through to the 
end of the registration to save them.
 
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M. 
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from?#general

Hank Lobbenberg
 

The G sound in Russian is replaced with H. Hence, Halych becomes Galych. Kagan becomes Kahan and Khan, etc.
Henry Lobbenberg
Toronto, ON
Canada
Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Bob Silverstein
 

In response to Jx. Gx.

  1. Why are privately held entities any different than public ones, non-profits and governments when making money?  The ultimate goal of the privates and publics is to maximize the wealth of the shareholder.  For non-profits and governments, do they not want to raise enough money to fund their activities?  All are out to make money.
  2. How many hacks of actual DNA have occurred and what have been their consequences?
  3. How would a hacker use DNA data?  Are not insurance companies prevented by law from using genetic information today?  Do not law agencies need cause?
  4. The DNA used for ethnicity and cousin-finding represents a small portion of the entire human genome.  Is that useful to a hacker?  Likewise for medical genetics and identifying traits.
  5. Does a criminal or government really need my DNA to steal my identity?  Does the Internet, legitimate or the dark web, not already have enough information on me?
  6. Who now uses DNA to identify or confirm the identity of an individual other than for lawful purposes?

I look forward to your response.

Bob Silverstein
bobsilverstein@...
Re: Seeking Lasutra family #general #photographs

boris
 

Firstly, many thanks to Sherri Bobish who provided the initial lead. (The initial post was published only yesterday).

 

I hope somebody from IGRA will help me understand how to disseminate this message among genealogists in Israel.

 

I am trying to find Lasutra family descendants who are related to the Gluzman family of Pulin (a.k.a. Chervonoarmejsk) near Zhitomir. I just learned that the Israeli photographer and film maker Ya'acov Ben-Dov was born to Berl-Dov and Raizel Lasutra in Pulin. He had two daughters, Ori and Khanna who were born in the 1910's. Hence, I am looking for their descendants.

 

A nephew (my conjecture based on ages) of Ya'acov Ben-Dov  married Khaya (or Khana) Gluzman  in Pulin.  Khaya/Khana's last niece (there were three just a few years ago) is in her 80's.

 

Thank you!

 

 

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Re: Seeking any and all information on Max Koenig and Hannah (Morgenstern)Koenig #usa

sacredsisters1977@...
 

Hi All
After talking with a distant relative, I am still no closer to finding what happened to Max and Hannah Morgenstern Koenig. As a matter of fact the mystery deepens. I find out that one of the children Samuel changed his name to miller and moved to South Dakota. Also that he married his sister in law's half sister Elizabeth Libby Bassik. It's all very strange. My main focus is to still find the parents date of death and obits. The ones I listed previously are not them, so I am stuck.

Sarah Greenberg(USA)
sacredsisters1977@...
Re: The Given Name Sissel #names #germany

Reuven Mohr
 

if those are the options, Maennlein and Eissig, I would say Eissig.
I see examples where Sissel is connected to Israel or Elieser, Simon and Josef, and in other cases I would expect at least an 's' in the name. Isak, Seckel, Eissik comply with this rule. But I don't have a historic example for this.

I would connect Maennlein to Emanuel, Menachem, Manasse etc.
 
Defrates family from Portugal living Holland from 1600 to 1800 #unitedkingdom

M Thatcher
 


Hello everyone can any one assist me I am try to trace family named Defrates from Portugal  who came to England via Holland.

My Paternal Great Grandfather Francis Defrates arrive in Rochester England in around 1730-1740.  There are no records before the 1740's his of his family record in England. It is reported in the family that he was one of Three branches of the same family group who fled the inquisition in around 1650's.

The archivists in Rochester records of five agree with me that Francis family most probably settled in Holland 

thank you
MALCOLM THATCHERl
Re: Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #holocaust

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Margohebald asks: <<<Question: Although my grandfather came from Krakow (now Poland), he was always listed as "Austrian" in census, and other documents. Would I be eligible for "Austrian" citizenship? His sister, her husband and son disappeared, from Krakow, during the Holocaust.>>>

If your grandfather emigrated when Krakow was still part of Austria (i.e. Galicia), then he left before the First World War, before Poland regained sovereignty over that area, and long before the Nazis rose to power and invaded Poland to set off the Second World War. Despite what may have been written on a foreign census, Krakow was part of Poland for two decades before World War II. So the answer to your question would be no.

If anything, you might be eligible for Polish citizenship. But you'd need to check if you meet the criteria. In general, these laws to restore citizenship in various European countries are aimed at people (or their descendants) who lost it because of Nazi or post-war Communist persecution, not those who left before the Nazi era.

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.
Professional journalist, editor, proofreader and translator.
Certified guide at Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum and Memorial. 
Issac Barr / Levine #usa

Mordechai Perlman
 

My wife's great-grandfather left Russia and emigrated to New York in the late 1800's. His name was isaac Barr. On his tombstone in New York the name was Yitzchok Yehuda. He was taken in by a family in New York called Levine. Out of gratitude to them, he changed his family name from Barr to Levine. He married a woman named Bessie. They were an Orthodox couple who were self-employed, running a bottle-cap business. They were fortunate in that way for it allowed them to make sure that they could keep Shabbos faithfully. My late mother-in-law Elaine Nitsberg, was a daughter of their daughter, Claire Levine. Isaac passed away 40 years before his wife and she lived as a widow until the end of her days.

If anyone has any information about Isaac Levine or his wife Bessie; perhaps about the Barr family, I would appreciate it.

Mordechai Perlman
Ramot, Jerusalem, Israel
Re: The Given Name Sissel #names #germany

rebasolomon
 

When I look at your lInk, the transliteration says SISSEL but the Hebrew letters there would sound more like ZEESIL.  That might be an option to look for. 
Reba Harris Solomon
New York, USA
Re: Census question #bessarabia #records

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Yoram,
Most of the names of the victims of the Kishinev pogrom are listed on Jewishgen as part of Kishinev's KehilahLinks page:
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Chisinau/LIF_POGROM1903_Victims.asp
This page is linked from
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Chisinau/LIF_POGROM1903.asp
which points to many resources concerning the pogrom.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia
Sephardic Databaseson IGRA’s Website #sephardic

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) is proud to collaborate with SephardicGen and announces today “The Jeff Malka SephardicGen Database Collection”, a Sephardic collection commemorating Jeff Malka, Mathilde Tagger and SephardicGen. We are grateful to Jeffrey S. Malka, M.D. for making part of the extensive SephardicGen collection available to IGRA to incorporate it in the AID - All Israel Database.

A preview of the databases is available at

 

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/2020-08-igra-release-sephardicgen-237613233

 

Databases

Births in the Turkish Community of Vienna    1,438 listings

Marriages    14,676 listings     

The Turkish Community of Vienna, Wedding Register (1846-1938)

            Russe (Rutschuk) Wedding Register (1889-1929)

            Izmir Marriages-Brides and Grooms (1820-1933)

Sephardic Rabbis     3,623 listings

            Aleppo Rabbis

            Rabbis of Algeria

            Bulgarian Chief Rabbis (since the independence of the country) 1878-1949

            Fas vehakhameiha   [Fes and its rabbis]

            Malkhei Rabbanan [Rabbis of Morocco]

            Sephardic Chief Rabbis in Eretz Yisrael (1665-2007)

            Chief Rabbis of Turkey (1454-2007)

Belgrade 1856 Census-Jewish Community    307 listings

Voters’ List 1880 Constantine, Algeria    1,778 listings

Residents in various Jewish communities     11,367 listings

            Jewish Records in the 15th century Seville Archives

            Personal Files from the Amsterdam Community

            1919 Directory of the Kingdom of Bulgaria

            Bulgarian Jewish Casualties in Balkan Wars and WWI

            Prominent Jews in Bulgaria in the 19th and 20th Centuries

            History of Jews in Turkey

            La voix d’Israel, Oran (1914-1943)

            Prominent Jews in Egypt (1942-1943)

            Fargeon-Les Juifs d’Egypte des origines a nos jours

            Jewish surnames from the periodical Sefarad (1941-2007)

Livorno Charity 1644 and 1715         83 listings

Deaths         215 listings

            Craiova War Memorial for Jews who perished in 1913, 1916-1919

            Jewish victims of Libyan Riots in 1945,1948 and 1967

Cemeteries     2,300 listings

Deportations to Camps  1939-1943     4,960 listings

Murdered in the Holocaust     851 listings

            Index of Jews of Monastir (Bitola) who perished in theTreblinka Death Camp,

March 1943

 

Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

 

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