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Re: Online trees #general

Max Heffler
 

I used to replace my trees on Ancestry and MyHeritage each January 1 but after attaching all of the record matches and DNA connections they quickly became impossible to keep fresh. So I just keep my local database and geni up-to-date. Simplifies things tremendously.

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of JPmiaou via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 1:44 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Online trees #general

 

Max Heffler wrote:

Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile

...but adding citations to it is well-nigh impossible, at least in the non-Flash interface. For links, it auto-generates an image which cannot be edited, which means that all FS citations have a thumbnail of an error message. And there are three or four layers of "just attach the dratted thing already!" involved in getting even that malformed citation onto a profile. It's no wonder nobody bothers.



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Re: Genealogy Research on LIEBERMAN and FRUMKIN from Byerazino, Belarus #belarus

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Jason, take into account in searching Henry's birth place that there are TWO Berezino (this is, by the way, the Russian spelling) in Belarus: one is about 200 km North  and another 100 km East to Minsk.
I have "doubled" you the search, sorry.
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: The Given Name Sissel #names #germany

Ralph Baer
 

> When I look at your lInk, the transliteration says SISSEL but the Hebrew letters there would sound more like ZEESIL.  That might be an option to look for. 
> Reba Harris Solomon
> New York, USA

it is indeed a zayin. It is transliterated to Sissel because it is a German transliteration, not an English transliteration, and in such a situation a German S is pronounced like an English Z. 
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Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC


JewishGen Education offers Fall Schedule #JewishGenUpdates #announcements #education

Nancy Holden
 
Edited

A reminder that the second half of 2020 brings a variety of JewishGen
classes to meet the research challenges for those who are new, those
that want to renew skills and those who have reached brick walls or
want to publish their research.

Skilled teachers offer interactive genealogy courses, featuring a
personal mentoring program tailored to your research projects. JewishGen
education classes are offered in a private online FORUM open 24/7.
Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their research, and
work one on one with the instructor.

Advanced Research in Belarus: The course explores records on JewishGen
Research Divisions for shtetls and towns within the modern boundaries of Belarus.
This includes parts of the former Lithuania, parts of Latvia and parts
of Poland. This course open for enrollment (scheduled Aug 23).

Using JewishGen to Research Ancestral Roots begins with an Introduction
to Jewish History, Culture and Naming Patterns, moves into Finding your
Shtetl, examines and explores the JewishGen Researcher and Country
Databases, Jewish Records Indexing (JRI-P), and includes practical
hints on translation, finding a researcher and other advanced topics.
This course creates a bridge between the American Family data and those
left behind in Europe, between records available on JewishGen and
related sites and hiring a researcher (scheduled for winter 2020).

Independent Study. This class offers students a chance to work on any
genealogical project within the expertise and with the agreement of
the instructor. The course may include United States research or the
country of immigrant origin for one branch, one surname studies, or
holocaust information searches. In order to qualify for this class and
to ensure you can make progress, we ask that you submit an application.
Details are on the Education Page (scheduled for October 2020).

East Prussia and the Baltic States with an emphasis on Kaunas, Latvia
and Kaliningrad this class traces the migration patterns of Jews who
moved from the Hamburg, Konigsberg area into Kaunas and Courland
(scheduled for November 2020).

There are also many VAS classes offered "free" with a contribution in
the past 12 months to the JewishGen General Fund. We also offer Home
Study Classes at a minimal fee which are self-paced downloadable lessons.

Take a look at our fall schedule www.jewishgen.org/education

For each course students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the
lessons, search online and interact with the instructor. Courses are
open 24/7 to meet the needs of international students. Courses will open
for enrollment 2 weeks before the starting date. Tuition is $150. PLEASE
read the course descriptions and requirements on
www.jewishgen.org/education before enrolling in any course, and where
required, complete the application.

We look forward to interfacing with every student

Nancy Holden,
Director of Education
nholden@...


The IAJGS Virtual Conference Begins Tomorrow #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Chuck Weinstein
 

Join us this week at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies (IAJGS) 40th Anniversary Conference on Jewish Genealogy! The
excitement begins Monday, August 10th and runs through the end of day
Thursday, August 13th. All session times are posted in Eastern Daylight
Time (New York Time or GMT-4). Check out our program at IAJGS2020.org

There are sessions for every Jewish genealogist!

- 38 Live Sessions
- Over 70 Additional Pre-Recorded Sessions to View On Demand
- Special Interest Group (SIG) Meetings
- Birds-of-a-Feather Sessions
- IAJGS Annual Meeting & Awards
- Leadership Management Seminars
- JewishGen Annual Meeting
- 2 Genealogy Game Shows
- Mini film festival and Meet the Filmakers sessions
And a whole lot more!

In addition to Full Conference Attendee privileges for paying attendees,
we offer some Limited Access sessions to non-paying genealogists with
Registration (to keep us safe).

Check out our program at iajgs2020.org and join us and over 1,700 fellow
Jewish Genealogists!

Chuck Weinstein
Communications Director
40th Annual (and first Virtual) IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy


Name of Galicia #galicia

Frank Schulaner
 

And, of course, the one established by those same GALs/Celts in Asia Minor, still there when Saul/Paul (“a Hebrew’s Hebrew”) sent his “Epistle to the Galatians.”
 
--Frank Schulaner, Kealakekua HI


Re: Given name SOSCHE #names

Judith Goldsmith
 

Sosche or Soske is to my knowledge another name for Sara.


Re: Magid's Toldot Michpachat Ginzburg #rabbinic

val.ginzburg@...
 

Hi Jim
Did you do y chromosome?
Were you descended on the maternal or paternal side?

Val Ginzburg 


Re: HEN family #general

val.ginzburg@...
 

Zeev

I am interested to know about Chen vs Gen' connection. Also, Ginzburg connection.


GELBENDORF-Poland/Montreal #canada

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

My cousin mentioned that we are related to a GELBENDORF family which
had a branch in Montreal. The ones he met many years ago would be in
their early 100 y.o. so presumably they would not be live today.

He presumes that they came from ancestral city of
Brisk/Brest-litovsk. We are KATZOFF but GELBENDORF may be connected
to PITTERMAN or VOLENSKY also our family. I'd be happy to confirm the
above connection to GELBENDORF to compare family connections.

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Re: Online trees #general

JPmiaou@...
 

Max Heffler wrote:
Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile
...but adding citations to it is well-nigh impossible, at least in the non-Flash interface. For links, it auto-generates an image which cannot be edited, which means that all FS citations have a thumbnail of an error message. And there are three or four layers of "just attach the dratted thing already!" involved in getting even that malformed citation onto a profile. It's no wonder nobody bothers.

Granted, other tree sites all have their own problems, sources-wise. On Ancestry, it's easy enough to attach Ancestry's sources (if you've paid them enough money recently), but good luck with outside sources -- you have to fill out a form that consists almost entirely of totally-inapplicable fields. (Author? It's a vital register, it has no author. Publisher? It's a vital register, it has never been published. Publication date? Grrr, what part of _not published_ is so hard to comprehend...?) And then it eats all the whitespace in the transcription. Oh, and if you need to attach the same source to another profile, you have to start over at the very beginning.

I've never managed to attach a source on MyHeritage. If I allow the tree-propagation process to add a cousin's mistakes, er, I mean entries, then the system can auto-generate a citation of the cousin's tree; I've figured out how to edit that citation, but I have yet to find a means of adding any others. (No, I haven't looked all that hard; the site has too many paywalls for me to invest too much time in it.)

WikiTree tries to emphasize sourcing, but the interface is pretty miserable; you basically have to write code, and it's not possible to link between the entry fields and the citations.

FS's sourcing can be a bit schizophrenic due to its misguided emphasis on indexed data, but overall, I find it easiest to use. I especially like the ability to write up a citation just once and then attach it to everyone mentioned, which is quite handy for things like funeral notices.

hccolby wrote:
But recently FamilySearch has recruited "volunteers" who now add whatever they want to my tree.
Huh? I wonder what has been mangled into this misconception. FamilySearch falls in the communal tree category: there is no "my tree" and "your tree" on the site, and everyone who adds data to the tree is a volunteer, including you and me. Yes, users make mistakes, especially when different people have the same name -- but nobody recruited those users, for any purpose; they're just people working on genealogy, exactly like you and me.

Julia
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Help finding a naturalization in ED or SD NY for Sosche TOBIAS #usa

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear Genners,
 
Sosche TOBIAS arrived 13 Jun 1943 in NYC from Hamburg on the Vaterland.  https://www.tinyurl.com/y5lqwd78, line 1.  
 
There is a notation on the manifest: 2-122347?, I think, if I am reading it correctly, dated 20 Feb 1943.  I am trying to find Sosche's actual naturalization documents, so far without success. 
 
I know the 2 is for New York; I tried the number 122347 in the FamilySearch catalog of films for ED NY, but it didn't work.  Do I know from the date that it is merely a verification date or is it an admission to citizenship date?  Does the number mean anything?  Have I read the number correctly? Is there a way to get Sosche's petition number?  I have tried GermanGen and JGSNY for Sosche or another name beginning with S with no luck. Should I start with 20 Feb 1943 as a naturalization date and go through ED NY films page by page?
 
Am I correct that only the ED NY actual naturalization documents are online on Family Search and not the SD NY actual naturalization documents? 
 
Is there a naturalization maven in the house?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA

 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
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Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland


Question re: unfamiliar family names and dead end research #general #names

Aline Petzold
 

I have been researching my father’s side of the family, last name “Sternberg”.  My father, Joseph, and most of his siblings were born in Bucharesti, but his oldest brother Daniel, known as Nilu, was born in Botosani. I know that my father’s grandparents were Itzic and Ita Sternberg.   I have  obtained birth and death records if several “Sterinbergs” from Botosani, but none of these people have names familiar to me, and the dates of these documents do not correspond with what I know.  How can I confirm that these Sterinbergs are actually my relatives and if not, how do I further my research on the Sternberg side of the family?

Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN


Prince from Ukraine #ukraine

bobmalakoff@...
 

I don't really expect an answer but I will give it a try.  I am helping a friend with her tree and one last name for a relative from Ukraine is Prince also spelled Printz.  The name was changed from an "unpronounceable" name.  Any guesses as to what that name could have been?

 


Re: GINSBURG of St. Petersburg #general

val.ginzburg@...
 

Did you do your DNA y-chromosome?
There are many Ginzburg but only some of them are related. It would be interesting to see if we share a relationship. I found out that I belong to the same ancestor as De Gunzburg family.
Val Ginzburg


Ginzburg family #belarus #germany #names

val.ginzburg@...
 

could someone post a link to 'Toldot mishpachat Ginzburg'
'Mesbuchan of Pressee, Augsburg '
Does any one know if they were translated to English?

Thank you
Val


The IAJGS Conference Begins Tomorrow! #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Chuck Weinstein
 

Join us this week at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) 40th Anniversary Conference on Jewish Genealogy! The excitement begins Monday, August 10th and runs through the end of day Thursday, August 13th. All session times are posted in Eastern Daylight Time (New York Time or GMT-4)). Check out our program at IAJGS2020.org

 

There are sessions for every Jewish genealogist!

 

- 38 Live Sessions

- Over 70 Additional Pre-Recorded Sessions to View On Demand

- Special Interest Group (SIG) Meetings

- Birds-of-a-Feather Sessions

- IAJGS Annual Meeting & Awards

- Leadership Management Seminars

- JewishGen Annual Meeting

- 2 Genealogy Game Shows

- Mini film festival and Meet the Filmakers sessions

And a whole lot more!

 

In addition to Full Conference Attendee privileges for paying attendees, we offer some Limited Access sessions to non-paying genealogists with Registration (to keep us safe).

 

Check out our program at iajgs2020.org and join us!

 

Chuck Weinstein

Communications Director

40th Annual (and first Virtual) IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy


Re: The female Yiddish name Losche in the US? #names...one more thing

Susan stone
 

oops.  Meant to respond to your question...

Sosha could be Susan, like me..  Or Sadie as someone said.  My great grandmother's name had nothing to do with this Yiddish name.  Her name was Magdolna (called Lena).


Re: Nussdorfs brothers-Hungary or Berlin #germany #hungary

Bberiman597
 

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Judy Petersen wrote:
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Thanks Judy.  I will follow these up.  What is MCSE?  BARBARA


Re: The female Yiddish name Losche in the US? #names

Susan stone
 

My name was written in Hungarian by my great uncle on a family tree.  Szosa (after my great grandmother Szosa Laya).  But they all prounounced it Sossa or Sussa.  My name in English is Susan (eg shoshana in Hebrew but not my name).
The way he wrote it it should be pronounced Sosha (sz is like an s and s is like an sh).  So maybe he wrote it wrong or who knows.  But I think your name on the manifest was Soshe. .  It looked like an "L" but was an "S" for sure.  Sosche,no Losche.