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Subcarpathia Research Division Virtual Meeting
#subcarpathia
Lara Diamond
The JewishGen Subcarpathia Research Division (formerly the
Subcarpathia SIG) will meet virtually on Monday August 10, from 4-5PM, U.S. Eastern time. I will be giving a presentation on the Division’s recent activities, including records added to JewishGen and others recently indexed. You do NOT have to be a paid conference attendee to join in. However, whether or not you’ve paid for the conference, you do need to register to attend this and other “Free Access Sessions.” Please read more below. PAID CONFERENCE ATTENDEES: Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website (https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2020/asc_login.cfm, sign in, and select “Update Your Info.” Then click “Edit” and page through your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them. FREE ACCESS ONLY: If you have not registered for the conference and want to have access to SIG and BOF meetings and other free events, go to https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2020/registration_form.cfm and register for the Virtual Limited Access Conference. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them. If you have already registered for limited free access but did not select the meetings you want to attend, please go back and edit your registration to include your choices. Follow through to the end of the registration to save them. For more information about the conference see www.iajgs2020.org or www.facebook.com/groups/IAJGS . Registration questions/problems? Contact the conference organizers at registration@.... Lara Diamond JewishGen Subcarpathia Research Director
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joseph just
Does anyone know if civil registration records exist for Fulek/Filakovo and Aszod. They are not on FamilySearch.
Joseph Just 123jcj@...
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David Ellis
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Re: Online trees
#general
Max Heffler
I used to replace my trees on Ancestry and MyHeritage each January 1 but after attaching all of the record matches and DNA connections they quickly became impossible to keep fresh. So I just keep my local database and geni up-to-date. Simplifies things tremendously.
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On Behalf Of JPmiaou via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 1:44 PM To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Online trees #general
Max Heffler wrote: Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile ...but adding citations to it is well-nigh impossible, at least in the non-Flash interface. For links, it auto-generates an image which cannot be edited, which means that all FS citations have a thumbnail of an error message. And there
are three or four layers of "just attach the dratted thing already!" involved in getting even that malformed citation onto a profile. It's no wonder nobody bothers. -- Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html
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Re: Genealogy Research on LIEBERMAN and FRUMKIN from Byerazino, Belarus
#belarus
Dr.Josef ASH
Jason, take into account in searching Henry's birth place that there are TWO Berezino (this is, by the way, the Russian spelling) in Belarus: one is about 200 km North and another 100 km East to Minsk.
I have "doubled" you the search, sorry. Josef ASH, Israel
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Ralph Baer
> When I look at your lInk, the transliteration says SISSEL but the Hebrew letters there would sound more like ZEESIL. That might be an option to look for.
> Reba Harris Solomon
> New York, USA
-- it is indeed a zayin. It is transliterated to Sissel because it is a German transliteration, not an English transliteration, and in such a situation a German S is pronounced like an English Z. Ralph N. Baer RalphNBaer@... Washington, DC
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JewishGen Education offers Fall Schedule
#JewishGenUpdates
#announcements
#education
A reminder that the second half of 2020 brings a variety of JewishGen
classes to meet the research challenges for those who are new, those that want to renew skills and those who have reached brick walls or want to publish their research. Skilled teachers offer interactive genealogy courses, featuring a personal mentoring program tailored to your research projects. JewishGen education classes are offered in a private online FORUM open 24/7. Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their research, and work one on one with the instructor. Advanced Research in Belarus: The course explores records on JewishGen Research Divisions for shtetls and towns within the modern boundaries of Belarus. This includes parts of the former Lithuania, parts of Latvia and parts of Poland. This course open for enrollment (scheduled Aug 23). Using JewishGen to Research Ancestral Roots begins with an Introduction to Jewish History, Culture and Naming Patterns, moves into Finding your Shtetl, examines and explores the JewishGen Researcher and Country Databases, Jewish Records Indexing (JRI-P), and includes practical hints on translation, finding a researcher and other advanced topics. This course creates a bridge between the American Family data and those left behind in Europe, between records available on JewishGen and related sites and hiring a researcher (scheduled for winter 2020). Independent Study. This class offers students a chance to work on any genealogical project within the expertise and with the agreement of the instructor. The course may include United States research or the country of immigrant origin for one branch, one surname studies, or holocaust information searches. In order to qualify for this class and to ensure you can make progress, we ask that you submit an application. Details are on the Education Page (scheduled for October 2020). East Prussia and the Baltic States with an emphasis on Kaunas, Latvia and Kaliningrad this class traces the migration patterns of Jews who moved from the Hamburg, Konigsberg area into Kaunas and Courland (scheduled for November 2020). There are also many VAS classes offered "free" with a contribution in the past 12 months to the JewishGen General Fund. We also offer Home Study Classes at a minimal fee which are self-paced downloadable lessons. Take a look at our fall schedule www.jewishgen.org/education For each course students should have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, search online and interact with the instructor. Courses are open 24/7 to meet the needs of international students. Courses will open for enrollment 2 weeks before the starting date. Tuition is $150. PLEASE read the course descriptions and requirements on www.jewishgen.org/education before enrolling in any course, and where required, complete the application. We look forward to interfacing with every student Nancy Holden, Director of Education nholden@...
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The IAJGS Virtual Conference Begins Tomorrow
#jgs-iajgs
#announcements
Join us this week at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies (IAJGS) 40th Anniversary Conference on Jewish Genealogy! The excitement begins Monday, August 10th and runs through the end of day Thursday, August 13th. All session times are posted in Eastern Daylight Time (New York Time or GMT-4). Check out our program at IAJGS2020.org There are sessions for every Jewish genealogist! - 38 Live Sessions - Over 70 Additional Pre-Recorded Sessions to View On Demand - Special Interest Group (SIG) Meetings - Birds-of-a-Feather Sessions - IAJGS Annual Meeting & Awards - Leadership Management Seminars - JewishGen Annual Meeting - 2 Genealogy Game Shows - Mini film festival and Meet the Filmakers sessions And a whole lot more! In addition to Full Conference Attendee privileges for paying attendees, we offer some Limited Access sessions to non-paying genealogists with Registration (to keep us safe). Check out our program at iajgs2020.org and join us and over 1,700 fellow Jewish Genealogists! Chuck Weinstein Communications Director 40th Annual (and first Virtual) IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy
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Name of Galicia
#galicia
Frank Schulaner
And, of course, the one established by those same GALs/Celts in Asia Minor, still there when Saul/Paul (“a Hebrew’s Hebrew”) sent his “Epistle to the Galatians.”
--Frank Schulaner, Kealakekua HI
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Re: Given name SOSCHE
#names
Judith Goldsmith
Sosche or Soske is to my knowledge another name for Sara.
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Re: Magid's Toldot Michpachat Ginzburg
#rabbinic
val.ginzburg@...
Hi Jim
Did you do y chromosome? Were you descended on the maternal or paternal side? Val Ginzburg
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Re: HEN family
#general
val.ginzburg@...
Zeev
I am interested to know about Chen vs Gen' connection. Also, Ginzburg connection.
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GELBENDORF-Poland/Montreal
#canada
Yonatan Ben-Ari
My cousin mentioned that we are related to a GELBENDORF family which
had a branch in Montreal. The ones he met many years ago would be in their early 100 y.o. so presumably they would not be live today. He presumes that they came from ancestral city of Brisk/Brest-litovsk. We are KATZOFF but GELBENDORF may be connected to PITTERMAN or VOLENSKY also our family. I'd be happy to confirm the above connection to GELBENDORF to compare family connections. TIA Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
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Re: Online trees
#general
JPmiaou@...
Max Heffler wrote:
Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile...but adding citations to it is well-nigh impossible, at least in the non-Flash interface. For links, it auto-generates an image which cannot be edited, which means that all FS citations have a thumbnail of an error message. And there are three or four layers of "just attach the dratted thing already!" involved in getting even that malformed citation onto a profile. It's no wonder nobody bothers. Granted, other tree sites all have their own problems, sources-wise. On Ancestry, it's easy enough to attach Ancestry's sources (if you've paid them enough money recently), but good luck with outside sources -- you have to fill out a form that consists almost entirely of totally-inapplicable fields. (Author? It's a vital register, it has no author. Publisher? It's a vital register, it has never been published. Publication date? Grrr, what part of _not published_ is so hard to comprehend...?) And then it eats all the whitespace in the transcription. Oh, and if you need to attach the same source to another profile, you have to start over at the very beginning. I've never managed to attach a source on MyHeritage. If I allow the tree-propagation process to add a cousin's mistakes, er, I mean entries, then the system can auto-generate a citation of the cousin's tree; I've figured out how to edit that citation, but I have yet to find a means of adding any others. (No, I haven't looked all that hard; the site has too many paywalls for me to invest too much time in it.) WikiTree tries to emphasize sourcing, but the interface is pretty miserable; you basically have to write code, and it's not possible to link between the entry fields and the citations. FS's sourcing can be a bit schizophrenic due to its misguided emphasis on indexed data, but overall, I find it easiest to use. I especially like the ability to write up a citation just once and then attach it to everyone mentioned, which is quite handy for things like funeral notices. hccolby wrote: But recently FamilySearch has recruited "volunteers" who now add whatever they want to my tree.Huh? I wonder what has been mangled into this misconception. FamilySearch falls in the communal tree category: there is no "my tree" and "your tree" on the site, and everyone who adds data to the tree is a volunteer, including you and me. Yes, users make mistakes, especially when different people have the same name -- but nobody recruited those users, for any purpose; they're just people working on genealogy, exactly like you and me. Julia ./\ /\ .>*.*<
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Help finding a naturalization in ED or SD NY for Sosche TOBIAS
#usa
Susan Goldsmith
Dear Genners,
Sosche TOBIAS arrived 13 Jun 1943 in NYC from Hamburg on the Vaterland. https://www.tinyurl.com/y5lqwd78, line 1.
There is a notation on the manifest: 2-122347?, I think, if I am reading it correctly, dated 20 Feb 1943. I am trying to find Sosche's actual naturalization documents, so far without success.
I know the 2 is for New York; I tried the number 122347 in the FamilySearch catalog of films for ED NY, but it didn't work. Do I know from the date that it is merely a verification date or is it an admission to citizenship date? Does the number mean anything? Have I read the number correctly? Is there a way to get Sosche's petition number? I have tried GermanGen and JGSNY for Sosche or another name beginning with S with no luck. Should I start with 20 Feb 1943 as a naturalization date and go through ED NY films page by page?
Am I correct that only the ED NY actual naturalization documents are online on Family Search and not the SD NY actual naturalization documents?
Is there a naturalization maven in the house?
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
s -- Susan Goldsmith San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA jcwsmg@... Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland
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Aline Petzold
I have been researching my father’s side of the family, last name “Sternberg”. My father, Joseph, and most of his siblings were born in Bucharesti, but his oldest brother Daniel, known as Nilu, was born in Botosani. I know that my father’s grandparents were Itzic and Ita Sternberg. I have obtained birth and death records if several “Sterinbergs” from Botosani, but none of these people have names familiar to me, and the dates of these documents do not correspond with what I know. How can I confirm that these Sterinbergs are actually my relatives and if not, how do I further my research on the Sternberg side of the family?
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Prince from Ukraine
#ukraine
bobmalakoff@...
I don't really expect an answer but I will give it a try. I am helping a friend with her tree and one last name for a relative from Ukraine is Prince also spelled Printz. The name was changed from an "unpronounceable" name. Any guesses as to what that name could have been?
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Re: GINSBURG of St. Petersburg
#general
val.ginzburg@...
Did you do your DNA y-chromosome?
There are many Ginzburg but only some of them are related. It would be interesting to see if we share a relationship. I found out that I belong to the same ancestor as De Gunzburg family. Val Ginzburg
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val.ginzburg@...
could someone post a link to 'Toldot mishpachat Ginzburg'
'Mesbuchan of Pressee, Augsburg ' Does any one know if they were translated to English? Thank you Val
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The IAJGS Conference Begins Tomorrow!
#jgs-iajgs
#announcements
Join us this week at the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) 40th Anniversary Conference on Jewish Genealogy! The excitement begins Monday, August 10th and runs through the end of day Thursday, August 13th. All session times are posted in Eastern Daylight Time (New York Time or GMT-4)). Check out our program at IAJGS2020.org
There are sessions for every Jewish genealogist!
- 38 Live Sessions - Over 70 Additional Pre-Recorded Sessions to View On Demand - Special Interest Group (SIG) Meetings - Birds-of-a-Feather Sessions - IAJGS Annual Meeting & Awards - Leadership Management Seminars - JewishGen Annual Meeting - 2 Genealogy Game Shows - Mini film festival and Meet the Filmakers sessions And a whole lot more!
In addition to Full Conference Attendee privileges for paying attendees, we offer some Limited Access sessions to non-paying genealogists with Registration (to keep us safe).
Check out our program at iajgs2020.org and join us!
Chuck Weinstein Communications Director 40th Annual (and first Virtual) IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy
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