Avigdor family of Mexico City #general

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi Jacob Avigdor who died
in Mexico City in 1967. One son, Rabbi Isaac Chaim lived in Hartford,
CT and the other, Rabbi Abraham Issachar was a rabbi in Mexico City
who had Yisrael of Mexico City, Dr. Neftuli Avigdor a pediatrician and
their sister Rochel who lives/lived in Mexico City.

Re: Probate in Oklahoma? #usa #records


 Start at This is the search page for the various clerks of court for the counties in Oklahoma.  All probate work is handled at the county level.  Put in the name of the deceased and any other information you have into the search engine, and see if you get a case number and county name back.

If you get a case number and county name back, you will need to search the case record for an order directing the personal representative/executor/executrix to distribute the estate.  If there was a will that was not challenged, the will Controls.  If there was no will, the statute controls.  The order will state who got what, and, hopefully, the relationship.  If there was a challenge to the will, you will need to do a deep dive into the case file to see what happened.

If you do not get a case number and county name, one of three things happened — (a) the case is not indexed online, since it dates back to 1978, or (b) the assets were not sufficient to justify going to court, and were handled informally, or (c) everything of any significance (real property or property requiring a title such as automobiles, boats or airplanes) was held jointly and title passed automatically to the other party.  If (a), contact the Clerk of Court for the county in which the people lived or any property was held.  If (b), you are out of luck — there is no record.  If (c), check the real property records to see what happened.

Re: Name of Marrero possibly Marrano from Puerto Rico. Possibly Jewish? #names #latinamerica

Adam Cherson

Dear Mr. Marrero,

Interestingly I have an ancestor whose actual surname was Marrano from the hills of Central Italy, which was a Spanish colony for several centuries and experienced the same inquisition as in Spain, as well as Spanish migration. There are some descendants of this town who have suggested the possibility of a Jewish origin for this surname, but I have never seen any concrete evidence of this. And I have not yet encountered any modern Marranos from the same town.

There is a way to answer the question about your possible Jewish ancestry even in the absence of any documentary records. I recently completed a study for a friend whose spouse was wondering the same thing: there were family stories yet no tangible evidence. After applying the method of personal genography, the conclusion was: no substantial Jewish ancestry. I would be glad to explain the method in more detail if you are interested (please contact me privately).

Adam Cherson

Re: Looking for SHERMAN relatives #ukraine #names #usa


Over 15 years ago I did a little research.  My maternal grandmother's (from Cleveland) mother's last name was Sherman and there were Sherman cousins that I really did not know.  Her name was Zelda Sherman and married Joseph Kaufman and one of their kids was my grandmother Sadie. Her married name was Gordon. Here is an email I sent in 2001 to someone named Jack Buck who said he had no info. There was a big "cousin's club" in Cleveland and they would put on musicals and I know some Shermans participated in them.  Email me privately and I may have pix of that...

I am looking for information about Shermans from Vlodovka near Kiev
(we think).

Sholom-Naiach 1826-186? m. Pearl 1830-187?

Shandel m. Morris Zaslovsky
  Children Mitzi, Sam

Zelda 1883-1935 m. Joseph Kaufman
   Children Bertha, Sadie (died around 1972 age around 60), David, Sidney

Shifra m. Moishe Clossman
   Sam, Joe, Sol, Sadie, Pearl, Stella

Chi-Soora m. Mayer Mansky
   Children Ben, Jake, Abe, Sam, Dorothy, Stella, Rose, Jean

Geetla-Choma m. Yosel (The Water Carrier)
   Children  Stissy, Toilya

Avraham m. Russie Lubarsky
   Children Ben, Teddi, Zadel, Itzie, Razel

Re: Prince from Ukraine #ukraine

Yefim Kogan

Not sure how you came up with the link between PRINTZ and PARKAN...
If go to Beider's surnames encyclopedia  you find PRINTZ is coming from female name SHPRINTS (sorry to disappoint you),  and also from prince.
SHPRITS was common in some towns in Bessarabia.

I understand that Jews changed their names, as my great great grandfather did,  and I do not know what that surname was.


Re: Additional 19th C. Vilna City record sources – Archival Records of the Merchant class #lithuania

Susan Sorkenn

Dear Mr. Ratner:

I just saw this message this morning.  I've been trying for years to learn about my great-great-grandparents, Reb Yossel and Zelda Weinstein.  Reb Yossel was a rosh yeshiva in Vilna, and  Zelda was a commission merchant for Polish nobles.  They were both born in about 1806-10.  Zelda lived to the age of 104-6.  She met with the nobles and had agents working for her who  purchased property, jewels, and Arabian horses for them, according to an account by my maternal grandmother, her granddaughter, who lived with her after her father died young from TB.  They had 9 children, one, my g-grandfather, Moishe Aaron, who was an auditor of liquor sales.  A daughter was said to have married a brother of the sculptor Mark Antokolsky. The family name was originally a form of Romm. I discovered an uncle, Yitzhak ben Moshe Rumsch.  Was this the family name?  He translated "Robinson Crusoe" from German into Hebrew, the definitive translation.  Reb Yossel was "adopted" by a childless Weinstein relative to escape conscription. I can find no mention of such a prominent woman or her husband, probably because though I've tried all spellings I can think of for Weinstein, I can't find them.  Do you have any information about how I should proceed. I do know other descendants, including a granddaughter, my grandmother's sister, Celia, who married "Itcha" Pollack, who owned a cotton plantation in Tashkent, which he was allowed to run for the Bolsheviks when they took the plantation over.. They were incredibly wealthy. The government assigned a new apartment Moscow to their son, a "first-class" engineer, with a room for his parents after the Revolution. Although this whole family were very rich, the children had Socialist leanings. Two of Zelda's sons, medical students, were arrested for revolutionary activity and died of TB in prison.
I am desperate to learn how my grandmother was able to become such a wealthy businesswoman in these times, while remaining an Orthodox Jew. I know nothing of her maiden name or background.

By the way, I see you're from Newton.  One of Bubbe Zelda's grandsons was Hyman Morrison, a prominent doctor in Boston.  He attended Harvard and Harvard Medical School on scholarship and was on the faculty of Tufts.  He was an ardent Zionist and a  personal friend of Chaim Weizmann.

I'd be grateful for any assistance you can provide.  Do you think there is any information in Dr. Ambuleviciute's book?

Susan Kurtin Sorkenn

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation

Dr.Josef ASH

tet shin xounds like ch in chair/
She was Shejne, I suppose, but was remembered as Shejnche


Hi  Helen,                                               11th August 2020

I happen to know a Mr.Erwin Gottesman--Boropark-  USA

i wonder, if you think it might be helpful to you, please send me your e-mail, phone number and I can forward it to him.

Best wishes
Veronika Pachtinger--paveanyu@...
London UK

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements

Janice Brockman

I don't post here much at all - but If you are concerned about GEDmatch, you should be more concerned about using Here is a link -   Janice Brockman - April, 2019 - -  ........Microsoft notified users of of a security breach that exposed account information on Friday,  ........."This unauthorized access could have allowed unauthorized parties to access and/or view information related to your email account (such as your e-mail address, folder names, the subject lines of e-mails, and the names of other e-mail addresses you communicate with)  ........ Microsoft confirmed to ZDNet that around 6% of those who received a notification have had the content of their accounts accessed by hackers  ........    Similarly, the length of the breach is unclear--Microsoft claims only three months, though a report from Motherboard indicates it was "up to six months," with hackers using account access to reset iCloud accounts linked to stolen iPhones.  ....... Second, consider not using In 2013, The Guardian reported that Microsoft provides pre-encryption access to messages sent through the service to the NSA, and has helped the agency in circumventing encryption for other Microsoft services. Microsoft's recent track record for security and privacy has been rather spotty  

Re: Translation #translation #yiddish


It is a partial translation:
On the stamp:
Production of cash registers and checkout
and paints in jars
for cash registers
St. Trotsky # 18

Re: Prince from Ukraine #ukraine

Alan Shuchat

In Ukrainian and Russian, one word for prince is князь (knyaz’). Maybe that’s the “unpronounceable name.
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

Re: GINSBURG of St. Petersburg #general


Mordechai Stein my wife's GGGgrandfather from Shavel in Lithuania married Yacha Ginzburg, apparently Baron Horace Ginzburg's sister. Anyone have data on the family of Baron Ginzburg?

Kevin Ossey

looking for Annette Kaufman related to Haskel's from Suwalki in Lithuania/Poland #lithuania #poland


Annette Kaufman's DNA shows affinity to my wife at the 2nd cousin level. Have tried to contact Annette but have not had any luck. I assume she lives in the USA and am trying here to see if other people may have knowledge of Kaufman relatives to Haskell/Haskel of the Suwalki gubernia in Poland.
Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, Texas

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation

Mordechai Perlman

Sheyntche - It means nice with a little suffix. Like Chanale for Chana.

Mordechai Perlman
Ramot, Jerusalem, Israel

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation


It would clearly read Sheyntche but I've also never seen that name before. It sounds like a form of the name Sheyna meaning beauty.

Re: GINSBURG of St. Petersburg #general

David Ellis

I recently learned that Rabbi Yitzchak Ayzik GINSBURG (1780-1839) was my 6th-generation direct ancestor.  By correlating revision lists for 1813, 1795 and 1784, I identified his father Eliyahu Elyash and grandfather, also named Yitzchak Ayzyk.  All three lived in Vilnius, and I estimate the elder Yitzchak Ayzyk was born around 1730, give or take.

The Maggid book gives passing mention of these people but seems unable to make up its mind who the father of the elder Yitzchak Ayzyk was.  The family tree that folds out on page 150 lists his father as Yehuda Idel but goes no further and doesn't connect my branch to the main tree.  The errata on page 307 says that attribution is mistaken and should be Shimon HaKadosh (the martyr).  There is a problem with this correction:  Shimon HaKadosh lived about a century too early to possibly be the correct father and my 9th-generation ancestor.  

My newly discovered ancestors are mentioned only in passing, on pages 82 and 83 (mostly in three footnotes, of which the third spans the two pages).  This textual reference doesn't resolve the question of who my 9th-generation ancestor was or how my branch connects to the main GINSBURG tree that goes back centuries.

In an attempt to corroborate one account or the other, I searched the 1765 revision list from Vilnius by hand, since there is no translation from the original Polish.  It lists one family headed by Icko with son Eliasz, and the ages are consistent with my family tree.  Unfortunately, Icko's patronymic Hirszowicz doesn't agree with either scenario in Maggid's book.  I think this is my family, but I'm not certain based on this record alone.

I welcome suggestions as to how to proceed with my research into the GINSBURG branch of my family.  Please feel free to contact me directly by e-mail.

David Ellis
Natick, MA

Re: Ancestry purchased by Blacksone #announcements


I am not sure if this this is a good news. A just profit orientated company buys one of the main genealogy websites. They would not do it if they don't see a chance to make more money. Hope the simple idea of knowing more about ancestors of the thousands of family researchers is not in conflict with this new structure in ownership.......

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation

Kenneth Ryesky

The name is obviously Yiddish and not Hebrew, what with the Ayin being a vowel.  The name would be Sheintshe.
-- Ken Ryesky, Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation

Max Heffler



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Subject: [] Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation


I can read her father's name, but don't recognize this woman's Hebrew name, Sheyn...? Thank you for your help.


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Re: Town Finder my district #education


Try the genealogicalindexer and do a search on gubernia, you will get a number of yizor book listings
Ron Peeters

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