Re: Town Finder my district #education

Alan Shuchat

For Ukraine, one way is to go to the Ukraine Research Division. There is a map showing the various gubernias. Click on one and you'll see a map of the gubernia and a list of the districts and main towns. You can click further and drill down. You can also go to (in Chrome you can translate this to English automatically) and click on a gubernia name and drill down. For Lithuania, go to
and you'll see the districts and major towns in each gubernia.
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA


Dear Helen,
read this article about Gottesmans of Mukachevo, Munkács in correct Hungarian.


Re: Name Change Document in NYC #names

Sherri Bobish


Did he naturalize?  Sometimes a name change occurred at time of naturalization, and was noted on the nat papers.

I believe that many people that chose to change their names did not bother with any paperwork though.

But, there are records of name changes in NY.
"The court order changing a personal name is recorded in the county clerk's office in the county where the person resides."


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: Did my father have a guardian? #records

Sherri Bobish


Is this your Louis on the 1930 federal census?


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ
                           1930 census
Name: Louis Sloninisky
Birth Year: abt 1917
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Georgia Avenue
Block: E
House Number: 351
Dwelling Number: 56
Family Number: 312
Lives on Farm: No
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Household Members:
Name Age
Meyer Trayoff 43
Lizzie Trayoff 37
Max Trayoff 11
Bessie Trayoff 7
Phelp Sloninisky 21
Louis Sloninisky 13

Vital Records Translation from Polish #poland #translation

Walter Elias

Hello Jewish Genners, 
I am re-posting 2 vital records (one death record and a marriage record) in Polish for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: and VM83559

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you and be well and safe.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota

Re: Probate in Oklahoma? #usa #records

David Lewin

Thank you for your excellent guidance - that is great.   However, I have a problem.   Is the URL you gave correct?   I get :-

The connection has timed out

The server at is taking too long to respond.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

I use FireFox 99% of the time


At 14:57 11/08/2020, almhuss@... wrote:
 Start at This is the search page for the various clerks of court for the counties in Oklahoma.  All probate work is handled at the county level.  Put in the name of the deceased and any other information you have into the search engine, and see if you get a case number and county name back.

If you get a case number and county name back, you will need to search the case record for an order directing the personal representative/executor/executrix to distribute the estate.  If there was a will that was not challenged, the will Controls.  If there was no will, the statute controls.  The order will state who got what, and, hopefully, the relationship.  If there was a challenge to the will, you will need to do a deep dive into the case file to see what happened.

If you do not get a case number and county name, one of three things happened ­ (a) the case is not indexed online, since it dates back to 1978, or (b) the assets were not sufficient to justify going to court, and were handled informally, or (c) everything of any significance (real property or property requiring a title such as automobiles, boats or airplanes) was held jointly and title passed automatically to the other party.  If (a), contact the Clerk of Court for the county in which the people lived or any property was held.  If (b), you are out of luck ­ there is no record.  If (c), check the real property records to see what happened.

Re: Name Change Document in NYC #names

David Oseas


I assume that you are referring to Joseph Kirshman.  As you observed, he appears with that name in all documents in the US, such as the 1930 census.

People were free to be known by whatever name they wanted (except for purposes of fraud).  However, his "official" name change would be part of his naturalization, which can be seen here (petition #94732 , 15 Feb 1928):

David Oseas

KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
Hungary > New York
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York  
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

Re: Vital Records for Mariyampil in the Ivano-Frankivsk District from 1857 to 1920 #galicia #records

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>

Your kind offer is greatly appreciated, Mark.

I recently found a treasure trove of letters (1932-39) written to my late father from his parents. Several were from his father, Wolf Aron “Wilhelm”  Stern.   All my dad ever said was that when the Nazis came into Vienna, his dad went “east, to see if he could find a safer place for them.   

My dad said his father had been born in Dolina (or Drohobycz), but I’ve found no documentation of that. These newly found letters reveal that he was in Stanislawow. The return address was Halicka 28 / 6,  Stanislawow. 

I found the 1939 census data which listed a man by my great grandfather’s name,  Hersch Stern, at that same address. [Stanislawow index full Jews-07-07-2018.xlsx  ]  (Wolf Aron “Wilhelm" Stern   was not listed.)  

Hersch had been wed to Chane Feige Hass who, I think, died some years earlier. She was the daughter of Shlomo HASS and Chany WEINREB (WINELEAF) probably of Drohobycz.
My dad was a SHOA survivor, and, like so many others, did not talk about the past. 
I do know that my grandfather Wolf Aron Stern had siblings:  
    Dawid   wed to Basia / Bertha Willgot
    Bernhard wed to  Terri ?

Anything you find would be priceless.

Many thanks, 

Barbara Stern Mannlein
4914 N Bonita Ridge
Tucson, AZ 85750

On Aug 10, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Mark Halpern <mark@...> wrote:

In addition to the online index entries, JRI-Poland has some index entries for Stanislawow that are not online. If you would like a search of those offline indices to identify if your surnames are in those records, please send me a private email with your surnames. 

Re: Lazarus Finkelstein #lithuania #records

Sherri Bobish

Have you looked for Lazarus (Eleazar) Finkelstein in old city directories?

Is there an address of last residence on his death cert?  You can find that address on the 1910 federal census, and hope that he lived there in 1910.

Did he live with a son or daughter or other relative that you can look for in the census?


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: Hebrew Given name on headstone #translation

Dahn Cukier

One must remember most headstones were not composed by the deceased,
the person ordering the stone may not know the official name. Especially if
not family. But even family, my father's cousin told me her first name is not
Miriam, but that is the name everyone, including her children, new her as.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 03:56:05 PM GMT+3, <> wrote:

Sheintche the daughter of Reb Reuven. It is Yiddish and probably the diminutive of Sheineh.  Sheine means beautiful in Yiddish and the Hebrew equivalent would be "Yaffa".

DNA privacy dilemma #dna

Steve Stein

High on my Ancestry DNA match list, there is a young man who I do not know and cannot identify, and has not yet responded to me. Here is what I know about him.

  • He matches me at 234cM total, with 10 matching segments, high enough not to be significantly influenced by endogamy
  • On my sorted list, he is nestled comfortably among my known full-blooded 2nd cousins, above 3 of them (ranging from 170cM to 266cM total)
  • He is listed as 31% European Jewish
  • We share matches with 3 known cousins on my paternal grandmother's family tree
  • He has an Unlinked tree online with only himself in it
  • I have tried to contact him twice, he has not responded

When he did not respond, I tried to construct his ancestor tree using public resources as well as If I have done this correctly,  I have identified all 8 of his great-grandparents, and they all appear to be not Jewish, and none from the New York area where my family was located. This leads to two possibilities, in my mind.

  • I made a mistake in his genealogy. Possible but the names are pretty uncommon
  • He is a descendant of a non-paternity event. If my research is correct, he already knows that by virtue of his ethnic analysis at the very least.

I know of only one person on my paternal grandmother's branch who migrated to the state where he grew up in an early enough timeframe to have that event or one of his sons had it. All of my grandmother's nephews and nieces stayed in the New York area except for that one. The subject's history appears to be mostly on the west coast.

I am tempted to drop the matter, as there doesn't appear that there is much to be gained by potentially revealing the suspected event if i am correct. I am interested if anyone has any alternate strategies. TIA.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA

Re: Online trees #general

Eva Lawrence

One thing that has just become clear to me is that a lot of the
difficulties of JewishGen users with Geni may be due to a language
problem. Geni was historically run to a great extent by German
volunteers, though more recently it has become much more Anglicised and
also fussier about accuracy.
As for the ideological difficulty of not controlling you own family
tree, it's one I have as well, particularly as I prefer to call my
female ancestors by the names they were born with,a feminist habit I
picked up when looking at the ones in various old French-German
records.. So I do confuse all the Geni and Ancestry people unless I'm
careful. But basically, the two aren't mutually exclusive. One can do
both if one has the software on one's own computer rather than on a site
in the cloud which one doesn't administer. and which one has to pay for
the service into the bargain.
It's only this year that I've heard about the large amount of research
being done by members of Geni and MH in little-known (by me) European
archives, and that of course might be worth aa subscription.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Records for Werner and Eisenhandler families for Nowe Miasto and Ulanov #poland #ukraine


For some time I have been researching my husband's cousin's family (Werner and Eisenhandler). The family lived for a time in Nowe Miasto and Ulanov before settling in Vienna. I have been told about Ulanow, near Nisko, Poland. Which official organization should I contact to find Werner/Eisenhandler records?
it appears there are a number of towns called Nowe Miasto, meaning New Town. Given the family travels, I think I can limit my research to the following three:
- Novoye Misto, near Dobromil, Ukraine
- Nove Mesto nad Vahom, about 50 mi,es from Vienna
- Nove Misto, Lviv Oblast, Ukraine 82022.
i imagine I may have to contact several organizations in order to find the records I need. Does anyone know how I should progress? This is turning out to be a much more difficult task than I realized!
Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Maggie Jacobs

Re: HEN family #general

Emily Rosenberg

Victoria Hen was murdered while she worked at the El Al counter at the Los Angeles airport in 2002. There is a memorial to Vicki and her El Al colleague who was also murdered by an Egyptian male. There was lots of press about this outrageous incident and perhaps in contacting some of her family in Israel you will learn more.

Re: Ancestry purchased by Blacksone #announcements

Jeff at SG

Anytime you put anything on the internet you lose control of it and what may one day become of it. That is inherent in that media. Regardless of what the 'small print' may or may not say.

The advantages of placing family trees on the web have been described by many. Loss of control and privacy issues are among the major disadvantages. 

Jeff Malka

Re: Ancestry purchased by Blacksone#announcements

From: Tockuss1@...Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:56:26 EDT

I am not sure if this this is a good news. A just profit orientated company buys one of the main genealogy websites. They would not do it if they don't see a chance to make more money. Hope the simple idea of knowing more about ancestors of the thousands of family researchers is not in conflict with this new structure in ownership.......

Re: Port of Marseille (France) 1941 shipping records & passenger lists #france #germany

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,

Dear Oliver,

As soon as I read about Jewish German refugees in Marseille in 1941 who could board a ship to Portugal, then USA, I ask myself this question: was Varian Fry involved in their salvation?

I attach a link to his page, as this isn't a very well known story, unfortunately!

Now, how to answer your question ?

I have sent a message to the Archives of Marseille, I come back to you when they reply.

Sincerely yours

Bernard Flam

Archives et histoire du Centre Medem - Arbeter Ring of France (Bund, Workmen Circle)

Name Change Document in NYC #names

Wendy Packer

I'm looking for an official name change document for an ancestor who arrived in NYC from Poland in 1923. His Polish name (Herszman) is listed on the ship manifest, and all subsequent documents list his American name (Kirshman). Trying to track down when/if he officially changed his name. Thank you!
Wendy Packer
Researching in Poland: Herszman, Cohen, Bojm/Baum, Goldcwajg

Re: Diabetes and antisemitism around 1900: cultural history #education


I am an adding this link to a disturbing journal article about the anti-Semitic developer of insulin Dr. Frederick Banting.  I imagine the author of this new book must refer to him but here is the stark portrait of the man.

MyHeritage Free Access Photo Enhancer and MyHeritage in Color Through September 10, 2020 #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen




MyHeritage is offering free access to its MyHeritage Photo Enhancer and MyHeritage in Color products from August 11- September 10, 2020.  This is a way your old, faded family photographs will come to life in color and sharp focus.


Normally these products are available to nonsubscribers with up to 10 photos each while Complete Plan users have unlimited use. But with this promotion anyone can enhance and colorize as many photos they would like for free during the time of the offer.


For MyHeritage Photo Enhancer go to:

For My Heritage in Color go to:


I have no affiliation with MyHeritage and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Did my father have a guardian? #records


My father, originally Louis Slonimsky (bc wrongly says Slominsky) and later Lawrence Slonimsky and then Larry Sloan, was orphaned at age 9 in January, 1927.  He lived in Manhattan. After his mother died, he lived with various aunts and uncles on his father's side, his father having died in 1917.  I never thought to ask if anyone had legal guardianship or custody of him, but I wonder if I can find out now.  What NYC court would have such records and how would I go about finding them? Also, did NYC have a 5 year census after 1925?  Census records would help pinpoint with whom he lived. Thanks in advance for any help. 

Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

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