Re: Name Change Document in NYC #names

See question below.

Names can be changed when applying for naturalization.  The naturalization application would be the first place to look.  Otherwise, the name change is done in a court procedure, which may be harder to find.  Also, be aware that in Russian, there is no "H" sound  - it is pronounced like "G".(or possibly a "k" sound)  "Sz"     is pronounced as "sh",  so this seems to be a spelling change rather than a name change. 

10a.  Name Change Document in NYC #names
From: Wendy Packer
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:35:30 EDT
I'm looking for an official name change document for an ancestor who arrived in NYC from Poland in 1923. His Polish name (Herszman) is listed on the ship manifest, and all subsequent documents list his American name (Kirshman).


Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

Mexico City Jewish cemeteries to get a picture #photographs

Neil Rosenstein

Looking for help to contact Mexico City cemeteries and a volunteer to
take an epitaph picture
Neil Rosenstein

Re: Wedding between Sadie /SarahZiff and Charlie Abrams in Manchester? #unitedkingdom

Sherri Bobish


Try searching British newspapers from that time, especially local papers from where Charlie Abrams lived.  There may have been an article about the wedding.

Many old newspapers are digitized and searchable on-line.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Avigdor family of Forest Hills and Brooklyn, NY #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with the family of Dr. Neftuli Zvi Avigdor (son
of Abraham Boby of Mexico City), first cousin of David, Morton
(Mordechai) and Merrill (Mayer) Avigdor, descendants of the Rabbinical
Avigdor family of Mexico and of the Ropshitz Chassidic Dynasty

trying to find: Saletea / Saleteca, Poland - #lithuania #poland #belarus

Neil J. Young

My family is from Brest-Litovsk.  According to one of the family member's Naturalization papers which were prepared in 1903, it clearly indicates he was born in "Saletca" a town in Poland in 1873.  I have not been able to locate a town called "Saletca".  It appears to be spelled Saleteca to me, but indicates the place was spelled Seletea.  Any assistance or insights would be appreciated of where this town is located or what other town they could have been referring to?

Brest-Litovsk is close to the Belarus / Poland border that area has been part of Grodno guberniya during the period of the Russian Empire and at time before and after part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Poland, Soviet Union and Belarus.  So it wasn't surprising to see he was born in Poland, but where is Saletca?

Neil J Young
San Francisco, CA

Zaidman family in Kopaygorod #ukraine


Is the Zaidman family name included as residents of Kopaygorod in the late19th and early 20th centuries?

Re: Baku Ajerbijan #records

Joan Parker

Does anyone know how to find death records from Baku in the 1920's. There does not seem to be much out there about Ajerbijan

I will send your email to a friend who has an interest in Baku. We came across one another when the Miami Herald back in 1997 published an article about a Jewish culture surviving 2000 years in Sloboda.  What caught my eye was the surname of my MIL (Gelfand) in the article at a mission in Baku.. A mutual friend contacted him and she wrote in an email that there was a JGS in Baku. Bear in mind that is from 1997.The president was Mikhail Agavrunov.  .  You might also want to see what if anything is in the JewishGen archives.
Joan Parker
Past President/Archivist
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
1) GOLDBERG/ GOULD, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN, BERGER, GERBER/CRAWFORD, JAGODA-Lipno, Plonsk, Plock, Poland-Russia; Warsaw, Poland-Russia; Galveston, TX; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY, Portland, OR, Los Angeles/Hollywood, CA.
2)  PARKER/PINKUS, WINOGRAD, (GERSHO-BEROVNA?)., R0SEN, -Brest (Litovsk), Belarus; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY. WEISS, NEIKRUG, DEL PINO--Brooklyn, NY.  RABWIN--Hollywood, CA, Salt Lake City, UT. CLAYTON-California.
3) GELFAND, KRITZOFF, KATZ, TROCK --Berezin/Bresin, Kodima, Minsk, Belarus, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

Re: Additional 19th C. Vilna City record sources – Archival Records of the Merchant class #lithuania

Joel Ratner

I'm sorry to say the answer is no. 


Re: Town Finder my district #education



In Town Finder search for a town in the district or government you want.   Then in the boxes on the right you will see underlined district and "province" names.

Click on the the district or province c1930 or c1900 as you want and up comes a list of all the relevant towns in Town Finder in the district or province as selected.

Paul Hattori
London UK

MINDEL, MINDELL from Utena and Vyzuonos, Lithuania
FELLER from Pabrade, Lithuania

Images for Indexed Projects? #hungary #romania

Don Engel

I'm so grateful for the work all the JewishGen volunteers do in indexing files.

For some indexes - at the moment, I'm looking at the Máramaros Vital Records Births index - the images don't seem to be publicly available anywhere. They were taken by (I think) a camera of the original books by a JewishGen volunteer.

I'm unclear on whether there's a good way to request the original image under such circumstances. For example, I know that my third-great-grandparents were "Jack Heimowitz" Zelig Heimowitz (in the index, Zelig Chaimovits) and "Lena Stern" of Kabola Csarda, Máramaros, Romania... The quoted versions are what appear in their children's records in America (Zelig and Lena didn't come to America themselves). The index shows a father named Zelig Chaimovits (with various close variations of the last name) on the birth records of seven children. The mother's name varies between Lane (x3), Lenye, Lana, and Seine (x2). I *think* these might all be the same mother, but it would be great to see the original image so I can see if the "S" and "L" are written is such a way that they would be easily confused with each other. The kids were all born 1851-1864, and Sene is the mother's name in (only) the first and last birth.

I don't mean to ask an overly specific question (although that's what motivating me to post this), but am (also) more generally interested in the etiquette/process around seeing the images (if that's at all possible) which were used to create a FamilySearch index.

- Don

Re: Additional 19th C. Vilna City record sources – Archival Records of the Merchant class #lithuania

Sue Brundage

Does this include merchants from Malat/Moletai? 

Re: Ungvar (Uzhhorod) birth records #hungary #general


Try contacting Baruch Huber from Ungvar. 
His email :huberbelay@...

All the best 
Mark Friedman 

Re: Researching meaning of surname from Ukraine #ukraine #names


Myshmar is a Hebrew Word that means "Watch". In the Talmud it refers to either a Cohen (mainly) or Levite (also)
but it has come to mean those "on guard." In fact, in the Yeshiva Movement, studying Torah late into the evening over the weekend
was called "Myshmar" (spelled nowadays Mishmar), as those students were "on guard" for the rest of the population.

surname LOBEL #general #romania


I just learned why my research for LOBEL in Roman, Romania dead-ended. The name LOBEL that my uncle assured me always had been Lobel, was not accurate. E.G., mostly it was first name and then son of Lieb. Other times it was Leiba, Leibil or Leibovici. Luc Radu researches old Moldova area, and he found a trove of birth, death and marriage documents showing how the Lobel name evolved. (He also translated each  for me.) He explained that my ancestors were illiterate (signed docs with thumbprints) and spoke mostly Yiddish. When a government clerk recorded a birth, death, etc., he would write the name as it sounded to him through my ancestors' likely heavily accented Romanian. I am telling you this story, because you might run into the same issue as mine, and a researcher can make all the difference. 
Chicago suburb

Re: DNA privacy dilemma #dna

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

"He matches me at 234cM total, with 10 matching segments, high enough not to be significantly influenced by endogamy"

I have a match, 450+ cM, who is no way we can determine related to me. Her ancestors didn't even live near any of mine, and I have a huge tree with all sorts of countries. Since your match doesn't answer you, don't suffer; endogamy rules us all.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Help with name of Mecie #names

Richard Stower

Is anyone familiar with the given name, “Mecie”? Is it a male or female name? Is it a diminutive?

Thank you.

Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine

Researching: SECHESTOWER (or variations), THAU, SPIERMAN, GRAFFITI (or variations) in Kolomea. GROSS, FELLNER, HOCHMAN/HOCKMAN in Chortkiv. KANNER, SCHMIDT (or variations), WERNER in Dobrowa Tarnowska.

Baku Ajerbijan #records


Does anyone know how to find death records from Baku in the 1920's. There does not seem to be much out there about Ajerbijan.

Re: Port of Marseille (France) 1941 shipping records & passenger lists #france #germany

Pierre HAHN

I left France from Barcelona to Lisbon and eventualy New York in August 1941
Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco

Wedding between Sadie /SarahZiff and Charlie Abrams in Manchester? #unitedkingdom

Lesley Simpson

I am writing a book about my grandfather Lewis Ziff born in 1902 in Edinburgh. His sister Sarah Ziff,  born 1898 in Edinburgh nicknamed Sadie married the British amatuer golf champion Charlie Abrams and I am trying to find out when and where the wedding was. My grandmother  Manchester Cissie Marks (born in Manchester)  met my grandfather Lewis Ziff at this wedding and they travelled to Canada where they were married in 1930 in Toronto.
Lesley Simpson
Department of Humanities
Israel and Golda Koschitzky Centre for Jewish Studies
York University 

Re: Town Finder my district #education

Alan Shuchat

For Ukraine, one way is to go to the Ukraine Research Division. There is a map showing the various gubernias. Click on one and you'll see a map of the gubernia and a list of the districts and main towns. You can click further and drill down. You can also go to (in Chrome you can translate this to English automatically) and click on a gubernia name and drill down. For Lithuania, go to
and you'll see the districts and major towns in each gubernia.
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

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