Trying to figure out which Radomyshl" my family is from #ukraine #poland


Good Afternoon,

I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I've discovered some family immigration records from the turn of the 20th century. I know who the family members are and can figure out their names. However, I have run into a slight issue - the immigration paperwork says they're from the town of Radomyshl. However, in my research, I've discovered that there are several towns called Radomyshl, one in Ukraine and one in Poland. They're about 700 km apart.  I doubt the early 20th century American immigration officials really knew which Radomyshl my ancestors were coming from, but I am trying determine which one - my  (now deceased) family members listed Russia as the country of origin, which leads me to believe they are from the Ukrainian one. But I am not sure, because we've always heard that we were Galitzianers, which would lead me to think Poland. 

Any tips or guidance would be greatly appreciated! 

Thanks, Ben (Washington, DC)

Seeking PANE, Joseph Daughter, NYC attorney in 1977 #names #usa

JoshPane Sacramento

i am seeking daughter ( my sister by another Mother ) of PANE Joseph jr. of Sacramento CA.  In 1977 she was an attorney in NYC and she sought to meet her father, PANE Joseph via a card. 

We don’t know her name. 

josh pane
brother in Sacramento CA

Teresa Pane of Bonny Doon, CA
Sister by a different Mother

Isaac KATZOFF,KATSOF-died1934 #canada

Yonatan Ben-Ari

While researching my paternal forefathers I came across on FTJP a
Isaac KATZOFF-KATSOF who I believe may be connected to our family.
Interestingly he is listed with the same exact spelling as our family
,KATZOFF, though his descendants spell it KATSOF. The data I saw was
from 2000 so possibly the contact person is not the same person today.

He had a son Joe (died 1984) whose wife, Rose died in 1981 . They may
have spent some time in Montreal.

If anyone is doing research on this family I would like very much to
share information.


Yoni Ben-Ari (Katzoff), Jerusalem

Re: "Holy Silence" Documents Vatican's Role in the Holocaust #announcements #holocaust


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Jeri Friedman

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North Adams, Massachusetts - early Jewish settlers #usa

Andy Monat

Has anyone researched the early Jewish settlers in North Adams, Massachusetts? It is a small city in far northwestern Massachusetts, in northern Berkshire County among the Berkshire Mountains. My relatives (from Orsha, in what was then Mogilev guberniya Russia, and now is in Belarus) arrived in North Adams certainly by the late 1890s and probably by the early 1890s.

Congregation Beth Israel in North Adams maintains a web page about its history ( which says "An unsigned history found in the synagogue indicates that the first Jews arrived in North Adams in 1867...we've discovered newspaper accounts of their High Holiday services in 1888." If it's true that Jews first arrived in 1867, then I assume a systematic review of US census records from 1870 and 1880 is likely to find them (presumably other records would be of use as well, such as vital records, town census books, etc).

 Andy Monat <amonat@...>

Researcher in Warsaw wanted #warsaw

Amos Sobel 4X4MF

I am looking for a researcher which will be able to overcome the following statement: 
" i
n response to the e-mail letter of 3 July 2020, I kindly inform you that the registry offices in Poland do not carry out genealogical searches and records of related persons and the register of civil status (births, marriages and deaths) kept in the registry offices are not publicly available. [1] Genealogical research is only possible after the civil status books have been transferred from the registry office to the territorially competent state archive, since only after the state register has been transferred to the public archives that they become publicly available. [2] The deadlines for keeping the books in registry offices are 100 years for the books of birth and 80 years for marriage and death records respectively. "

Which was made by:

Registry Office

Capital City of Warsaw

3rd Faculty of Registration of Civil Status and Zabużański Books

Zabużański Books Section

I need the researcher to find the birth records of my cousins born in Stryj and Rozniatow , Galicea between 1925 and 1942 before the records are 100 years old and I am gone.

All help will be appreciated

Amos Sobel
Haifa Israel


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

EdrieAnne Broughton

Larry Gaum, 
 Let's talk about how a suit is put together.  There is, even today, no completely machine-made garments.  Since the middle of the 19th century there was some kind of mechanized sewing machine that still had to be operated by a skilled sewer.  Some of the steps at the time and even now have to be done by hand. At first they were driven by steam power, later by electricity.  Home sewing machines came out for housewives in the mid to late 1800s, using foot treadles, and those switched to electricity in the mid 1900s.  Even today our garments are made by some poor lady in a third world country, paid next to nothing so we can wear jeans that look already worn out.
   Cutters in the major garment making areas of the US usually referred to someone cutting a pattern from some kind of fabric (cloth, leather, felt, etc).  Those who cut gems usually specified 'gem cutter'.  Cutters might take a design from the person who had the original idea and add 'ease' to the areas we require to be able to move in a garment.  This is a very intricate process, say an inch here and 1 1/2 inches there.  Less if they are tight fitting jeans, more if they are slacks that have to fit well at the top and fall straight to the floor.  It's a science called pattern drafting and can take years to learn.  Other cutters (most of them) take the drafted pattern and make the most of the fabric at hand.  
    I was 5 ft 8in by the time I was 12 (Mom was barely 5 ft).  I learned to draft patterns really young.  Then I married a man with a large chest and shoulders and a very small waist.  I've been drafting patterns for more than 50 years so he wouldn't look like a pregnant lady, or have lots of material bunched into his waistband.
                            EdrieAnne Broughton, California

Utah JGS August 17 Meeting #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Banai Lynn Feldstein

For our August meeting, UJGS has invited Emily Garber, brand new IAJGS Board member, to speak to us.

Her topic is very timely: Learning Our Craft: Online Opportunities for Improving Our Research Skills.

We invite anyone interested to join us for our webinar:

The webinar is scheduled for two hours, but it should be about one hour; we just like to give ourselves the extra padding.

Banai Lynn Feldstein
Utah JGS Webmaster

Confusing Information on Towns in Lithuania #belarus #lithuania

Jay Paul

The first information that I had on one of my mother’s family branches, the SUMBERGS, was that they came from Pilviskiai. That has been confirmed by a variety of sources. She married my great-grandfather, who was known as Jacob LEIBSON in the USA. His older brother (by two years), who came to the USA after him, had the name Hyman KOTLER; we think that the disparity in surnames may be due to my great-grandfather taking the name Leibson as his father’s name was Shimon Leib/Shimon Yehude on gravestones and other documents. But that is not the focus of my query.

I do not have any naturalization documents for my great-grandfather. However, in his brother’s petition for naturalization, he lists his birthplace as Trob, Russia (today Traby, Belarus). His last residence, and the birthplace of his wife and several children, was Vistytis. Vistytis is relatively close to Pilviskiai, but Traby is quite a distance (obviously) from the towns of both of the wives of Jacob Leibson and Hyman Kotler. 

Was this likely? Was it at all common that a family would move that far away from one hometown to another? On JewishGen, I have noted 3 researchers who specify that they are seeking Kotlers/Cutlers from Traby, Belarus, as well as others searching that name from Belarus. The Kotlers in Lithuania who are being asked about on JewishGen are primarily in Vilnius. But what would prompt a move so far away? Any ideas? It seems very uncommon.


Jay Paul
San Francisco, CA 94117

Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), LEIBSON (Lithuania), WOLF (Austro-Hungary), SCHWARZ (Austro-Hungary), STERN (Austro-Hungary).

Jay Paul, PhD
San Francisco CA 94117
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary).

Re: MyHeritage Free Access Photo Enhancer and MyHeritage in Color Through September 10, 2020 #announcements

N. Summers

I just tried this feature and it worked really well to enhance some passenger manifests that had handwriting which was faint and difficult to read. So it's usefulness is not just for photos of people. Do give it a try.

Nancy Summers

Maryland, USA


FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine)

LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus)

LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)

Re: Conference Handout for Bialystok Area Jewish Genealogy Group Session #JewishGenUpdates

Mark Halpern

Dear Karen:

Here is a link to David Sohn's Bialystoker Photo Album.

Best regards,
Mark Halpern


On 2020-08-16 11:23 am, Karen Lefkowitz wrote:

Do you have the link to the Bialystoker album at the NYPL?
Karen Lefkowitz

Grandmother Fannie SHORE born in Libau, Latvia, Russian Empire #latvia

Roberta Lipitz

Am trying to find any records (birth, family history, etc.) for my Grandmother Fannie/maiden name Shore born 1887.  Her Father was Hersche Shore and Mother was Lina Freedman/Friedman-Shore.

They emigrated to Jaffa, Palestine (date unknown) . They left Jaffa in July 1903 and I have the ship's manifest from Ellis Island attesting to this.

I am hitting the "brick wall" of any information from Latvia and help of any kind is much appreciated.

Roberta Lipitz, Cherry Hill, NJ  rlipitz@...

Re: Schewach family in Bialystok #poland

Mark Halpern

Dear Loryn:

I am the Bialystok area coordinator for JRI-Poland. I have searched our online database that includes all Bialystok Jewish vital records though 1905 including the years 1885-1892 and cannot find any records of the children of Josef and Ethel. There are many SZEWACH record indices both online and in our offline collection covering years after 1905. These record indices are not yet in our online collection. The closest I find is a 1907 birth of Ber KLATNICKI son of Abram ben Aron/Boruch from Lopenice/Wolkowysk and Pesza SZEWACH daughter of Iosel. 

It is very possible that the family lived in Bialystok before immigration and the children were born elsewhere. Have you found any US records with town of birth for the children?

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Bialystok Area Coordinator


On 2020-08-16 10:31 am, Loryn Hudson via wrote:

I am looking for records on Josef Pinchas Schewach (@1865-@1922),  his wife Ethel Kletinitski Borrison (@1865-?), and their children, Chai Schewach (1885-1936), Dore Schewach (1889-1964),  Borukh Schewach (1891-1941, and Rebeckah Schewach (1892-1950).  All of the children were born in Bialystok, Poland and came to the US.  Ethel and Joseph might have originally come from Belarus in the Grodno area (Luuna?).  Their immigration records (1905-1908) to NYC indicate the last city they lived in was also Bialystok.

Loryn Hudson

Re: Searching for Harry and Morris Sokolovsky/Sokoloff/Sokolow in the USA #usa

Rochelle Gershenow

Since I wrote the email regarding searching for Harry and Morris I had a breakthrough and found them due to a communication from a descendant of Morris.  He was in touch with his relative who, it turned out, had a small handwritten tree.  The information in the tree was enough to connect his Harry and Morris to my family.  Harry had died in 1902 although his death information had his birthdate off by two years and the incorrect given name for his mother.  Harry had married.  He and his wife had four children.  He died in California in 1933.

Rochelle Gershenow

How do I access the actual image at the Lithuanian historical archive #lithuania


Hi all,
I am looking for a way to be able to access the actual photo at the LVIA. Do the other numbers mean something?
Any help would be fully appreciated.

Elani L. Joseph 

Help Finding Listing/Ads/Pictures of Lodz Shoe Store, early 1900s #poland #lodz



My great-grandfather, Icek-Hersz Grynberg, had a shoe shop in Lodz pre-WWII. Attached to the shop was apparently a factory and warehouse where the shoes were assembled, and people worked piecemeal at their homes to prepare the leather. My grandfather had said once that the shop was located "near the main section of the city, near the boulevard where the elegant shops were."

Does anyone know where he might have talked about or where I can find documents about his business? I am curious to learn if there are any ads for or images of the shop/factory/warehouse.

Thank you,
Andrew Cooke

Re: Conference Handout for Bialystok Area Jewish Genealogy Group Session #JewishGenUpdates

Karen Lefkowitz

Do you have the link to the Bialystoker album at the NYPL?
Karen Lefkowitz

Cele MARCUS, mother of Hannah STEINER #ukraine

Carol Jean Weightman

Does Cele Marcus belong in anyone’s family tree?
This photograph is in my grandmother’s album.
The sitter is labelled as Cele MARCUS, mother of Hannah STEINER.
Neither of these names have come up in my research.
The photo is from a studio in Odessa, taken probably after 1884 as that is the latest date on the logo on the reverse side of the photo.
Cele Marcus may have been born in the 1860s, 1870s, or 1880s.
It would be good to know who she was and to find her a family.
Best wishes

Re: Answer to question about Christine Usdin's census translations that was asked during the Latvia SIG meeting on Thursday #latvia

Ellen Caplan

Stephen Weinstein,
You wrote "At there are the links to occupation-based pages that I listed at the top of the this post and then there are an even larger number of geographic-based links (over 100) that go to a paywall . . . .  If you recognize any of the names on the list as someone you know, you may be able to contact them and ask if they still have links that still work."

* The Dvinsk Rabbis, Cantors and Ritual Slaughterers
* Doctors, feldshers, dentists and pharmacists
* The houses of prostitution
* List of the Jews who lived in Dvinsk, but were born or/ and registered in Vishki.
* List of teachers, melameds and pupils in Dvinsk 

I am listed as a donor during that period, and I am able to access the links to these occupation-based pages.
Is JewishGen able to access these pages, and therefore enter the information into the data base? If not, will someone "collect" the information from those of us who had donated to Christine Usdin's effort and therefore still have access?

Ellen Caplan
Ottawa, Canada
Researching: EISENBERG, NAGLER, GINIGER, KLINGER: Mielnica, Ustye Biscupie, & Zalescie, Galicia; BREGER, LIEBMAN: Gomel & area, Belarus; PARADISGARTEN,  SOLOMON: Tukums & Mitau, Latvia

Re: Need help finding information about family from Khiton in Bessarbia #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan

Hello Rick,  Hello everybody,

These are interesting questions, that is why I am replying to the whole group.

It is not clear if you did any searches at the JewishGen / Romania (Bessarabia) Database....
I just tried a bit and found that we have a record from 1895 about your family name and that they were brewers...

Vsia Rossiia 1895 Business Directory


Searching for Surname (phonetically like) : BUKARESKY
1 matching record found.
Run on Sun, 16 Aug 2020 07:59:04 -0600

Surname Given Name Patronymic Occupation Year Column # Town
BUKARESKII     brewer 1895 56 Khotin



Also there are many other records for that family in Khotin, like Voting list with 14 such records.
What is very interesting that there are 5 Birth records from Novoselitsa for this family name.  There are total of 70 matches.

I would suggest to do a search for this family name and look into each record closely.

You had also a question about a discrepancy, that family was from Novoselitsa, but in some documents it was written Khotin. 
Here is explanation.  Khotin is a town,  but also a district (uezd in Russian), and Novoselitsa is part of Khotin district.  Also Novoselitsa is not far from Khotin.   In documents some said that they are from Bessarabia, others would say from Khotin...  probably some would say - Russia.

You also wrote in the beginning of your message that family came from what was, at the time, either Russia or Romania.  I would say that here it was Russian Empire, and Bessarabia was a province in Russian Empire. 
There is more interesting fact about  Novoselitsa.  The whole Khotin district was part of Moldova Principality until 1774 when the whole region of Bukovina was annexed by Austro-Hungary Empire, that included district of Khotin, but in 1812 the region Bessarabia went to Russia...  and at that time border between Austro-Hungary and Russia went thru town of Novoselitsa.  It was like that until 1918.  Well, because your family wrote Khotin... that means that they lived in Russian (Bessarabia) part of Novoselitsa.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan

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