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Re: Birth/marriage/census records in Oberwart, Hungary #hungary

JPmiaou@...
 

The 1828 property census listed the names of heads of household of tenant farmers, craftsmen, merchants, etc. (I think basically one name per dwelling.) None of the names in Felsőőr (Felső-Eőr) are marked as Jewish:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK8-N7PN-3?i=551&cat=231564
(Film # 008144508 images 552 to 559)

FamilySearch also has materials from mid-18th century attempts at enumerating all the Jews in the kingdom: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/395728
It's supposedly in order by county name (in Latin), but I found T before S, and then something labeled Békés (which isn't even supposed to be included). I don't know if there's an index available anywhere. (Even just by place would help.)

The Roman Catholic diocese in Eisenstadt has joined the (fee-based) online records bandwagon, but they have not yet gotten to Oberwart: https://matriken.at/node/24

Julia
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JewishGen Discussion Group Using the Reply and Like Features. PLEASE PRINT OUT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE #JewishGenUpdates

Phil Goldfarb
 

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Re: surname Morpurgo #names

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Rachel Morpurgo

An Italian Hebrew poet, the first woman in the renaissance of Hebrew poetry and literature that began at the end of the eighteenth century. Born Rachel Luzzatto, in 1790 into the famous rabbinic and literary family in Trieste. Her cousin was Shmuel David Luzzatto – Shadal. Her husband was Jacob Morpurgo, an Austrian-Jewish, merchant, so we can see that the name Morpurgo came from the German speaking area.

More information about Rachel Morpurgo is here: https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/morpurgo-rachel

Eyal Hollander,
Israel


Re: SELIG, and WOLFF/ BLUMENTHAL #germany

Andreas Schwab
 

Do you have Benno's death record? I t would mention his birth place. Use the following form to obtain the death record. 
https://www.marchivum.de/sites/default/files/2019-07/Antragsformular_Historische_Personenrecherche.pdf
Send it to marchivum@...
For more details visit
https://www.marchivum.de/sites/default/files/2019-07/Folder_Historische%20Personenrecherche.pdf
You can also contact the archivists:
Doreen Kelimes

Tel: +49 (0)621 / 293 - 7724
doreen.kelimes@...

Désirée Spuhler
Tel: +49 (0)621 / 293 - 7731
desiree.spuhler@...

Andreas Schwab


Gesher Galicia: Interview of Renowned Historian and Author Omer Bartov #poland #ukraine #holocaust #galicia #announcements

Steven Turner
 

Dear Friends,
Gesher Galicia is thrilled to offer for our members a new entry in our webinar series, a conversation between the noted author Omer Bartov and our President, Steven Turner. Any person interested in the history of Galicia and the wars promulgated on those lands will not want to miss this presentation. There was so much material to cover that we have broken up the interview into two segments:
Part 1 - Erased and World War I
Part 2 - WW II and the Holocaust

Omer Bartov has been the John P. Birkelund Distinguished Professor of European History at Brown University since 2000 and chaired the Department of History in 2009-2012. Bartov has won numerous distinguished fellowships from such institutions as the Israel Institute for Advanced Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. His book, Anatomy of a Genocide: The Life and Death of a Town Called Buczacz, which won the 2018 National Jewish Book and the Yad Vashem International Book Prize for Holocaust Research. Some of Bartov's other books include Erased: Vanishing Traces of Jewish Galicia in Present-Day Ukraine (2007), and Voices on War and Genocide: Three Accounts of the World Wars in a Galician Town (2020).

This presentation is recorded and on our Members Portal for members to view at their convenience.

Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link.
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Please email Gesher Galicia at info@... with any questions or comments.

Enjoy the webinar series, one of many benefits of your membership in Gesher Galicia. Please stay tuned for an exciting lineup of programs to follow.

Sincerely,
Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia


Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

" I sent a request to support@... asking what steps I should take to go about correcting the spelling of the names of my grandparents in the Vienna Marriages database."

Your first problem is that spelling wasn't 'correct' or 'wrong'. Clerks wrote what they heard. Sometimes they wrote the same thing differently if a name occurred in a record twice.

The second problem is that records say what they say. This is not Geni or a Wiki where everybody fixes things; the records are the records. If they are wrong, they are wrong.

You might want to quote the record in your family tree and point out other records which conflict with the information.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

I’m looking for an online website that will host my trees for free. I want others to be able to view and use my data and sources, but not to change them.  I want my work to remain intact after I’m gone.

I’d like your opinion of settling on FamilySearch.org, using the above criteria. I’ve already considered JewishGen, Genie, Ancestry and self-publishing. I can export my work from Legacy into a gedcom file. 
Thanks in advance for your opinions. 

Reba Harris Solomon, New York

CHARAS-Tyrawa Woloska, Poland
ZALCMAN, SOLOMON-Nasielsk, Poland
METZGER, KESSELMAN-Ustrzykie Dolne, Poland-Nove Misto, Ukraine - Mostyska, Ukraine
SHRINER-Volochysk, Ukraine
LESANSKI-Berdychiv, Ukraine



Re: Reminder October 2,2020 is When New Obscene USCIS Fees Begin--Now is Time to Order Any Records Before Then #announcements #usa #records

Teewinot
 

Just a reminder that you can always file a FOIA request for an "A-File",
which includes all the papers your ancestor filled out when coming to
the U.S. and their naturalization papers. It's quicker if you have have
the Alien Registration Number, but it's not necessary. You get 2 hours
of research and 100 pages of records for free. Signing the request
means you agree to pay up to $25.00 for time or copies over the free
amount. If it costs more, they'll contact you. I doubt it would.
Everyone is probably going to start doing this once the fees go up. The
government may then change these rules. Who knows?

To get started, go here:

https://www.uscis.gov/records/request-records-through-the-freedom-of-information-act-or-privacy-act

Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida
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RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno,
Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, KLUGMAN, STURMAN,
KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ,
BLAU (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia);
KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia)
KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania);
CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)


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Re: surname Morpurgo #names

Alex Woodle
 

The old Jewish cemetery in Split had a number of Morpugo inscribed tombstones. Many of the Jews in Split stayed behind when Nazis came and perished. Others fled to Italy, some survived, but others were not so lucky. I have some photos of the Morpugo stones. Reply to me if you wish to have copies.

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA


Re: Given name Matus #belarus #lithuania #names #general

Judith Singer
 

Matus is a nickname for Matitayahu (which can be spelled several different ways). It is not the same name as Moshe.
Judith Singer


Re: Goodman family in Montreal #canada

Beth Erez
 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 11:46 AM, Peter Bush wrote:
Searching for possible relatives in Montreal.
From 1911 census
Isaac Goodman, a grocer, born approx 1865 in Russia
2nd wife Jennie formerly Endenzweig/Cohen born approx 1874 in Russia, lived in London,UK prior to her arrival in Canada.
Children Abraham, Jacob, Hyman, Samuel and Fanny born between 1890-1901
Do these names ring any bells?
Thanks, 
Peter Bush
plbush1@...
Yes, I do know some Goodman family in Montreal.  I will send your note to one of them and see what they say.
Beth


Re: Graves in Belz, Ukraine, Jewish cemetery? #rabbinic #ukraine #records

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Several people have written to me about the song "Mein Shtetele Belz," so I am replying publicly about that. I know that song well and love it too. However, although it has come to be associated with "my" Belz, the one in Galicia/Poland/Ukraine, it was apparently originally not written about that town at all, but about Beltz, now called Balti, in Bessarabia/Moldova.

My question remains: Does anyone know of any documentation of the graves in the Belz (Ukraine) Jewish cemetery, other than the famous rabbis' graves? 

All the best,
Miriam BULWAR DAVID-HAY,
Raanana, Israel.


Re: Sons in law's names Abramchik Yossel and Itzik Yossel. #names

ryabinkym@...
 

Yossel is a secondary name, not father's name.  My name is Moishe-Nochum.  Secondary name Nochum.  For Russian a secondary name will be Yosselevich, given to man and women.  For example: Haya Yosselevna, Haya - daugther of Yossel.  In Russia my name will be pronounce: Moishe-Nochum Matveevich, Moishe-Nochum, son of Matvey  


Re: Potashnick family, Velozhin, Belarus #belarus

Patrick Atlas
 

I have a very large POTAŻNIK family from Radom. 

I am wondering if there is any link.

Patrick Atlas


Re: WWII Evacuees LitvakSIG record #lithuania #records

Russ Maurer
 

The description of that record group in the Lithuanian State Central Archive, as translated by Google, is "Lists of persons evacuated from the Lithuanian SSR to the depths of the USSR at the beginning of the German-Soviet war".  It is unlikely there is any further information to be had, as our translators are instructed to do a full extraction of each record. That said, the only way to be sure is to view a copy of the record, which is not online and has to be ordered from the archive. You can do so from this page https://iaps-pub.archyvai.lt/web/guest/aprasu-paieska?p_p_id=inventorysearchportlet_WAR_iapsext2&_facesViewIdRender=%2Fforms%2FinventoryView.xhtml?invType=FILE&invId=266618297 (the page can be rendered in English using the flags at the top right of the page). The file is likely to be quite large but it is unclear how many images it would be. Regrettably, the "family registration number" (R10528) is a translator-assigned number which will be of no use in locating the page for your relative. You could ask them to search for your relative by name, I am not sure whether they will do that. 

 Russ Maurer, Records Acquisition & Translation coordinator, LitvakSIG


Re: List of Victims of Belzec #poland

Rainer Borsdorf
 

Hello,

if you got further information (where did the jews come from, when were they deported), you could search here - or I could help you:

http://statistik-des-holocaust.de/list_ger_mid1.html

Best regards,
Rainer


Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Daniella Alyagon
 

 
There is something to consider when asking for corrections in Indexed record
 
1. If the index does not reflect the actual historic record, usually due to issues figuering out the hand written record or typing issues a correction is warented
 
2. If the original record contains an error it should not be corrected as in the i dex as that will mis represent the indexed record. 
 
3. Information not provided in the original record should not be added to the index for the same reason provided above.
 
If I understand correctly you are asking to add information not present in the actual record and in that case I sincerly hope JewishGen will not do so as it will be misleading for other researchers.
 
In order to explain my last comment about 20 years ago I published a family tree online. This tree contained information I believed to be correct and was picked up by other. Since then I have discovered errors in my original tree and current information is in cotrast with other published family trees. This posses a question as to the correct information. 
 

Daniella Alyagon

Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), YELIN (Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)

 


Re: US Naturalization questions (more or less general) #general #records

Stephen Weinstein
 

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 06:09 AM, Rick Zeckel wrote:
Census data from later years indicate that she was a naturalized citizen. Is it logical to assume that since her parents were not there to include her in a naturalization process that she would have had to become naturalized herself (as opposed to being naturalized by inclusion with someone else's petition)? 
Rick, it is not logical to assume anything based on census records, except possibly that the person shown in the census was already born when the census was taken.  The census records just indicate what someone told the census taker.  They do not indicate whether it is true, and it often isn't.

Stephen Weinstein


legal name change in New York. #general

Richard Gross
 

I'm trying to find out when my husband's relative changed his name from Abraham Epstein to A Lincoln Epworth. He was born in New York ca 1903 and seems to have changed his name before 1930 probably because of antisemitism. As he was an attorney with offices at 1440 Broadway, New York so the name change was most likely official rather than by word of mouth but I can't be sure.
Beulah Gross (Australia). Researching Gross, Jacobs, Sloman in the UK, USA and South Africa


Reminder October 2,2020 is When New Obscene USCIS Fees Begin--Now is Time to Order Any Records Before Then #announcements #usa #records

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

This is a reminder that the fees for all records including genealogy requests through the USCIS are going up on October 2, 2020. If you are planning to order any records this is the time to do so. While USCIS was planning to furlough more than 13,000 employee furloughs Tuesday, that was cancelled. Officials said “unprecedented spending cuts” and a revenue increase allowed the agency to drop the furloughs, but they warned of longer wait times and further backlogs, including for those seeking work permits, green cards or citizenship.  “Averting this furlough comes at a severe operational cost that will increase backlogs and wait times across the board, with no guarantee we can avoid future furloughs,” Joseph Edlow, USCIS deputy director for policy, said in a statement. “A return to normal operating procedures requires congressional intervention to sustain the agency through fiscal year 2021.” It says it will maintain operations through September, when the fiscal year ends. The cuts include nonessential travel and reducing work sent to private contractors who handle paperwork.  The agency’s roughly $4.8 billion budget comes almost entirely from application fees it charges. See: https://vosizneias.com/2020/08/25/us-citizenship-agency-drops-plan-to-furlough-70-of-workers/

 

As I posted back in July, last November, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announced through the Federal Register that they intend to increase the request fees charged by them, including for genealogy services.  Currently, the G-1041 Index Search Request is $65 and form G-1041A Genealogy Records Request is $65. The USCIS proposed to raise the fees to $240 and $385 respectively.  These were a 269 percent and 492 percent change respectively.

 

The USCIS published the final rule on July 31 which will become effective on October 2, 2020. These fee increases range from 146 to  308 percent—still quite substantial. The new fees will be: for Form G-1041, Genealogy Index Search Request, when filed online as $160 and $170 when filed on paper. Using the same methodology refinement, DHS establishes a fee for Form G-1041A, Genealogy Records Request, when filed online as $255 and $265 when filed by paper.”

 

See: https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-16389.pdf. The final rule covers more than genealogy and is quite long –over 570 pages. I did a word search for the term “genealogy: and the following have information of interest for genealogist. The fees portion are included on pages 16-17. Other items of interest are included on pages: 179, 187-203; 415, 419, 428-429; 433-434, 436, 438, 446-448, 461-463, 475, 511-513, 530, 532.

 

They further rationalized the genealogy fee increase by,” INA section 1356(t)(1) authorizes DHS to set the genealogy fee for providing genealogy research and information services at a level that will ensure the recovery of the costs of providing genealogy services separate from other adjudication and naturalization service’s fees. USCIS must estimate the costs of the genealogy program because it does not have a discrete genealogy program operating budget. Nor does USCIS discretely identify and track genealogy program expenditures. The same office that researches genealogy requests, the National Records Center, also performs other functions, such as FOIA operations, retrieving, storing, and moving files. In the FY 2016/2017 fee rule, DHS estimated the costs of the genealogy program indirectly using projected volumes and other information. The projected costs included a portion of Lockbox costs, genealogy contracts, and other costs related to the division that handles genealogy, FOIA, and similar USCIS workloads.” They also responded to one of the genealogy submitters: “USCIS receives fewer than 10,000 genealogy requests each year, so the fees should not affect hundreds of thousands of people as the commenter mentions.”

 

They also commented on the electronic version of records,: “DHS is expanding the use of electronic genealogy requests to encourage requesters to use the electronic versions of Form G-1041 and Form G–1041A. DHS is changing the search request process so that USCIS may provide requesters with electronic records, if they exist, in response to the initial index request. These final changes may reduce the time it takes to request and receive genealogy records, and, in some cases, it will eliminate the need to make multiple search requests and submit separate fees. Moreover, DHS notes that providing digital records in response to a Form G-1041 request may reduce the number of Form G-1041A requests that will be filed because there would already be a copy of the record if it was previously digitized. As a result, the volume of Form G-1041A requests USCIS receives may decrease, though DHS is unable to estimate by how much. .. DHS recognizes that some small entities may be impacted by these increased fees but cannot determine how many or the exact impact. “

 

Note: DHS stands for Department of Homeland Security of which USCIS is under.

 

As with the proposed fee increase USCIS still maintains, “DHS is unable to estimate the number of G-1041 index searches and G-1041A records requests considered small; however, some will receive a reduced fee and savings, by filing online. Therefore, DHS does not currently have sufficient data on the requestors for the genealogy forms to definitively assess the estimate of small entities for these requests. DHS is unable to estimate by how much because DHS does not know how many individuals will have access to a computer and/or internet capability. The case management tracking system used by DHS for genealogy requests does not allow for requestor data to be readily pulled.”

 

 

For a Genealogy Records Request, requests for copies of historical records or files must: (1) Identify the record by number or other specific data used by the Genealogy Program Office to retrieve the record as follows: (i) C-Files must be identified by a naturalization certificate number. (ii) Forms AR-2 and A-Files numbered below 8 million must be identified by Alien Registration Number. (iii) Visa Files must be identified by the Visa File Number. Registry Files must be identified by the Registry File Number (for example, R-12345).

 

Information required for release of records. (1) Documentary evidence must be attached to a Genealogy Records Request or submitted in accordance with the instructions on the Genealogy Records Request form. (2) Search subjects will be presumed deceased if their birth dates are more than 100 years before the date of the request. In other cases, the subject is presumed to be living until the requestor establishes to the satisfaction of USCIS that the subject is deceased. (3) Documentary evidence of the subject's death is required (including but not limited to death records, published obituaries or eulogies, published death notices, church or bible records, photographs of gravestones, and/or copies of official documents relating to payment of death benefits).

 

Fees must be remitted from a bank or other institution located in the United States and payable in U.S. currency. The fee must be paid using the method that USCIS prescribes for the request, office, filing method, or filing location, as provided in the form instructions or by individual notice.

 

If you want to place an order this would be the more cost-efficient time to do so. The forms may be found at: https://www.uscis.gov/genealogy

 

To see previous postings about the USCIS and the fee increases,  go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at:  http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives.  To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts  and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical  organization with whom you are affiliated   You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

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