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Question about town of registration for KEMPER - Salnitsa and Salakhov Ukraine #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

The father and mother are the same for all six birth records recorded in
Starokonstantinov, Ukraine Birth Records. The town "where the father was
from (town of registration)" alternates between Salnitsa and Salakhov.
Year of birth record, surname, town
1893 KEMPA Salkhov
1898 KEMPER Salnitsa
1901 KEMPER Salakhov
1904 KEMPER Salnitsa
1907 KEMPER Salokhov
1911 KEMPER - no town given
I know where Salnitsa is located. I can not find Salakhov (various
translations). Is it related to Salnitsa? Why is town of registration not
the same in all cases? Any ideas?
Barry Chernick, Bellevue, WA


Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

mab@...
 

If you are working on a PC, I would recommend Legacy Family Tree available at https://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/index.php .  
If you are working on a Mac, you have two options: run Reunion available at https://www.leisterpro.com  or run Legacy using Parallels to run this program written for the PC.  If you go to the Legacy website, they have information on how to do the later.

Considerations:
  • Whatever program or website you choose, start by entering a small tree to see how you like it.  Several of the software packages as a free version that you can try.  Until you pay for the full version, there may be limits on the number of people you can enter and the reports you can print out.
  • All genealogy programs have places to enter names, dates, events and sources.  That said, each program has a different user interface.  It is a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer.
  • One thing I particularly like about Legacy, is the way they deal with addresses.  If you entering information from a census they have a natural way to enter addresses (house #, street, town, state...).  Whereas in Reunion, for example, when you enter Census information you have two fields: Location and Memo.  You can enter the full address into the location field, but then you end up with many, many locations, and it is hard to sort them by state or for a mapping program to locate them.  If you enter only the town, county, state in location and use the memo field for the house number and street, then you end up with a more manageable list of locations, and can locate events that happen in the same place more easily.  However, the way this information prints out in reports is awkward. 
  • I would look carefully at what charts and reports they can create as that is one place where they differ.
  • Personally, I did not find the ability to link automatically to Ancestry useful.  The way Ancestry formats source references is AWFUL.  Not only is every other word Ancestry, but they leave out some information that I consider important.  Their branding is so over done that they claim they are the author of such documents as the US Census.  It will take you less time to do the transfer by hand than to clean up their mess.  Also, a manual transfer encourages you to really look at the information to make sure it is applicable to your tree
  • Look at their customer support.  Legacy has the advantage that they have an extensive library of videos both on how to use their software and on general topics of interest to genealogists.
  • On line v. on your computer:
    • I personally fell I have more control over my information if it is on my computer than online.
    • On line involves an ongoing fee to maintain full access to your information.  On your computer, there is a one time cost to purchase the software.
    • Geni is a cooperative tree in which other people can edit the information you enter.
    • Ancestry has a very limited ability to create charts and reports. 
    • I have not had much experience with My Heritage.
  • Backup, backup, backup.  This is a good idea whether you are talking genealogy or just in general.  Whether your tree is online or on your computer, you should always back it up.  For example, if you tree is online at  Ancestry, you should periodically download a gedcom.  If your tree is on your computer, you should periodically save a backup copy (just in case you make changes that you need to later undo) AND you should have a backup off site, in case you computer is. damaged, lost or stolen.  Options for off site backup may be as simple as putting it on a thumb drive and giving it to someone else to keep. Another option, is there are a few commercial products you can purchase that will automatically backup your entire computer.
mab@...


Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

Marcel Apsel
 

To add one remark.  Once I found that My Heritage had information on some members of my family, but I had to pay a subscription to view it.  After a while I realized that this information was my own, which I have found through my own research and passed it on a gedcom file to a far distant cousin who put it on geni without my permission and from there it went to My Heritage.  I still have to laugh when I think I had to pay for information I gathered myself.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Else and anna Stransky from Vienna #austria-czech

Daniela Torsh
 

Thanks to quite a few people who have helped me uncover more information about some distant cousins of my mother's family.
 Else Stransky was born 1882 in Podmokly today Decin in  Czechia. Her mother Lotti and my ggrandmother Wilhelmine LOEBL were sisters in Most, Czechia. Else moved to Vienna with her husband Emil, a banker born in Jablonec,  Bohemia and they had four children there.
One was a daughter Anna born 1907,  who in 1939 fled to London with her mother.
Else and Anna stayed in England until they died in 1975 and 1993 respectively. They were interned for about a year at Rushen camp on the Isle of Man from 1940 and  left without restrictions for Glasgow and then became domestics in Surrey for the Butcher family of five. Later they moved to the Borough of Wandsworth.
They were both cremated at Putney Vale and I now have records for that.
I want to thank Mike Frankl, Martin Dostal, Barrie Blissett-Turner of the Putney Vale crematorium and my friend here in Sydney Robyn Dryen plus an anonymous correspondent.
Daniela Torsh
Sydney, Australia
Researching POLLAK in Bohemia and Vienna, THORSCH in Moravia, Stransky in Vienna


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Marcel Apsel
 

Peter I completely agree with you.  I collect records of people on FamilyTreeMaker in digital version and a printed paper version.  Parallel I also keep filing the same records the old way, simply by classifying them by hand and have it simply printed alphabetically in a word processor.  The printed copies might probably survive, the digital copies only if my children want to keep them with the right program if it still exists, or not throw them away by mistake.  My late sister had it still on classical 3.5 inch floppy disks (luckily I copied them on time on a removable hard disk before I had to get rid of that too old fashioned computer who was able to read those floppy disks).  Try to find today an old 3.5 floppy disk reader (maybe in computer museums). I am afraid that digital copies might disappear on the long run.  Nobody will be able to say that this won’t happen, neither geni, ancestry, wikitree and other genealogical family tree keepers.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

David Mason
 

CDs and DVDs may be the best digital media.  CDs have been used for data for about 30 years, with no incompatibilities with contemporary technology.  This said, there are differences in the raw media.  Some are more archival than others.  Research before you leap!  And if we ever reach a point where the technology has left CDs behind, at least save a compatible drive or two; better an entire system.

 

I certainly would not expect any magnetic media to last more than a decade, while many of us have had flash drives become unusable, well “in a flash”.

 

David Mson


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Max Heffler
 

I also left a hard-bound book version at the genealogical branch of our Houston Public Library, but it likely 10 years or so out of date.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

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David JONASSOHN: Has anyone come across him in their research? #unitedkingdom #germany

wakewalkers@...
 

David JONASSOHN: Has anyone come across him in their research? I need to know where and when David Jonassohn was born in about 1796. It may have been in Groningen, Holland. Who were his parents? Did he have siblings? Presumably the father was called Jonas or Jonathan. David emigrated to Sunderland, England in 1816. I have a lot of details on his life after he arrived in England, but would like any information on his early years. He died in London in 1859, having married Charlotte Bauer in Hamburg in July 1826. David and Charlotte had four children, all born in Sunderland.

Thank you.

 

R Walker, London, England. Reply direct to sender

 


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Jocelyn Keene
 

I also want my tree to survive me.  I have been putting copies of it at different places.  My main and up-to-date tree is at Ancestry, because that is where I find most of my documentation.  I also have copies at MyHeritage and FindMyPast and other places as well.  I currently have memberships at those companies but even if I stop paying, I believe the data will be kept for others to use. Is there a particular reason you rejected Ancestry as an option?  I have avoided putting anything at Family Search because of the baptism issue. I have also avoided collaborative family trees because at one time (decades ago) the Ancestry tree was like that and it was horrible.  People continually messed up my tree.
Jocelyn Keene
Pasadena, California


ViewMate Translation Request - Russian #poland #translation

Jacob Heisler
 

Hi everyone,

I posted three Russian birth records for the ROZENOWICZ family of
Zambrow, Poland on ViewMate. I would really appreciate it if someone
could translate the birth records for me, especially any information
it has on the parents. The records can be found at:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85112
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85113
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85114

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide!

Sincerely,
Jacob Heisler
Norwalk, CT


Obituaries in Paris newspapers #france

boris
 

I am looking for an obituary for an Israeli artist Hannah BEN DOV, who died ca. 4 March 2009 in Paris. Which newspaper(s) would most likely publish it and is it possible to search them online, similar to NYT?

 

Thank you!

 


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Re: legal name change in New York. #general

ewkent@...
 

Hi.

A little bit of follow-up:

1) Thanks to Sherri Bobish for mentioning my find of a published notice of my grandfather's court-approved name change in a newspaper from 1940

(I clicked on that link and searched for "Jay Joseph Kent" -- and got nothing) ;

2) I'm still not clear what happened years later (legally or otherwise) to cause the New York City Department of Health to amend the birth certificate quite a few years later : I don't know if he (or a lawyer) communicated that he was only now using his new name.

(Manhattan telephone books from earlier in the 1940s -- during US involvement in World War II -- accessed via Ancestry.com -- indicate that he was still publicly known as "Joseph Kantor" -- until he decided not to be known by that name any more.

And I do not know if his first wife -- my grandmother -- ever used "Kent" in her name.)

Ethan W. Kent in New York City.

PS: It was only after he died (in 1992) that I learned (possibly my father had not known either) that my grandfather's changed "first" name was "Jay": he was known to me and my brother and sister as "Grandpa Joe", and while his return-address (postal, of course) mailing labels read "J. Joseph Kent", they said nothing about "Jay" -- and I got the impression (I think from my father) that "J." was just an affectation -- and referred to the "J." in "Joseph".

It is my guess (especially after learning from censuses from his childhood that census-takers were told his name was "Jacob") that perhaps "Jay" alluded to a Hebrew name of Yaakov Yosef.

E. W. K.


Re: legal name change in New York. #general

jbonline1111@...
 

Birth certificates are routinely amended when a name is changed legally.  This can happen with adoptions, petitions for name changes, etc. 

However, it's important to understand that a person can use any name he or she wishes as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes.  My father's birth certificate lists him as Louis Slominsky (misspelled, should have been Slonimsky) in 1917.  The 1920 census lists him as Lawrence Slonimsky.  Sometime around 1940 he and his brothers changed their last names to Sloan.  My father enlisted in the Army with the name Sloan though one brother used the name Slonimsky.  
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: legal name change in New York. #general

Ittai Hershman
 

On the question of whether antisemitism could reasonably be a factor in name changes in the 1940s, especially for those running professional offices in their names, note this passage from James Loeffler's award winning book, "Rooted Cosmopolitans" (Yale, 2018), p. 97:

"Blaustein’s researchers reported to him that antisemitism had dramatically increased in American society during the war years. Most Americans viewed Jews as a greater threat than German Americans or Japanese Americans; one-third of respondents indicated that they would 'join or sympathize with an antisemitic political campaign.' That number soon rose to a whopping 57 percent of the public. Yet at the same time, 59 percent of Americans favored the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Even a majority of self-professed antisemites supported such a state. This presented a confounding situation for Jewish leaders: Americans liked the Zionist idea of a Jewish state even as they feared Jewish influence in domestic politics.”

Ittai Hershman
New York City


Re: legal name change in New York. #general

Sherri Bobish
 


There is this book:

Petitions for name changes in New York City, 1848-1899

Kenneth Scott
National Genealogical Society
, 1984

I thought this book was full searchable on GoogleBooks, but now it does not seem to be.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine, records #ukraine

Harvey Kabaker
 

Sad. Was hoping you'd say Alex Krakovsky had scanned them. I have potential Weinhouse/Weingus cousins in a well-sourced tree in a faraway section of the geni forest, with DNA hints that need verification by genealogy. History of Staraya Ushitsa (briefly within Bessarabia's borders) says mostly Sephardic Jews of  Germanic and Austrian origins came in the late Middle Ages; my line kept moving east through Bessarabia (Briceni and Edinet), I think, until about 1900. I'd love to confirm this connection so I can reliably posit that my great grandmother's carved wooden cookie cutters of the mid/late-1800s were a Jewish folk-craft adaptation of the German Springerle tradition.
Harvey Kabaker



Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Peter Cohen
 

I am a firm believer in written records. I do not expect any online company to exist 20 or 30 years from now. And even while they exits, the odds are that they would purge data that had not been changed after some number of years. Creating a CD, DVD or USB drive to store the data won't help if the devices that read them are replaced by something else later on.  But, if you have a book that details the work you have done, when your heirs clean out your house (hopefully years from now), they will know it is that they have in their hands.  This is not to say that you should not also keep your work online or in some digital format. But, as someone who has spent 30 years in technology, I am warning that digital storage changes frequently. Floppy disks and various forms of tape are very hard to read today and there is no reason to think today's storage methods are any more enduring.

Peter Cohen


Re: legal name change in New York. #general

Sherri Bobish
 



Ethan mentioned finding a newspaper notice of a name change in NYC.

A good (and free) site to search NY newspapers (and some other states now also) is:
https://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


September 9: #sephardic genealogy webinar from the Center for Jewish History #events #announcements #sephardic

Moriah Amit
 

Family History Today: Portuguese Citizenship - Reconnecting with your Sephardic Iberian Ancestors

Wednesday, September 9, 3 PM ET

While Spain has ended its Law of Return for descendants of Sephardic Jews, Portugal continues to be an option for those wishing to reclaim their ancestors' citizenship. Rita Mayer Jardim, a Lisbon-based lawyer specializing in this path to Portuguese citizenship, will address the most common questions she receives from prospective applicants. Learn what is required to prove your Sephardic heritage, how long it takes, and other practical details that will help you navigate the process.

This program is sponsored by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute. It is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs in partnership with the City Council.

Ticket Info: Pay what you wish; register at /tickets/family-history-today-2020-09-09 to receive a link to the Zoom program.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian at the Center for Jewish History
New York, NY


Re: Staraya Ushitsa, Ukraine, records #ukraine

Gary Pokrassa
 

Harvey - all I can add to Chuck's comment is a photo of what is left from the fire now sitting in the Khmelnitski Archives....its not pretty

Gary Pokrassa
gpokrassa@...
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division
JewishGen.org