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Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

Thank you Julia, for this new and interesting option. I have looked on the desktop (full) version of familysearch.org and can not find this area. They have something called “memories” but I still don’t see where or how to submit a genealogy. That area seems to work with the usual collaborative trees in the main section. If you ever have a moment to explore, I’d really appreciate a specific path to follow. 
Thanks again-
Reba Harris Solomon, New York


Translation please from Dutch #germany #translation

Reuven Stern
 

This is a Dutch document.
I will appreciate it if someone will translate this birth registration record including the table headline.
In particular I want to know the meaning of the three letters following the surname "Os".
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85056
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Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel


Re: Obituaries in Paris newspapers #france

Family and DNA
 

In general, the obits (avis de déces / rubrique nécrologie) for famous and/or rich folks would be in Le Figaro or Le Monde. There are also local papers -- in Paris it'd be Le Parisien, for somebody from Brittany it'd be Ouest France, etc.

(Posting to main group in case anybody else has this question)

Boris, note that here they like to Frenchify names of people & places, & her first name is written as 'Hanna' -- keep that in mind when you are doing searches.

regards,
Juliana in France

On 8/27/2020 21:03, boris wrote:

I am looking for an obituary for an Israeli artist Hannah BEN DOV, who died ca. 4 March 2009 in Paris. Which newspaper(s) would most likely publish it and is it possible to search them online, similar to NYT?

 

Thank you!

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Boris Feldblyum
FAST Genealogy Service
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Juliana Berland (France)

/// Russia/Ukraine: BENIN / BERLAND Czernigow; Romny, Poltava > (Paris>) Chicago AMBURG / BERKOWITZ / EPSTEIN Odessa, Kherson, Poltava > (Paris >) Buffalo NY; Chicago GELBURD / GAYLBURD / GOLDBERG / GILBERT Vinnitsya; Nemyriv; Priluki Staraya; Podolia gub. > Philadelphia; Atlantic City; Milwaukee /// Galicia/Poland/Ukraine: BADER Felsztyn (Skelivka) > Philadelphia BADIAN Komarno? FELDMA(N)N Wolanka / Boryslaw > Philadelphia FREIDENHEIM Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. GERTLER Komarno, Wolanka, Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. WEINER/WIENER ? /// Germany: ADELSDORFER  BÄR / BAER Buttenhausen > mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN. EPSTEI(N)N Röhrenfurth/Melsungen, Sachsenhausen, Guxhagen > Luxembourg; Amsterdam; MW US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN HAUSSMAN Heidenheim? ISAAK Fellheim? MEYER Hannover > Aurora, IN. MOSES Gotte(rs?n?)heim, Sachsenhausen, Röhrenfurth. ROSENSTEIN Stuttgart; Elberfeld? > Philadelphia, Lancaster, PA.

 


Searching Hamburg lists for family groups #records

Alan Reische
 

Good morning - I have combed through a large number of databases to determine which shtetl my family emigrated from without success. I've conducted  wild card searches both for likely surnames and  given names; checked NYC manifests for the date of arrival; have checked Findagrave; and examined non-US databases for likely family shtetls using the American surnames. I am coming to the conclusion that the surname was changed during or prior to their arrival in NYC, resulting in a brick wall.

I do know the approximate dates of birth for the four family members who emigrated, presumably as a group, and the apparent date of arrival in NYC. Taking the data I do have, and assuming they embarked from Hamburg as a group, is there a way to conduct a search in the Hamburg emigration database for the four family members, using only their dates of birth and a small range of departure dates, without  surnames?  (I'd extrapolate the date of embarkation from the date of arrival in NYC.)

As for given names - I have the Anglicized given names, and for the parents, I have the Hebrew names from their gravestones.

What I'm hoping to do is to locate a family group with appropriate birth data for each member, but doing so without surnames. Doing it with surnames has proven to be a dead end (or a rabbit hole, if you will). Certainly, the matrix at Ancestry doesn't seem to permit such a search.

If I've overlooked the obvious, my apologies. I look forward to any suggestions.

Alan Reische


Searching Hans Herbert REICH, Montevideo #general

George Fogelson
 

Searching for Hans Herbert REICH the son of Lotte REICH. Last known living in Montevideo on Avda Gen Rivera .
Please reply privately to
George FOGELSON
Redondo Beach, CA


Announcing the publication of Memorial Book of Vishnevets #ukraine #poland

Joel Alpert
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its 101 title, Memorial Book of Vishnevets -
Memorial Book to the Martyrs of Vishnivits Who Perished in the Nazi
Holocaust.

This is a hard cover book, 11 inches by 8.5 inches with 438 pages.

Original Yizkor book: Sefer Vishnivits: Sefer zikaron likedoshei
Vishnivits shenispu besho'at hanatsim in Yiddish and Hebrew
Editors: Chayim Rabin
Published by Organization of Vishnevets Immigrants
Published in Tel Aviv, 1970
Layout and Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Nina Schwartz

List price: $54.95, available from JewishGen for $32
For more information go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Vishnevets.html

Alternate names: Vishnevets [Rus], Wisniowiec [Pol], Vishnivits [Yid],
Vyshnivets [Ukr], Vishnevits, Vishniets, Vishnivitz, Vishnyovyets,
Wisnievicze, Wisniowiec Nowy, Wisnowiec, Vysnivec

Vishnevets is located at: 49°54' N 25°45' E, 214 miles W of Kyyiv

Nearby Jewish Communities:
Katerynivka 9 miles NE
Podlesnoye 10 miles N
Novyy Oleksinets 12 miles WSW
Vyshhorodok 13 miles SE
Kremenets 14 miles N
Pochayev 14 miles NW
Lanivtsi 15 miles E
Velikiye Berezhtsy 15 miles NNW
Zbarazh 16 miles S
Zaliztsi 19 miles WSW
Pidkamin 19 miles W
Stryyivka 21 miles S
Belozerka 21 miles ESE

Researchers and descendants of the town will want to have this book.
For more information, go to:

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project now has more than 100 titles
available. To see all the books, go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html

We hope you find this of interest for you and your family in
discovering the history of your ancestors. This would make a birthday
gift for a loved one.




Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project-
Memorial Book to the Martyrs of


Re: Obituaries in Paris newspapers #france

Sherri Bobish
 


Boris,

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/39214547/hanna-ben_dov
Hanna Ben-Dov died at the age of 90, in Paris, France. She had resided for the past two years at the Maison Des Artistes Home in Nogent-Sur-Marne, France, just outside Paris. She was the daughter of Yaacov Ben-Dov, an Israeli Photographer. Hanna was a Professional Painter and had lived in Paris since 1950. But many times over the years, she traveled back to her homeland of Israel, and displayed her paintings there in Tel-Aviv. She is survived by a niece and nephew, Carol Martin-Sperry and David Martin-Sperry, both living in London, England.

https://www.jpost.com/arts-and-culture/entertainment/jerusalem-born-artist-hannah-ben-dov-dies-at-age-90-in-paris
Jerusalem-born artist Hannah Ben Dov dies at age 90 in Paris
 


New York City 1940's Street a View Old City Tax Photos #announcements #general #photographs #usa

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

A website maps depression-era tax photographs of every building in New York City-making it easier to navigate hundreds of thousands of snapshots of buildings from the 1940s. The photos were taken between 1939-1951 by the City Tax Department and the New Deal- era Works Progress Administration. This historic page may be found at https://1940s.nyc/map#13.69/40.7093/-73.99397

 

In 2018, the NYC Department of  Records and Information Services digitized 700,000 of the functional black and white photos in 35 mm film, but the website was difficult to navigate according to the person who created this website.

 

Those who would like to purchase a high quality print or digital copies can from the NYC Department of  Records and Information Services can do so at: https://www1.nyc.gov/doittshoppingcart/photoform.htm.

 

“The 1940s New York City images stem from the initiative which sent photographers around the Five Boroughs to photograph every single building, which officials hoped would improve property tax assessments. The photos exhibit a city at the tail-end of the Great Depression, before the great urban renewal programs and the dawn of the automobile era that would come to reshape the urban landscape.”  See: https://www.brooklynpaper.com/1940s-new-york-city-picures-history/ for more information.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Derechin birth/marriage/death records #belarus

geraldg36@...
 

Which Jewish families are you looking for

Thank you,  

Jerry Goldman


Re: Help needed to decipher handwriting of the name of vessel on attached Petition for Naturalization #usa

Keren Weiner
 

re:  Paul Silverstone's referencing F.   Bonsor's "North Atlantic Seaway" 

These volumes look like a great resource to have, especially in this case.  I see several of them for sale individually on e-Bay and also as a five volume set.
Thank you Paul, and thank you to the group for these links and ideas.  Sleuths extraordinaire!

Keren Weiner


(UK) Isle of Man Museum Online Newspaper Archives to Remain Free Permanently #unitedkingdom #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The Isle of Man Museum online newspaper archive will remain free permanently.  The archive contains more than 400,000 pages of newspaper print dating from 1792 to 1960.  During the COVID-19 outbreak the subscription service was temporarily suspended by the Manx National Heritage. There are now plans to digitize more contemporary newspapers, subject to fundraising for the £270,000 project, covering the years 1961 to 2020.  The collection can be accessed through the iMuseum at: https://www.imuseum.im/search/archive/

To access the entire website go to: https://www.imuseum.im/  For more information see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53854114

 

The Isle of Man is a self-governing British Crown dependency in the Irish Sea between England and Ireland. The Isle of Man was a base for alien civilian internment camps in both the First World War (1914–18) and the Second World War (1939–45) During World War I the British government interned male citizens of the Central Powers, principally Germany, Austria-Hungary and Ottoman Turkey. They were held mainly in internment camps at Knockaloe, close to Peel, and a smaller one near Douglas.

 

During World War II the Isle of Man was used as the primary site for the internment of civilian enemy aliens, both male and female. The camps were predominantly in commandeered hotels and boarding houses in seaside towns on the island. Around the camps for males, barbed wire fences were erected. The camps were in operation from 27 May 1940 to 5 September 1945. The largest recorded number of internees on the island was 10,024, reached in August 1940. There were ten camps on the island:

 

    Mooragh Camp, Ramsey

    Peveril Camp, Peel

    Onchan Camp, Onchan

    Rushan Camp, Port St Mary and Port Erin (for female and family internees only)

    Central Camp, Douglas

    Palace Camp, Douglas

    Metropole Camp, Douglas

    Hutchinson Camp, Douglas

    Granville Camp, Douglas

    Sefton Camp, Douglas

 

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps#Isle_of_Man

 

The Isle of Man Museum website includes photographic evidence of people interned there during World War 1 and  WW11.  There are about 52,283 WW11 internment Images and for World War 1 69,725 results.. For “Jewish” alone 128 results appeared

Go to: http://www.imuseum.im/

To read their blog about this collection see: http://www.imuseum.im/?p=411

 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

Max Heffler
 

With Internet search technology and “The Way-Back Machine” going back to the beginning on the Internet, I choose to have trees everywhere I can:

 

Primary on geni.com, less current versions on MyHeritage and Ancestry.com, JewishGen Famiy Tree of the Jewish People, Wikitree, FamilySearch, DNA sites like 23andMe, LivingDNA, yourDNA.family, mytrees.com, and probably others I have forgotten. My work is guaranteed to outlive me.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

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Question about town of registration for KEMPER - Salnitsa and Salakhov Ukraine #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

The father and mother are the same for all six birth records recorded in
Starokonstantinov, Ukraine Birth Records. The town "where the father was
from (town of registration)" alternates between Salnitsa and Salakhov.
Year of birth record, surname, town
1893 KEMPA Salkhov
1898 KEMPER Salnitsa
1901 KEMPER Salakhov
1904 KEMPER Salnitsa
1907 KEMPER Salokhov
1911 KEMPER - no town given
I know where Salnitsa is located. I can not find Salakhov (various
translations). Is it related to Salnitsa? Why is town of registration not
the same in all cases? Any ideas?
Barry Chernick, Bellevue, WA


Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

mab@...
 

If you are working on a PC, I would recommend Legacy Family Tree available at https://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/index.php .  
If you are working on a Mac, you have two options: run Reunion available at https://www.leisterpro.com  or run Legacy using Parallels to run this program written for the PC.  If you go to the Legacy website, they have information on how to do the later.

Considerations:
  • Whatever program or website you choose, start by entering a small tree to see how you like it.  Several of the software packages as a free version that you can try.  Until you pay for the full version, there may be limits on the number of people you can enter and the reports you can print out.
  • All genealogy programs have places to enter names, dates, events and sources.  That said, each program has a different user interface.  It is a matter of personal preference as to which you prefer.
  • One thing I particularly like about Legacy, is the way they deal with addresses.  If you entering information from a census they have a natural way to enter addresses (house #, street, town, state...).  Whereas in Reunion, for example, when you enter Census information you have two fields: Location and Memo.  You can enter the full address into the location field, but then you end up with many, many locations, and it is hard to sort them by state or for a mapping program to locate them.  If you enter only the town, county, state in location and use the memo field for the house number and street, then you end up with a more manageable list of locations, and can locate events that happen in the same place more easily.  However, the way this information prints out in reports is awkward. 
  • I would look carefully at what charts and reports they can create as that is one place where they differ.
  • Personally, I did not find the ability to link automatically to Ancestry useful.  The way Ancestry formats source references is AWFUL.  Not only is every other word Ancestry, but they leave out some information that I consider important.  Their branding is so over done that they claim they are the author of such documents as the US Census.  It will take you less time to do the transfer by hand than to clean up their mess.  Also, a manual transfer encourages you to really look at the information to make sure it is applicable to your tree
  • Look at their customer support.  Legacy has the advantage that they have an extensive library of videos both on how to use their software and on general topics of interest to genealogists.
  • On line v. on your computer:
    • I personally fell I have more control over my information if it is on my computer than online.
    • On line involves an ongoing fee to maintain full access to your information.  On your computer, there is a one time cost to purchase the software.
    • Geni is a cooperative tree in which other people can edit the information you enter.
    • Ancestry has a very limited ability to create charts and reports. 
    • I have not had much experience with My Heritage.
  • Backup, backup, backup.  This is a good idea whether you are talking genealogy or just in general.  Whether your tree is online or on your computer, you should always back it up.  For example, if you tree is online at  Ancestry, you should periodically download a gedcom.  If your tree is on your computer, you should periodically save a backup copy (just in case you make changes that you need to later undo) AND you should have a backup off site, in case you computer is. damaged, lost or stolen.  Options for off site backup may be as simple as putting it on a thumb drive and giving it to someone else to keep. Another option, is there are a few commercial products you can purchase that will automatically backup your entire computer.
mab@...


Re: Family Tree Recommendations #general

Marcel Apsel
 

To add one remark.  Once I found that My Heritage had information on some members of my family, but I had to pay a subscription to view it.  After a while I realized that this information was my own, which I have found through my own research and passed it on a gedcom file to a far distant cousin who put it on geni without my permission and from there it went to My Heritage.  I still have to laugh when I think I had to pay for information I gathered myself.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Else and anna Stransky from Vienna #austria-czech

Daniela Torsh
 

Thanks to quite a few people who have helped me uncover more information about some distant cousins of my mother's family.
 Else Stransky was born 1882 in Podmokly today Decin in  Czechia. Her mother Lotti and my ggrandmother Wilhelmine LOEBL were sisters in Most, Czechia. Else moved to Vienna with her husband Emil, a banker born in Jablonec,  Bohemia and they had four children there.
One was a daughter Anna born 1907,  who in 1939 fled to London with her mother.
Else and Anna stayed in England until they died in 1975 and 1993 respectively. They were interned for about a year at Rushen camp on the Isle of Man from 1940 and  left without restrictions for Glasgow and then became domestics in Surrey for the Butcher family of five. Later they moved to the Borough of Wandsworth.
They were both cremated at Putney Vale and I now have records for that.
I want to thank Mike Frankl, Martin Dostal, Barrie Blissett-Turner of the Putney Vale crematorium and my friend here in Sydney Robyn Dryen plus an anonymous correspondent.
Daniela Torsh
Sydney, Australia
Researching POLLAK in Bohemia and Vienna, THORSCH in Moravia, Stransky in Vienna


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Marcel Apsel
 

Peter I completely agree with you.  I collect records of people on FamilyTreeMaker in digital version and a printed paper version.  Parallel I also keep filing the same records the old way, simply by classifying them by hand and have it simply printed alphabetically in a word processor.  The printed copies might probably survive, the digital copies only if my children want to keep them with the right program if it still exists, or not throw them away by mistake.  My late sister had it still on classical 3.5 inch floppy disks (luckily I copied them on time on a removable hard disk before I had to get rid of that too old fashioned computer who was able to read those floppy disks).  Try to find today an old 3.5 floppy disk reader (maybe in computer museums). I am afraid that digital copies might disappear on the long run.  Nobody will be able to say that this won’t happen, neither geni, ancestry, wikitree and other genealogical family tree keepers.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

David Mason
 

CDs and DVDs may be the best digital media.  CDs have been used for data for about 30 years, with no incompatibilities with contemporary technology.  This said, there are differences in the raw media.  Some are more archival than others.  Research before you leap!  And if we ever reach a point where the technology has left CDs behind, at least save a compatible drive or two; better an entire system.

 

I certainly would not expect any magnetic media to last more than a decade, while many of us have had flash drives become unusable, well “in a flash”.

 

David Mson


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Max Heffler
 

I also left a hard-bound book version at the genealogical branch of our Houston Public Library, but it likely 10 years or so out of date.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

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David JONASSOHN: Has anyone come across him in their research? #unitedkingdom #germany

wakewalkers@...
 

David JONASSOHN: Has anyone come across him in their research? I need to know where and when David Jonassohn was born in about 1796. It may have been in Groningen, Holland. Who were his parents? Did he have siblings? Presumably the father was called Jonas or Jonathan. David emigrated to Sunderland, England in 1816. I have a lot of details on his life after he arrived in England, but would like any information on his early years. He died in London in 1859, having married Charlotte Bauer in Hamburg in July 1826. David and Charlotte had four children, all born in Sunderland.

Thank you.

 

R Walker, London, England. Reply direct to sender