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Records From Secret Vatican Archive Offer New Clues to Response to Holocaust #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

Now that the secret Vatican Archives are open, the world is able to see what the Vatican did during World War ll regarding silence about what the Nazis did to the Jews.  Vatican officials have always insisted Pope Pius XII did everything possible to save Jewish lives during World War II.  Pope Pius XII thought that he should not take sides in the war," says Brown University professor David Kertzer, "and that therefore he should not be criticizing either side of the war, including the Nazis."

 

Kertzer published his early findings in an article in The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/the-popes-jews/6157). The newly unearthed documents — some imbued with anti-Semitic language — are shedding light on the pontiff's behavior during the Nazis' massacre of Jews. They also reveal the pope's role in preventing orphans of Holocaust victims from being reunited with their relatives.

 

NPR reports that Kertzer found two documents that reveal an intense debate was under way in the Vatican in 1943, when the Nazi occupiers of Rome rounded up more than 1,000 Jews and detained them in a military college 800 yards from St. Peter's Square before packing them off to the Auschwitz concentration camp. As the German ambassador to the Vatican reported to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, the roundup occurred under the pope's "very windows." Only 16 of the deportees survived.

 

A letter written by the Pope’s emissary to the Fascist Italy regime urged the pope to make a private, oral protest to the German ambassador. He suggested Pius tell the ambassador that there is no reason to use violence against Italian Jews because the racial laws instituted five years earlier by Benito Mussolini's dictatorial regime were "sufficient to contain the tiny Jewish minority within its proper limits."

 

Pope Pius asked advice from his Jewish affairs expert, Monsignor Angelo Dell'Acqua. However, a second document Kertzer found is , "is Dell'Acqua's thoroughly anti-Semitic document explaining why he thought the pope should not, in fact, speak out."  Dell'Acqua later became cardinal vicar of Rome.

 

Kertzer's findings also cover the case of two Jewish orphans secretly baptized in France after their parents were deported to Auschwitz: The Finaly Brothers—Robert and Gérald . Nuns, monks and a mother superior were put in jail for kidnapping when they defied court rulings to hand over the boys to their surviving relatives.  The Vatican issued instructions telling them to resist the law.

 

In 1945, the Finaly brothers were two of the estimated 1,200 French Jewish orphans in France alone in non-Jewish families or institutions. Across Europe, Kertzer believes, there were thousands more — secretly baptized and never reunited with their Jewish relatives.  Following his discoveries in the archives, Kertzer contacted Robert Finaly, who described to him what it was like when he and Gérald were being shuffled around in hiding in various convents.


To read more see:

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/29/907076135/records-from-once-secret-archive-offer-new-clues-into-vatican-response-to-holoca

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: How to correct information in databases displayed on JewishGen. #records #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

This is further to Sheila Toffell's post earlier today.  

Researchers should be aware that the 25-year journey of JRI-Poland.org started with 
many volunteers quickly coming forward to help us create data. Many were new to 
data entry of Polish records but that did stop them from wanting to be part of our 
visionary and innovative project and at the same time, wanting to give back. 

Of course, along the way, there has been a learning curve and that is why in my post
of 28 August I mentioned "over the years, JRI-Poland has discovered a multitude of 
errors/conflicts that can creep into records" and I listed of these reasons.  

The first one was: 
 
1. Names data entered from index pages vary from the actual record. 
    These are corrected as JRI-Poland supplements the original index as part of the 
    Phase 3 initiative to fully extract vital records.  This article, in part, describes both
    the Phase 3 project and other aspects of JRI-Poland activity.  
    https://jri-poland.org/downloads/Avotaynu_2018_Fall_JRI-Poland_Cover_Stanley_Diamond_article.pdf

The point is that the Phase 3 initiative is giving us the opportunity to replace the 
original basic indices with entries with full genealogical information in each record.
For information on the Phase 3 status of your town, write to [townname]@jri-poland.org.

I am also repeating two important paragraphs from my email of August 28th.

   "I also want to use this opportunity to clarify the original subject line on this thread.  
   There are some databases that can be searched via JewishGen that are made 
   available by independent organizations among.  This includes, Jewish Records 
   Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland.org).

   Therefore the original subject line on this thread might have been more accurately 
   titled as it now appears above.  That is,  "How to correct information in databases 
   displayed on JewishGen."

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.


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Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records
From: Sheila Toffell
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:16:18 EDT

The records that have been uploaded to jewishgen, certainly to JRI-PL, have usually been rudimetarily translated by poeple working for the archives. They are not in depth and names are sometimes not recognized correctly because the translators often are not familiar with Yiddish names. There are  jewishgen volunteers  who take on the task to go deeper into the record, and the results are uploaded. However, there could be errors at both levels. I have a situation like this with the name of a paternal great aunt, who is listed as Caim, but who was actually Chaia. The fact that this changes the sex of the person listed  could have confusing ramifications to a researcher. Luckily, I know the history of this lady. This information was relayed to the moderator for the town for correction. I suggest this is the best solution.

Shelia Toffell


Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups #records

Mashiach L. Bjorklund
 

Why Hamburg? It was just one of the many ports of embarkation to America. Don't forget the UK ports as well. Did any of your ancestors become US citizens? That paperwork will list where they came from, previous names used, and the ship they arrived on and the date they arrived.

Mashiach Bjorklund


Does anyone have information about last names #holocaust #poland #names

anngeva@...
 

I'm looking for information regarding which last names the children, my ancestors (or any ancestor in general) were given. Those of the father or those of the mother. I know that Hitler considered all Jewish children bastards and they were to take their mother's last names, however, is there any information that anyone knows of regarding practices before the second world war?  I have not been able to find any information about this. My relatives came from Poland (now Ukraine) and Austria and I have a copy of a birth certificate of one of my father's uncles (Poland) who was born in the late 1800s and his last name is his mother's.
Thanks in advance!
Ann Geva


Holocaust survivor and activist Gábor Hirsch dies in Switzerland - European Jewish Congress #hungary

Shulamit
 

With sadness I learned about the passing of Gábor Hirsch. Gábor will be remembered by many for his kindness and his yearly announcement of Hungarian memorial dates.

https://eurojewcong.org/news/communities-news/switzerland/holocaust-survivor-and-activist-gabor-hirsch-dies-in-switzerland/

Shulamit Spain, Scotland


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Re: Jews Orphan Asylum Kent - England #unitedkingdom #records #yizkorbooks

David Lewin
 

At 17:50 30/08/2020, Miriam Deutscher wrote:
You don't mention about how your descent is Jewish.
Someone is only Jewish if they have maternal Jewish descent i.e.
your mother's mother's mother etc. was Jewish. Otherwise you may
have Jewish blood, but not actually be Jewish.

Surnames often help show if someone was Jewish, but not always. As
one example, someone with a Jewish mother but a non-Jewish father
might have a non-Jewish name (or the reverse). Aside from that names
were sometimes misspelled or Anglicized to fit in better with society.

Miriam Deutscher
_._,_._,_
This needs correcting

The USA uses different words to the UK here - so I am UK terminology
which you may have to "translate"

There are two major streams in the observing of Judaism : "Orthodox"
and "Reform"#

"Maternal Jewish descent " in defining Judaism is the requirement of
Orthodox or Traditional Judaism

The various "Reformed" or "Liberal strands will., of course, accept
that but will also accept anyone who asserts to being a Jew.

To my knowledge all the streams of Judaism require a proficiency in
Jewish history and Tradition when accepting a convert into Judaism

The amount of knowledge required will vary from one congregation to
the other. Equally the proficiency in Hebrew demanded will vary

Equally the recognition by surname is no longer "reliable" - brought
abouit in the main by intermarriage particularly since World War 2.

David Lewin
London


Announcing the publication of Memorial Book of Vishnevets #ukraine #poland

Joel Alpert
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its 101 title, Memorial Book of Vishnevets -
Memorial Book to the Martyrs of Vishnivits Who Perished in the Nazi
Holocaust.

This is a hard cover book, 11 inches by 8.5 inches with 438 pages.

Original Yizkor book: Sefer Vishnivits: Sefer zikaron likedoshei
Vishnivits shenispu besho'at hanatsim in Yiddish and Hebrew
Editors: Chayim Rabin
Published by Organization of Vishnevets Immigrants
Published in Tel Aviv, 1970
Layout and Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Nina Schwartz

List price: $54.95, available from JewishGen for $32
For more information go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Vishnevets.html

Alternate names: Vishnevets [Rus], Wisniowiec [Pol], Vishnivits [Yid],
Vyshnivets [Ukr], Vishnevits, Vishniets, Vishnivitz, Vishnyovyets,
Wisnievicze, Wisniowiec Nowy, Wisnowiec, Vysnivec

Vishnevets is located at: 49°54' N 25°45' E, 214 miles W of Kyyiv

Nearby Jewish Communities:
Katerynivka 9 miles NE
Podlesnoye 10 miles N
Novyy Oleksinets 12 miles WSW
Vyshhorodok 13 miles SE
Kremenets 14 miles N
Pochayev 14 miles NW
Lanivtsi 15 miles E
Velikiye Berezhtsy 15 miles NNW
Zbarazh 16 miles S
Zaliztsi 19 miles WSW
Pidkamin 19 miles W
Stryyivka 21 miles S
Belozerka 21 miles ESE

Researchers and descendants of the town will want to have this book.
For more information, go to:

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project now has more than 100 titles
available. To see all the books, go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html

We hope you find this of interest for you and your family in
discovering the history of your ancestors. This would make a birthday
gift for a loved one.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project-
Memorial Book to the Martyrs of


Announcing the publication of the Memorial Book of Wierzbnik-Starachowitz, Poland #poland

Joel Alpert
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its102nd title, Wierzbnik-Starachowitz; a Memorial Book

Original Yizkor Book in Yiddish and Hebew edited by: Mark Schutzman
Wierzbnik-Starachowitz Societies in Israel and the Diaspora, Published
in Tel Aviv, 1973
Layout: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Nina Schwartz
Name Indexing: Bena Shklyanoy
Hard Cover, 11 inches by 8.5 Inches, 676 pages with illustrations and
photographs.

List price: $65.95, available from JewishGen for $37
For more information go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Wierzbnik.html

Alternate names:
Wierzbnik [Pol], Vierzhbinik [Yid], Vyerzhbnik [Rus],
Wierzbnik-Starachowice [Pol, 1939-1952], Starachowice, Starakhovits,
Strachovitza, Verzhbnik, Wierzbnik Starachow, Verzhbnik Starakhov,
Vyerzbnik, Vyerzhbanik

Wierzbnik, Poland is located at 51°03' N, 21°05' E, 25 miles S of
Radom, 24 miles NE of Kielce, 11 miles SW of Ilza. Since 1952,
Wierzbnik is part of Starachowice

Nearby Jewish Communities:
Wachock 3 miles WNW
Bodzentyn 9 miles SW
Skarzysko-Kamienna 9 miles WNW
Ilza 11 miles NE
Suchedniow 11 miles W
Kunow 11 miles SE
Wasniow 12 miles SSE
Nowa Slupia 13 miles S
Wierzbica 14 miles N
Jastrzab 15 miles NNW
Krajno 15 miles SW
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski 16 miles ESE
Szydlowiec 16 miles NW
Sienno 17 miles E
Denkow 17 miles ESE
Lagow 18 miles S
Skaryszew 20 miles NNE
Daleszyce 20 miles SW

Researchers and descendants of the town will want to have this book.

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project now has more than 100 titles
available. To see all the books, go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html

We hope you find this of interest for you and your family in
discovering the history of your ancestors. This would make a birthday
gift for a loved one.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project-


Re: Need help locating orphanage records from the ISRAEL ORPHAN ASYLUM #records

Diane Jacobs
 


Have you tried the Center for Jewish History
Website.  I found my mother's cousins there
in a NYC Jewish orphanage.  I found the 2 names and they were kind enough to forward the copies of their admission information to me.

Diane  Jacobs 
 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Raylene Gurewich <rgurewich@...>
Date: 8/30/20 10:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Need help locating orphanage records from the ISRAEL ORPHAN ASYLUM #records

My mother was an orphan as an infant in the Israel Orphan Asylum in Manhattan per the 1930 census. I had requested her records from the JCCA, but nothing was found. Is there any other place I can look? I would like intake information. She was also in another orphanage in Manhattan when she was a bit older before being placed in foster care. She doesn't remember the name. 
--
Raylene Gurewich 
Port Jefferson Station, NY
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Jews Orphan Asylum Kent - England #unitedkingdom #records #yizkorbooks

Miriam Deutscher
 

You don't mention about how your descent is Jewish.
Someone is only Jewish if they have maternal Jewish descent i.e. your mother's mother's mother etc. was Jewish. Otherwise you may have Jewish blood, but not actually be Jewish.

Surnames often help show if someone was Jewish, but not always. As one example, someone with a Jewish mother but a non-Jewish father might have a non-Jewish name (or the reverse). Aside from that names were sometimes misspelled or Anglicized to fit in better with society.

Miriam Deutscher


Re: Need Help Translating Documents From Poland #translation

FamilySearchPoland
 

Hello Dr. Josef,

Yes, I only need information pertaining to the Denenbergs.  As I have found these people on JRI-Poland in the past.  And the archives in Bialystok forwarded me these files they had on record.  The Denenberg my mother's side of the family.  They all originated from Biaylstok and immigrated to the USA.  Except for one who bastardized his way around Europe and has left our family with a legacy of newly discovered

Sophia Sherman


Virtual meeting Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland - September 9, 2020 #events #jgs-iajgs

Sylvia Fleck Abrams
 

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for a virtual program on
Wednesday, September 9, 2020
at 7:00 pm
Getting the Most out of Family Tree Maker®
A Virtual Presentation by Duff Wilson
Software MacKIev, Inc.
This presentation will highlight all the latest features of Family Tree Maker 2019 as well as older features you may not use, but should. 2019 marked thirty years since Family Tree Maker was born, and it's only fitting that this new edition takes this grand old brand to places its original creators could only have dreamed of. Where every change you make to your tree on your Mac or PC can be instantly and automatically viewed from your smartphone or tablet. Where you can turn back time to erase mistakes you made even a thousand changes ago. Where you can arrange for your tree to be passed on to a relative of your choice along with your Family Tree Maker license to ensure your legacy lives on. You'll see all this and much more in this session.
In addition, all attendees will be eligible for a discounted price on Family Tree Maker by ordering through a special link that will be provided during the program.   A virtual drawing will be held for a complimentary copy at the conclusion of the program.  The drawing will be limited to members of the JGS of Cleveland that attend the session and are present at the time of the drawing.
Duff Wilson is considered by many as the father of modern Family Tree Maker having been involved in the design of every edition since 2004. He has two decades of software design and development experience and has earned national awards for his work. Duff is an avid genealogist and works closely with countless genealogists, ranging from novice to expert

This program is free and open to the public, but space may be limited. 
Priority will be given to members of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland.
We will be using the Zoom meeting platform, so you may watch, listen and participate from the comfort of your own home.

Preregistration is required, and must be requested by NOON on September 9th.

To preregister, send an email message with your Name, Email address, current location, and Zip Code, by clicking here:rsvp@...

After you register, you will receive an email reply acknowledging receipt of your message. Once we have established the details for joining the meeting, we will forward those details, including a link and passcode to each registrant.

If you have any problems registering for the program, please contact: webmaster@...

Submitted by,
Sylvia F. Abrams
Immediate Past 
President
On behalf of Program Committee






Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"The records that have been uploaded to jewishgen, certainly to JRI-PL, have usually been rudimetarily translated by poeple working for the archives. They are not in depth and names are sometimes not recognized correctly because the translators often are not familiar with Yiddish names"

This may have been true at one time, but volunteers now translate, at least for JRI-PL, for those records that are copied one way or another.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Were there markings on headstones that identify who the stonecutters were? #unitedkingdom

yitschok@...
 

And here is one from Hungary, my great-grandfather died in 1929, marked on the bottom "Schreiber Debreceen".

I've also seen such inscriptions on a few tombstones I translated on JewishGen's Viewmate.

Yitschok Margareten 


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

JPmiaou@...
 

Reba, the Genealogies upload is hidden at the bottom of the Search - Genealogies page.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/family-trees

Click the button labeled "Submit Tree" to get started.

Julia
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Need help locating orphanage records from the ISRAEL ORPHAN ASYLUM #records

Raylene Gurewich
 

My mother was an orphan as an infant in the Israel Orphan Asylum in Manhattan per the 1930 census. I had requested her records from the JCCA, but nothing was found. Is there any other place I can look? I would like intake information. She was also in another orphanage in Manhattan when she was a bit older before being placed in foster care. She doesn't remember the name. 
--
Raylene Gurewich 
Port Jefferson Station, NY


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

Here’s something different as a written long-term solution: LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
https://www.loc.gov/rr/genealogy/gifts.html
I haven’t read it through thoroughly, but it seems that if you print out on archival paper with margins for binding, they will do the rest. It’s not searchable, for that I’m still looking for the online archive, but it is a good solid place for a written copy with documents and photos. 

Reba Harris Solomon, New York


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

Dear Yale-
I agree so strongly. Diversification is a MUST!

I have also sent my trees to cousins, printed out and mailed, and I maintain a list of interested parties for each branch. Updated trees were sent in .pdf but I doubt that a single one of those got printed as each is over 100 pages, including my source copies of original documents.

I will leave a printed copy of each tree with each of my children (though no one has asked 😢.)

We almost did have the asteroid this spring, but thankfully I think I still have time to find a free online archive. 

Reba Harris Solomon, New York


Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups #records

BRENERDA@...
 

My story the same. The family arrived in 1856 in NY departing from Hamburg. Both manifests found after months of searching on a family unit of parents and 4 children. Found using ages and many variations of given names. The surname in what was then Kosmin, Krotoszyn County (kreis), Greater Poland Voivodeship, Poland was LEVY or a variation of that. The family sailed out of Hamburg as LAPSAK and arrived in NYC as LAPSER. By the 1860 NYC census it was back to LEVI/LEVY.  The surname they sailed under is extremely rare. Back in the 1970s when I went on line to see if others had an idea why, no one knew. If anyone now has an idea, please share David Brener, Lancaster County, PA


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

FamilySearch Update: I have been following up on the suggestion to put my trees in Family Search‘s special Archival area. As far as I can determine, this area is called IGI-International Genealogical Index. In the past, it accepted LDS and other family trees for archiving. It has NOT ACCEPTED NEW TREES since 2010 when the entire index was assembled and became part of Legacy’s collections. 
If I am incorrect and you know of a different FamilySearch archive still available out there, please let us all know. 
Reba Harris Solomon, New York

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