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Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

Jacob Heisler
 

My request was for someone born in 1904 and immigrated in 1916, but
was only naturalized in 1956 (after naturalization records switched to
A-Files).

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 10:01 AM N. Summers via groups.jewishgen.org
<summ1=verizon.net@...> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Jacob Heisler wrote:

I tried ordering an A-File via a FOIA request, but I was told I was
only allowed to request the file through their Genealogy Program, the
one that is about to cost a lot of money.

According to the FOIA request website, any immigration documents over 100 years old must be requested thru the Genealogy program, which requires payment of a fee. That should mean any documents from 1921 and later are available for FOIA requests. Were your requests for older documents?

Nancy Summers

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine); LISS / ALPER (Motol, Russia/Belarus); LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)
Re: Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

Robin Klainbard
 

I sincerely wish to thank all of the wonderful people who responded to my request both here and privately. I am so happy to report that through some incredible people helping I have connected with my family! I could be more excited. My 94 year old Dad is really touched that he has located his relatives. What a gift everyone has given and I will be eternally grateful. Thank you to you all. Sending virtual hugs.
JewshGen rocks!!!!

Robin Klainbard
Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

N. Summers
 

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 09:00 AM, Jacob Heisler wrote:
I tried ordering an A-File via a FOIA request, but I was told I was
only allowed to request the file through their Genealogy Program, the
one that is about to cost a lot of money.
According to the FOIA request website, any immigration documents over 100 years old must be requested thru the Genealogy program, which requires payment of a fee. That should mean any documents from 1921 and later are available for FOIA requests. Were your requests for older documents?

Nancy Summers

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine); LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus); LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)
Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

N. Summers
 

Thank you so much! this is very helpful.

I discovered that the Naturalization index cards (which I found on Ancestry) show the C-File number, so for those people I wouldn't need to request an index search, (which i think is done primarily to find if there is a C- file ). For several ancestors i'd like to have copies of their naturalization certificates (which I assume are in the C-files), so first I have to request an index search and then request a copy of the C-file  . For pre-1906 naturalizations, I think the documents are with the court at which the naturalization was processed; some courts sent copies to INS>USCIS but others did not.

I also learned that for the post-1906 naturalizations the Petition for Naturalizatin and the grant of  naturalization are on the same document; the Petition is on the front of the page and the Naturalization on the back.  Are there also separate certificates of Naturalization?

Nancy Summers

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Nancy Summers

Maryland, USA

 

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine)

LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus)

LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)
Re: Circular (radial) Descendant Family Tree --looking for digital program or website that can create this #general

Steve Stein
 

For any field for which you can specify the output font, you can print in Hebrew, but it is somewhat tedious. I have created a field called Hebrew Name, and I use the Web Hebrew AD font for it. On the data entry screens it looks like gibberish, but on output it looks fine.

Steve Stein
Need help determining fate/yarzheit of KLEIN family members deported fron Medzilaborce. KLEIN #holocaust # slovakia #holocaust

tzipporah batami
 

Need help determining fate/yarzheit of family members deported fron Medzilaborce. Am told possibly ended up Lukow. Anyone have knowledge of more details of events in Lukow? Or specific knowledge Klein Family Fani, Shmiel, Yankel, Raizel, Dina?
 
Thank you
Feigie Teichman
finding obituaries #general

Trudy Barch
 

Hello,

 

Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers?  Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?

Also, is their anything similar for European deaths – past and current?

 

Thank you,    Trudy Barch,  Florida
Re: Help locate this Gulag-camp or village listed in post-war record #russia #holocaust

Moses Jefferson
 

I think Dr. Leiserowitzs’ suggestion is most accurate. In a memo written by my great grandfathers sister (written after the war), she writes that at first they (her parents and siblings) were taken to a forest where they were forced  cutting down large trees and preparing wood. In the end of 1941 they were set free [?] and went to the nearby town Byisk. 

Once in Byisk her brothers found work in Barnao which makes very much sense to actually be Barnaul as suggested, which is around a days trek from Byisk (160 km).

What troubles me most is obviously the lack of personal records that the Russians might still have. Sadly the Russian still boast about “thank us for saving the Poles from the Nazis”.

Moses Jefferson
Re: LEBEDENKO/LEBEDENCO surname origins #ukraine #romania #russia #general

Angela Lehrer
 

My family also came from Lebedev. Their family name was GOLUB, What was your grandmother's name? 

Angela Lehrer
Re: Gravestone translation needed from Hebrew for Max Luria 1859-1924 #translation

David Barrett
 

The Hebrew year as written  is TARPAD =5684  corresponding to 1924

and the Hebrew actually says " who went to / departed to His world"
 The date is : First day Rosh Chodesh Tammuz

Regards 
David Barrett
Re: Jadovno-ידובנו #general

David Barrett
 

sorry Yoav - you read it incorrectly
The first letter is a MEM
It actually says in Hebrew  FROM DUBNO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubno

David Barrett
Yecheil Mechel Keller from Galicia #poland #galicia

k5709999@...
 

looking for info or family of my gg grandfather Yecheil Mechel Keller -lived in Radomysl (Wielki) Galicia and later in Limanov in born about 1880 died about 1910
thanks
Joseph Kauftheil
Publication of Staszów Memorial Book #poland #yizkorbooks #holocaust

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

I am extremely pleased to announce that a 878-page Staszów Memorial Book, an annotated English translation of the 1962 Yizkor book Sefer Staszow, has just been published and is available from JewishGen. It also covers nearby Jewish communities of Kurozwęki, Osiek, Połaniec, Rytwiany and Szydłów.  For details, see:

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Staszow.html

 

Jean-Pierre Stroweis

JRI-Poland - Staszów town leader

Jerusalem, Israel

 


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Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem
Re: Jadovno-ידובנו #general

Dr.Josef ASH
 

it can be Edvabne, near Byalostok in Poland. the bad remembered town in Jewish history.
May it?
Josef ASH, israel
World Jewish Restitution Organization Asking Participants to Post Their Stories #announcements #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

The World Jewish Restitution Organization (WRJO) is asking Holocsut survivors and their families to share  their stories through videos, photos, or drawings include #MyProperyStory and tagging @WRJORestitution. The purpose is to raise awarenes of the need to address the restitution of Jewish private and communal property seized during the Holocaust and its aftermath. Their 5 week campaign begins on September 8 in advance of the High Holidays and runs through October 11- Shemini Atzeret/Simcat Torah.  Go to: https://wjro.org.il/my-property-story/ to read or share a story.

 

During the Holocaust, millions of Jews throughout Europe were robbed by the Nazis of every possession they ever had, such as jewelry and paintings, from their homes and businesses.

 

This year, 75 years after the Holocaust, the World Jewish Restitution Organization (WJRO), an organization addressing the restitution of Jewish property in Europe, launched for the second year in a row a social media campaign for their #MyPropertyStory: The Next Generations.

 

This year, the campaign will focus on survivors, their descendants and their connection to their family history before and after the Shoah, to shine a light on the unprecedented theft of property from Jewish people and communities during the Holocaust and its aftermath.

 

To read more see: https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/holocaust-survivors-and-heirs-tell-stolen-property-stories-on-social-media-641337

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 
Re: Photo for language identification #photographs #translation

erikagottfried53@...
 

It looks a loan word to me, too.  Not too fishy an explanation. (Sorry--couldn't resist.)
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Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey
Budapest Boys Choir #hungary #galicia

Sarah Rochel Hewitt <srhewitt@...>
 

My Great Grandfather, Elias Gartel, relayed a story (on a recording) that a little before he was bar mitzvah, he left his parents' house and went to go sing in a choir in Budapest. This would have been in the late 1890s. Looking for any leads on such a choir that would have recruited young singers from as far away as Rava Ruska.  Thank you

Sarah Rochel Hewitt
Fishel Gorlitzer, Dayan of the Sanser Rebbe #galicia

Sarah Rochel Hewitt <srhewitt@...>
 

I am looking for detailed information of the Sanzer court in Nowy Sacz (Sanz). I believe my Great-Great Grandfather, Tzvi Hersch, was his son. Two of his sons are known: Samuel Yehoshua Rocker who became a well-known figure in Cleveland and wrote a bio of the Sanzer Rebbe, and Noah, who ended up in Vienna. I have enough anecdotal proof but would love to find hard evidence... Any leads for a "bucky" in Sanzer history would be much appreciated.

Sarah Rochel Hewitt
Re: Ancestry's Drastic Changes Dash Hopes of Finding Connections #dna

Ellen Slotoroff Zyroff
 

It could not hurt and might actually help to send every one of these real examples to Ancestry's management and database managers and post to their discussion board(s).  Genealogical societies from around the world ought to write to them, too, with copies of the letters posted on DNA for genealogy Facebook pages and other discussion forums. 

Ellen Slotoroff Zyroff
 
 

On Monday, September 7, 2020, 08:09:31 PM PDT, David Brostoff <davbro@...> wrote:
 
 
On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Herbert Lazerow <lazer@...> wrote:

I have a known third cousin once removed who has tested on Ancestrydna and who matches me at 41, longest string 19. That person's brother, presumably also a third cousin once removed, matches me at only 13 cMs. Removing all matches below 20 cMs deprives me of knowing how long the longest string with that person might be.
Similarly, I have two known third cousins, one 3C1R and one half-1C2R under 20 cM.

More importantly though, I have a 14 cM match that led me to a cousin from a branch whose father had changed his last name to a very common one that made him impossible to find.

A Y-DNA test with the cousin -- the only surviving direct-paternal male descendant in his branch -- showed that he and I shared a common paternal ancestor and that our two branches were definitely related.

Without that 14 cM match I would never have been able to find the cousin to take the test.

David Brostoff
Re: Ancestry's Drastic Changes Dash Hopes of Finding Connections #dna

David Brostoff
 

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Herbert Lazerow <lazer@...> wrote:

I have a known third cousin once removed who has tested on Ancestrydna and who matches me at 41, longest string 19. That person's brother, presumably also a third cousin once removed, matches me at only 13 cMs. Removing all matches below 20 cMs deprives me of knowing how long the longest string with that person might be.
Similarly, I have two known third cousins, one 3C1R and one half-1C2R under 20 cM.

More importantly though, I have a 14 cM match that led me to a cousin from a branch whose father had changed his last name to a very common one that made him impossible to find.

A Y-DNA test with the cousin -- the only surviving direct-paternal male descendant in his branch -- showed that he and I shared a common paternal ancestor and that our two branches were definitely related.

Without that 14 cM match I would never have been able to find the cousin to take the test.

David Brostoff
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