Re: Is there such a place as Palestine, Russia??? #russia #galicia

Norbert Steiner

Under Czarist Russia and even under Stalin the Russian government was looking for a place for the Jews. They finally decided to allocate a large segment of Siberia - on the map it looks like near Irkutsk but is probably hundreds of miles away - and even renamed many towns with Yiddish names. Many Jews moved there voluntarily and many more were forcibly relocated. I don’t know what happened to the Jews but I know that many towns there still have Yiddish names. Searching for towns in Russia may be easier if you know this. 
May You Meet Your Responsibilities 
With Love, Insight, and Creativity 
Norbert Natan Steiner

Re: finding obituaries #general

Howard Kaufman

Great sources for obituaries are city libraries.
And the librarians are usually very helpful in locating them for you.
Howard Kaufman
Boca Raton, FL
KAUFMAN, SCHWARTZ -  Romania and Moldova

Re: Ancestry's Drastic Changes Dash Hopes of Finding Connections #dna

Adam Turner

Removing all matches below 20 cMs deprives me of knowing how long the longest string with that person might be.
Again, Ancestry did not do this, and there is no indication at the moment that they plan to do this. The part of the original post that alleges that they did is false.

The only change that Ancestry made was removing matches between 6.0 and 8.0 cM, whose usefulness tends to be much more marginal.

Adam Turner

Re: Is there such a place as Palestine, Russia??? #russia #galicia

Alexander Sharon

1. Late 19th century "Słownik Geograficzny..." (The Geographical Dictionary of The Kingdom of Poland) lists four entries for villages named Palestyna located in Russian Poland in the following        regions: Łódź, Częstochowa, Węgrów and Kielce
2. Modern Poland, identifies nine places named Palestyna, as an integral parts of the following villages

·        Palestyna – część wsi Ruda-Huta w woj. lubelskim, w pow. chełmskim, w gminie Ruda-Huta

·        Palestyna – część wsi Pilaszków w woj. łódzkim, w pow. łowickim, w gminie Łowicz

·        Palestyna – część wsi Glinnik w woj. łódzkim, w pow. zgierskim, w gminie Zgierz

·        Palestyna – część wsi Rososz w woj. mazowieckim, w pow. grójeckim w gminie Chynów

·        Palestyna – kolonia wsi Bilminy w woj. podlaskim, w pow. sokólskim, w gminie Kuźnica

·        Palestyna – część wsi Mirachowo w woj. pomorskim, w pow. kartuskim, w gminie Kartuzy

·        Palestyna – część wsi Kołaczkowice w woj. świętokrzyskim, w pow. buskim, w gminie Busko-Zdrój

·        Palestyna – część wsi Gronowo w woj. warmińsko-mazurskim, w pow. mrągowskim w gminie Mrągowo

·        Palestyna, obecnie Karolina – wieś w województwie śląskim, w woj. śląskim, w pow. częstochowskim, w gminie Rędziny

3.  Palestyna In Wilno/Belarus

Part of the Jewish town Worniany (Wilno district), currently known as town Vornyany in Belarus identifies Palestyna

4.  Palestyna in a "proper" Russian lands

A locality listed in Rostov-na Donu Oblast' as Новая Палестина, apparently it had no Jewish residents

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Thank you, Julia, for being so specific with your instructions about archiving my trees at I followed your path and successfully uploaded my gedcom file and it automatically went into their Pedigree Resource Files. It only shows my direct ancestors and eliminated all the connected cousins and sidelines. Is there a way to show my complete gedcom file?  Thank you,
Reba Harris Solomon

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Thank you, Julia, for your post about archiving at I followed your specific path and successfully uploaded my gedcom file, and my information went into their Pedigree Resource Files.  Unfortunately, the process eliminated all my side branches and only includes my direct ancestors. Am I in the wrong place?  Is there a way to archive my complete gedcom file in FamilySearch? 
Thank you,
Reba Harris Solomon

Re: Ancestry's Drastic Changes Dash Hopes of Finding Connections #dna

Nomi Waksberg

Anyone can file a complaint on the BBB site
FCC complaints on Hopefully there will be strength in numbers of complaints filed.

Nomi Waksberg

Re: Hi~Searching for Family. GERSZON & POLEJES from Rubezhevichi, Belarus. #belarus

Janis and Joe Datz

I am working on the Stolpce yizkor book.  Stolpce is not far from your ancestors' town.  It is mentioned in the book.  However, unfortunately, I do not see these surnames in my work in progress master surname list. Janis Friedenberg Datz

DNA test #dna

Hanna Grossman

I have done an Ancestry autosomal test and gotten my results.

They include two 2nd cousins whom I know.

And very many 2-3 cousins , none of whose names I recognize, and none of whom have matching names in their (very minimal) connected trees.

How can I proceed to find out any more about how these matches may be related? #dna

Hanna Grossman, Arlington VA

Re: BLUMENTHAL - family relations #germany #usa #general

Sherri Bobish


On Ancestry I see a U.S. draft card dated March 3, 1947 for Daniel BLUMENTHAL, born Koenigsberg, March 23,1910. 

David lists his brother, Martin BLUMENTHAL, as the person who will always know his location. Both David and Martin had addresses in Manhattan (different address for each.)

Daniel worked at Cyclone Motor Corp. in Long Island City, NY.

Ancestry also has this info on Daniel's obit:
Name: Daniel Blumenthal
Gender: Male
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: abt 1910
Residence Place: BREMEN, Germany
Death Date: 3 Mar 1993
Death Place: Bremen
Burial Place: Germany
Obituary Date: 13 Apr 1993
Obituary Place: Zanesville, Ohio, United States of America
Spouse: Hilda

Sherri Bobish

Re: Another finding among Bessarabia records - Service Form List #bessarabia #ukraine #records #translation

Harvey Kabaker

Hi, Yefim,

My career was in newspapers, and I often wondered whether anyone was reading what I wrote or edited. Occasionally I would see angry responses to one thing or another, so I knew they were reading. Then there were the grammar police and nitpickers who insisted on correcting things. More proof that people are reading. Sometimes I made an excuse for a mistake saying, yes, I knew that was wrong, but I wanted to see if you were reading.

So maybe you should start writing things that make people angry? Or maybe not.

With best wishes, as always,
Harvey Kabaker
Silver Spring, Md.

Re: LEBEDENKO/LEBEDENCO surname origins #ukraine #romania #russia #general

Sherri Bobish


Have you tried searching Lebedenco at the JewishGen Romania-Moldova Database?
I suggest doing a soundex (sounds like) search, so you will find alternative spellings of the surname.  I did a very quick search and found the name spelled with a "k" instead of a "c', and some other variations in spelling also.


Sherri Bobish

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Marcel Apsel

About printing familiy trees on paper by FamilyTreeMaker.  You can make all kind of charts and including default as much as you want.  In the older versions of FTM you could create new facts and I think with a little bit of manipulating you should be able to add specific facts you create by your own on printed sheets.  I do not know if this works with the recent versions, I did not try it out, but normally it should.

In FTM you should go to the person windows, open the blue cross for facts and choose the button new and you can create a new fact where you can choose a specific name you wish.  There you can file whatever you want in the way you want.  I never tried to put pictures this way, so maybe you can try it.



Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium

Re: finding obituaries #general

Dick Plotz

If you click through to an obituary at that you found
by googling the name, you can see an inconspicuous link toward the
bottom of the page that says "Show article text (OCR)". Click that
link to see an unedited OCR text of the article or the whole page, I'm
not sure what determines how much you see. You can then search the
page and read the text. It may be a little garbled; that's the nature
of unedited OCR output. But it will often include the information you

You don't need to be a subscriber to see this.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 12:02 PM Mary Henderson <gengenres@...> wrote:

Hi, Trudy! is a good resource for obituaries - but it's a paid subscription site.

Mary Henderson

Mary Henderson
Genetic Genealogy Research, LLC

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On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:49 AM Trudy Barch <cousintrudy@...> wrote:


Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers? Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?

Re: BLUMENTHAL - family relations #germany #usa #general

Peter Lowe

Re: GERSZONOWICZ or GIERSZONOWICZ families from the city of PIOTRKOW (Poland) between 1780 and 1880, from the city of Osjakow (Poland) between 1880 and 1905, from Lodz (Poland) after 1905 #poland #russia #lodz


My GG grandmother, Sura Gitla Gierszonowicz, born in 1833 had a sister Riwka Ruchla Gierszonowicz, who was born about 1838 in Aleskandrow, Poland.  She married Icek Szwarc in 1862, who was born in Lodz.  Their father was Shari (Zacharyasz) Gierszonowicz, mother Golda Shwartz, she was born in the village of Vitslovitsi.  Her mother's name was Tauba, surname not known, and father's name Moshka Shwartz.  Does any of my families roots connect to your GERSZONOWICZ family?
Karen Brown

Re: Seeking Fritz BUKOFZER, film producer- Paris > Switzerland #france

David Selig

Hi all.   I have found Fritz's grave,he died in Feb 1958 in Luzern.   Many thanks to Herr Teichman.  I am now on a trail to find the marriage information - first through the Paris telephone books, held in a special Museum!
best to all
David SELIG, Paris

Re: finding obituaries #general


Though I have not usually been successful at finding obituaries of my poor immigrant ancestors, I did find one for an uncle who died in 1916.  He was killed in an accident, so there was litigation involved.  While it may be difficult, it's not impossible. I think this was found at, to which a friend subscribes.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: finding obituaries #general


I'm a historian, and I'm also chasing my own family's story. I also recommend the newspaper sites -- and genealogy bank. In addition, some universities have digitized old newspapers from their states. One thing to know is that some old newspapers listed obits only by the last name. 
Sherry Robinson
Albuquerque, NM

Re: Help locate this Gulag-camp or village listed in post-war record #russia #holocaust



regarding Bawao "Gulag-camp". I have no intention to dispute your family history but would like to clarify the following. Some Jews from Western Ukraine voluntarily left their birth towns for Russia proper after 1939 events, some to return back after the war to finally leave the area for good. They did it for many reasons, some to get an education, better job prospects in cities, etc. Jacob Biber from Wolyn town of Maciejow, who survived the war hiding with his wife with the help of some friendly locals, writes about it in his book "Survivors". 

I read the information in this document as your great-uncle was working for Town <authorities> as a worker (sic) from 1940 til September 1945 in Siberian city of Barnaul with compensation of 150 rubles a month. This particular document, most likely written from his words, has no indication that he was in Gulag camps. It's interesting that he was an elementary school pupil in 1937-1939. Was he too young in 1940 to be placed in a penal system? The next line stating that in September of 1945 he was already in Berlin, Germany collaborates the idea that he (his family) wasn't interned. I highly recommend the above mentioned book to better understand how a civilian family/person could possibly leave USSR  at the time your great-uncle did. The book also mentions that the most local Jewish survivors were among those who moved to Russia in 1939-1940.

Best regards,
Olga Slavin (Barsht)

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