Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Final Answer:
I want to wish a hearty Thank You to all who responded and provided input. With your help I have found 3 places to store my genealogy online, hopefully for a very long time, where it is searchable but not collaborative. 

1. BEIT HATFUTSOT - the Family Trees section is
just a baby Beta program right now, and so far I have not been able to view my work, but hopefully it will continue to develop and go from strength to strength. The link is

It takes a few days until you get your registration number and can view your tree. 

As of now I’m submitting but reserving judgment until I can search my work. 

2. - I know the history of what some Mormons did with Holocaust names, but I’m going with it anyway. The website is very professionally done. My trees have gone into their archival and searchable GENEALOGIES section (NOT their collaborative Family Tree.) From a computer (not your phone) go to
scroll down past the search section to “upload your genealogy.”  It takes about 15 minutes to process. You must click on “compare” and back again before your upload will move from “processing” to “compare” to “ready.”

3. This website stores, preserves and updates documents, photos and interviews, for 100+ years. It’s amazingly easy to sort and tag the files. This Sunday 9/13 I will take advantage of their sale, and pay a one time flat fee of $200 for 25 GB of online storage. 

These will all be viewable by my family, and in addition I have hard copies of each tree and documentation that will be held by some lucky (?) relative. 😄. Perhaps one day soon I will use the supplemental services of to pull together a book I can store at the Library of Congress. 


So I’ve created a diversified, long term plan for my trees, photos and documents. Thank you all so much for your help and input.

May we all share a happy and HEALTHY New Year.

May you all be inscribed in the Book of Life!
Reba Harris Solomon

Austria Historic Agreement to Secure Jewish Life in Austria #announcements #austria-czech

Jan Meisels Allen



The Jewish Community of Vienna (IKG), has reached an historic agreement with the federal government of Austria to safeguard and foster Jewish life in the long term.  The new law will enable the consolidation of the Jewish Community, securing its infrastructure and the services it has to offer. This includes schools, culture, youth, care, social support, public relations, security and many other areas.


The Austrian government will create a new legal initiative for that purpose. The core of this undertaking is the financial support by the federal government for the Jewish Community in the amount of €4 million annually.


IKG President Oskar Deutsch, said “The new law must also be seen as an anchor of the IKG as our unified community in which all forms of Judaism organize themselves democratically. It is a sad but necessary reality that Jewish life is only possible with professional security measures and the commitment of many community volunteers and employees. At the same time, the close cooperation of our security staff and commission with Austrian authorities have made us one of the safest communities in Europe”.


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names


Hi, Can anyone give me the Equivqlent Hebrew Given Name for Clara?
Thank you in advance, all the best, stay safe , well and healthy and may we all enjoy this coming New Year 5781 in very good health and may the pandemic be eradicated. Aizic Sechter from the Lone Magen David Star State of Israel

Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names

Moishe Miller

Perhaps you are aware that at times, a ship manifest my have a Jewish (Hebrew or Yiddish) name, rather than the legal or civil name they became known as later in life. You might find the tombstone of my cousin, Nettie (not Nellie) Spira nee Gottlieb, interesting. Her tombstone records her Jewish name as "Nesheh, daughter of Menashe". You can see it at:
Wishing a Shana Tova to all,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY

Re: JewishGen Discussion Group re: KAMINSKY #russia


Hello - I am very keen to find out more information. I am researching KAMINSKY #russia and have not yet been able to find out when they came to US. This new surname possibility may open new doors for me.

Would love to explore this further.

Thank you,
Elizabeth Kaminsky
Ocean City NJ

Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names

Sarah L Meyer

Do a North American to the European country that your family came from using Jewishgen's given names database,

Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

JewishGen Education offers Independent Study October 3 - 24 #announcements #education #general

Nancy Holden

JewishGen once again offers Independent Study October 3 - October 24.

Create your own project. Looking for records? Hit a brick wall? Want
to write a newsletter? Hire a researcher? An instructor will work with
you to narrow the scope of your project so that you can make progress
in three weeks.

This is mentored Do-it-Yourself, computer-based, online instruction.
Individual readings will be posted according to your research needs.
Students must feel comfortable using a computer and searching databases

Registration: Tuition is $150. Enrollment is limited (10 students).
This class has students worldwide, thus there are no set times; the
Forum is open 24/7.

Application: I suggest you write to the instructor before enrolling
with your project ideas to see if it will yield results in the 3 weeks
of class time. You may create any type of genealogical project. Let
your imagination create a project around your research interests.

More information:

To Register

Send your proposed project and/or questions to education@...

Nancy Holden
Director of Education

ViewMate - Hebrew translation - Two 1894 Starokonstantinov Birth Records #ukraine #translation

Barry E Chernick

I have posted on ViewMate two 1894 Starokonstantinov Birth Records I need
translated. Female #1 (second record) and Male #3 (bottom record).
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Barry Chernick

Re: How to locate family who immigrated from Russia to Israel? #ukraine #israel #russia


Shalom Laurie,
There is information about Moshe Goshen,son of Yerachmiel on the database of IGRA..The Israeli genealogy Association .
I am sending you information from that site.
Shana Tova,
Brenda Habshush.
Sde Boker,Israel.

Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

Sherri Bobish


Have you searched WITKIN at:

A very quick soundex search shows VITKIN as one alternate spelling in the Belarus database.

Perhaps with a soundex search you will find your family.


Sherri Bobish

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Sally Bruckheimer

My grandmother Matilda, Aunt Tilly to those that knew her, was born in NYC as Rosa, for her grandmother. Anything is possible, but most likely something with the same initial sound. Shirley could be Shayna, or Szyfra or something like that. And Libby could be Liba (known as Liby in records - same name), or Laya or whatever.

Sally Bruckheimer

Re: Daniel BLUMENTHAL - family relations #germany #usa #general

Sherri Bobish


Can you explain what you mean by "a valid contact" for the SSDI listing of Daniel BLUMENTHAL?

The SSDI is on-line.  One place to access it is:


Sherri Bobish

Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

Risa Heywood

Genealogy Indexer ( has some Ekaterinoslav directories including a 1903 Yekaterinoslav Gubernia Commemorative Book. They are in Russian but you can search for your family's names using DM Soundex or OCR Adjusted search.

My grandfather, Samuel (Shmuel) Teitzel, was born in Ekaterinoslav. His family immigrated to America in 1904. I haven't yet been able to find any records for them there, though.

Risa Daitzman Heywood

Re: Hi~Searching for Family. GERSZON & POLEJES from Rubezhevichi, Belarus. #belarus


Hi Adam!

id love to touch base with you over the Gerszon name!!

please feel free to call me at +1-941-685-4830. I’m in Sarasota, Florida, USA.

Or, you can email me at Siennastef@...

Israel Gerszon died shortly after his first child, Frances, was born. Frances & her mother, Bejla, immigrated to the US in 1925. This is all I know.

Please contact me by cell or email.

Sincerely, Stefanie

Re: GERSZONOWICZ or GIERSZONOWICZ families from the city of PIOTRKOW (Poland) between 1780 and 1880, from the city of Osjakow (Poland) between 1880 and 1905, from Lodz (Poland) after 1905 #poland #russia #lodz


Hi Dom,

Hi Karen,

I've been searching for Gerszon, which was possibly shortened from Gersonovitz, etc (all the different possible spellings).  My family was from Lodz/Rube........can’t spell it lol!

Please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Stefanie


Re: GERSZONOWICZ or GIERSZONOWICZ families from the city of PIOTRKOW (Poland) between 1780 and 1880, from the city of Osjakow (Poland) between 1880 and 1905, from Lodz (Poland) after 1905 #poland #russia #lodz


Hi Karen,

I've been searching for Gerszon, which was possibly shortened from Gersonovitz, etc.  Please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Stefanie


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Diane Jacobs

For Libby , it is Liba, my grandmother's name.

Diane Jacobs

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Date: 9/11/20 10:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [] Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

What would be the Yiddish/Hebrew equivalent for Shirley and Libby?

Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine

SECHESTOWER, SPIERMAN, THAU, GRAF in Kolomyya area. KANNER, SCHMIDT in Dobrowa Tarnowska. GROSS and FELLNER in Chortkiv.
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names

The Becker's Email

Rather than  looking for Nellie on a ship's manifest, look for Sam's naturalization papers, assuming he was naturalized in Canada.  Those should give details of his arrival.  Once you  know when he arrived and the ship, you can find him on the manifest and the others should be with him.
I would note that the 1911 Canadian census gives Nellie's year of arrival as 1906 (Sam's too) rather than 1905.  So be sure to allow some leeway.  
Also, the 1921 census records that Jacob was naturalized in 1906.  You might look for clues regarding his children.
Source for census records:  Ancestry
Lastly, contact the Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto for help:

Although unrelated to your query, I found a fascinating document on when I was looking for information.  This is a 1910 insurance application by Jacob.  

Johanna Becker

COHENS and GOLDBERGS from Sakiai, Lithuania #lithuania #unitedkingdom

Angie Elfassi

One of my brick walls:
In Leeds, England my mum Beattie née RICHMAN was invited in 1944 to the wedding of Ethel née KASSEMOFF d/o Millie née GOLDBERG (which is where my parents met). According to a story aforementioned Ethel (died 2012) told me years ago, that the reason my Mum and her Mum, Sarah née COHEN born Sakiai, Lithuania, 1878, were invited to Ethel’s wedding was because Mum’s family were related to Ethel's maternal side.
Unfortunately, Ethel didn’t know or remember how they were related.
Ethel's maternal grandfather - Chaim Arye (Lewis) GOLDBERG - had two brothers: Myer Isaac and Max. I have found Myer and Max's naturalisation papers showing that they were from Sakiai, Lithuania. Their parents were Joseph Arye and Esther (Ethel). I also found in Leeds, Esther's tombstone (attached) died age 75 years old, in 1911 (means she was born c. 1836). It says in Hebrew, amongst other things: Esther Rachel d/o Avraham HaCOHEN from Shaki (Sakiai) Lithuania
Aforementioned Sarah nee COHEN (my maternal grandmother) was the daughter of Shmuel Yitzhak b. c. 1841 d. 1916 (in Leeds). His father was Yekutiel Zusman COHEN b. c. 1821.
Is there anyway I can prove that Shmuel and Esther were maybe cousins?
Or could Yekutiel Zusman and Esther be siblings?

I have tested on FTDNA and have started to search for GOLDBERG and COHEN relatives.
Would much appreciate any ideas, suggestions, input.

Angie Elfassi
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds
MULVIDSON, Rezekne, Latvia/Sweden
GREENSTONE, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds
ITMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/USA
KANTOR, Sakiai, Lithuania
GOLDBERG, Sakiai, Lithuania
GELBERG, Kamianka-stromilava, Lvov, Poland
ELFASSI, Settat, Morocco

Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

Alexander Sharon

First telephone directory (телефонный справочник)  in Russia was published in Moscow in 1901. At this time in Moscow were only 2,860 subscribers, mostly business owners and few private phones were assigned to the members of the Empire elite (such as Prince Golitsyn).  In 1904 "Moscow Telephones" company change hands from Bell to Swedish-Dutch-Russia stock company which was engaged in expansion of the phone net following developed by L.W. Ericsson system in Stockholm.

Telephone net expansion took a bit of time in Russia, concentrating mainly on the largest cities, and even if one phone was indeed installed in Ekaterinoslav pharmacy in 1904, who could called the pharmacy, when the all other folks in town have no access to such facility.

Alexander Sharon

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