Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Dr.Josef ASH

Shirley doesn't need any Hebrey equivalent today, as it is rather popular girls name in Israel.
means "song me".
Libbi, if you are interested, means "my heart".
Josef ASH, Israel

Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names


All the names suggested on the previous list are irrelevant.  
Clara - fem. personal name, from Latin Clara, fem. of clarus "bright, shining, clear" .
Other Derivatives : Claire, Clarisse, Clarice, Clarabel, Claribel.
In Hebrew:  Behira בהירה [uncommon].
Less accurate:  Levana לבנה [uncommon]. Means : white [fem.], also another name of the moon.
Oded Freilich

Re: progrom warning #russia


My grandfather reportedly saw his sister raped and murdered during a pogrom when he was a small child.  They lived in Mogilev.  HIs mother did not want to leave home, but she allowed or sent him to emigrate to the USA in 1905 when he was about 12 years old.  His exact age was never known, partly because he lied about his age in order to gain entrance into the country.  I have a 12 year old grandson right now. I cannot imagine sending him across the world never to be seen or spoken with again. I conclude that her love for her son was greater than her self-interest.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names


I did not notice anyone mention that Eleanor is also shortened to Nell, Nellie etc as it is Helen and and Ellen. In Russian Eleonora.  Did you check the Census? Death notices of parents or brother Sam? They may list her and maybe her married name if you don't know it. If you do, search for her death notice and burial and headstone.  You can contact JGS Toronto for further help with cemetery information.

Sue Diamond

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir

Most Libby's are named after a woman named Libe ( love or beloved ) pronounced "LEE-beh. sometimes shown as Liba . It is also possible that it could be Leah/Leye , but that is less likely . 

Shirley is most often Sarah i.e Sore/Sure/Surke/Sorl/Surl etc. , but it could also be Sheyndl (SHEYN-dl ) from sheyn ( pretty or beautiful ) which also yields Sheyne /Shana/Shane/Shena  in English . Shifre ( SHIF-reh ) is also  possible.

As others have said , there are many possibilities,  but the most common are Libe and Sore/Sure etc. 
Henry H. Carrey

Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records


I am interested in the october Pogrom in Ekatarinoslav. Boris Bespaloff, the older brother of my grand mother aged 25 died in that pogrom. Is there any list/information on that particular pogrom. Thanks in advance
Catherine Jurovsky

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Robert Hanna

I had two great grandmothers whose names were written as Lebe.  One had a granddaughter named after her whose name was Libby.

Robert Hanna

Info on relatives in Israel #israel

Relly coleman

I found Polish relatives who lived in Israel before WW2.  They appear on the IGRA index.  Looking for help finding the complete census entry and any other info info about them (when did they arrive in Israel, their relatives, when they dies/buried, address, anything).

Gudal Vaserstein son of Josef -

Rahel Vaserstein daughter of David (wife of Gudal) 

Avram Vaserstein son of Gudal

Rivka Vasershtein, daughter of Yehoshua (wife of Avram) 


Avraham Wasershtein, child of Pinhas, Voters 1925 Jerusalem, Tel Aviv

Brakha VasershteinVoters 1925 Jerusalem, Tel Aviv

Relly Coleman 

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Bruce Brown

Sura is one possibility for Shirley

Bruce Brown
Falls Church, VA

Re: Russian or Hebrew translation of birth record from Kishinev, and ? about dates #translation

Valentin Lupu

Hi Paul,
Both the document and your date converter are correct! The Russian Empire used the Julian Christian calendar until 1918 when the Gregorian calendar (used in most Western countries) was adopted. The Gregorian calendar is ahead by 13 days. If you translate  7 Adar II 5651 to Gregorian, the results is March 17, 1891. It corresponds to Julian March 4, 1891. The one day difference (March 5) is due to the day change in the Hebrew calendar at evening, not at 00 am.
The most known date confusion is the Russian revolution in 1917, called "the October Revolution", October 25, 1917,  led by Lenin. Since then, it was celebrated throughout the communist countries at November 7 each year.

Valentin Lupu

Re: Family of DAVID BARNETT b 1831 & ANNA SAMUEL b 1837 Russian Poland #poland


Wonder if anyone has come across this Family in their Researches , probably Married in 1854 in "Russian Poland" , had 11 Children between 1855 & 1864 , 8 of whom Died during that period ,all being Born in" Russian Poland", survivors being JACOB b 1855,ANNA b 1861,MOSES b 1864 ; emigrated to Sunderland England between 1864-1869 where their Son BARNET BARNETT was born. Family subsequently moved to Birmingham England and appear in 1871 Census under the Surname of DAVIS.
By Walter Scott.

Re: JewishGen Discussion Group re: KAMINSKY #russia

Dexter Moseley

Hi Rica

Hi  Rica

I saw your message Re Kaminsky (we also have a Romanian Moldova Goldberg side -see below

I thought thought on an off chance, if you have any family connections with the following names, Nathan and Sara Raisel Kaminsky originally from Grodno Gubernia  (located within the country, now  known as Belarus), who were my great grandparents  and  had five children, namely,  my grandmother Rae/Rachel (married name Goldberg), the others were Golda (married name Weinstein/Winston), Eva (Weisman), Louis and Sam (both of whom may have changed their last name to Kaye). 
The Kaminsky family left Russia in the early 1900s and they all made their homes in London. Please let me know if this rings any bells?!

Dexter Moseley, London

Re: JewishGen Discussion Group re: KAMINSKY #russia

Dexter Moseley

Hi Elizabeth

I saw your message Re Kaminsky ...I thought thought on an off chance, if you have any family connections with the following names, Nathan and Sara Raisel Kaminsky originally from Grodno Gubernia  (located within the country, now  known as Belarus), who were my great grandparents  and  had five children, namely,  my grandmother Rae/Rachel (married name Goldberg), the others were Golda (married name Weinstein/Winston), Eva (Weisman), Louis and Sam (both of whom may have changed their last name to Kaye). 
This Kaminsky family left what was then Russia in the early 1900s and they all made their homes in London, UK.. Please let me know if it rings any bells?!

Dexter Moseley

Re: Russian or Hebrew translation of birth record from Kishinev, and ? about dates #translation

Rodney Eisfelder

Russian Empire documents generally used the Julian Calendar. In the 19th century, this differed by 12 days from the Gregorian calendar that we are accustomed to. So 5-Mar-1891 (Julian) = 17-Mar-1891 (Gregorian) = 7-Adar2 5651.
for a calculator that caters for Gregorian, Julian, Hebrew and other calendars.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Looking for Yiddish Translation #translation

JONES Etienne H.L.F.

Hello Henry !

Could you be so kind to give me a similar first comment about a text I didn't succeed until now to get a translation of, it dates from . . 1773 ? Very clearly I don't want a translation from you, only a short comment. And . . do you know a paid (serious) professional who would do it ? Thank you very much, I put the text in attachment.
Kind regards,

Etienne JONES
2930  Brasschaat (Antwerp), Belgium
(Canada, Denmark, England, Germany, The Netherlands, United State of America)

Newspapers, Prussia #germany #poland

David Selig

HI all Jewish Genners. 
I am again looking for information on two family members, both from Prussia.

I wonder what newspaper ressources there may be, for newspaper announcements, for births, from 1900 or 1910?  
Or death notices (obituaries), from 1905 - 1920. 

I seek birth notices for : 
Lotte BLUMENTHAL, born 08.04.1900, Koenigsberg
Danny BLUMENTHAL, born 23.10.1910, K'berg

Death notice for Helene WOLFF, mother of one or both of the above
born 1862? Koenigsberg

Thanks for any hlep!
Best to all

Stupki Slave Labor Camp #holocaust

Zev Cohen

In 1942 my late father Moshe was transported by the Germans with other Jews to the Slave Labor Camp Stupki east of Tarnopol. I visited the area some years ago, including the site of the stone quarry where the inmates were worked (or shot) to death as part of the road construction efforts for the German army. I would be glad to hear from others who have knowledge and material about Stupki.
Zev Cohen

Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names


This kind of request comes up regularly. There are no rules when it comes to selecting a secular name for a person who has a Hebrew name, or, in reverse, finding a probable Hebrew name for someone when a secular name is known.   I suggest searching the JewishGen Memorial Plaque Database for the name, and tabulate the results.
I did that for the first 108 matches for secular name Clara, in one random  section of the database, in  the USA.
Chaya 45
Keila 18
Chava 9
Klara/Clara 9
Chaika 6
Chana 4
Ester 2
Shayna 2
Gitel 2
One each:  Yenta, Tzipah, Chasya, Perel, Devorah, Sarah, Keysa. Kala, Krindel, Dinah, Kressla

David Rosen
Boston, Ma

On 9/11/2020 4:14 PM, Saba-isio via wrote:
Hi, Can anyone give me the Equivqlent Hebrew Given Name for Clara?
Thank you in advance, all the best, stay safe , well and healthy and may we all enjoy this coming New Year 5781 in very good health and may the pandemic be eradicated. Aizic Sechter from the Lone Magen David Star State of Israel

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Final Answer:
I want to wish a hearty Thank You to all who responded and provided input. With your help I have found 3 places to store my genealogy online, hopefully for a very long time, where it is searchable but not collaborative. 

1. BEIT HATFUTSOT - the Family Trees section is
just a baby Beta program right now, and so far I have not been able to view my work, but hopefully it will continue to develop and go from strength to strength. The link is

It takes a few days until you get your registration number and can view your tree. 

As of now I’m submitting but reserving judgment until I can search my work. 

2. - I know the history of what some Mormons did with Holocaust names, but I’m going with it anyway. The website is very professionally done. My trees have gone into their archival and searchable GENEALOGIES section (NOT their collaborative Family Tree.) From a computer (not your phone) go to
scroll down past the search section to “upload your genealogy.”  It takes about 15 minutes to process. You must click on “compare” and back again before your upload will move from “processing” to “compare” to “ready.”

3. This website stores, preserves and updates documents, photos and interviews, for 100+ years. It’s amazingly easy to sort and tag the files. This Sunday 9/13 I will take advantage of their sale, and pay a one time flat fee of $200 for 25 GB of online storage. 

These will all be viewable by my family, and in addition I have hard copies of each tree and documentation that will be held by some lucky (?) relative. 😄. Perhaps one day soon I will use the supplemental services of to pull together a book I can store at the Library of Congress. 


So I’ve created a diversified, long term plan for my trees, photos and documents. Thank you all so much for your help and input.

May we all share a happy and HEALTHY New Year.

May you all be inscribed in the Book of Life!
Reba Harris Solomon

Austria Historic Agreement to Secure Jewish Life in Austria #announcements #austria-czech

Jan Meisels Allen



The Jewish Community of Vienna (IKG), has reached an historic agreement with the federal government of Austria to safeguard and foster Jewish life in the long term.  The new law will enable the consolidation of the Jewish Community, securing its infrastructure and the services it has to offer. This includes schools, culture, youth, care, social support, public relations, security and many other areas.


The Austrian government will create a new legal initiative for that purpose. The core of this undertaking is the financial support by the federal government for the Jewish Community in the amount of €4 million annually.


IKG President Oskar Deutsch, said “The new law must also be seen as an anchor of the IKG as our unified community in which all forms of Judaism organize themselves democratically. It is a sad but necessary reality that Jewish life is only possible with professional security measures and the commitment of many community volunteers and employees. At the same time, the close cooperation of our security staff and commission with Austrian authorities have made us one of the safest communities in Europe”.


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


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