Re: Another finding among Bessarabia records - Service Form List #bessarabia #ukraine #records #translation

Jeffrey B. Palmer, MD

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 04:11 PM, Yefim Kogan wrote:
Hello Researchers,

Does anyone read this initial message? 
It seems that I am writing, but I do not have any idea even if this message was read, or what our members think about such records.  Maybe we do not need such records?!

It is really puzzling me what really people are looking for.

I planned to write about at least two more recent findings, but now I am not sure.
I believe that we need your feed back. Without it, it is hard to continue.  It is not that we need to see that you like or not, but we need more details, of WHY you like or you do not.
It is not just about this message.   It would be great to hear from you about our Monthly reports, other postings...  and please post it right here, not personally to me.  Ask questions, give new ideas, suggestions...

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia Research Leader and Coordinator

Your work on Bessarabia Research and your frequent posts to this group are enormously beneficial for me. I have limited access to information about my family in Edinet and the urrounding area where my family lived. The access you provide is as good as gold. I cannot thank you enough. I read your reports with great interest.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Jeffrey B Palmer
Researching PINKOWITZ (Bessarabia), HARFENIST (Galicia), DOCTOR (Bohemia), WEINSTEIN (Russia), SWERNOFSKY (Belarus), 
GELFAND (Ukraine)

Re: Family of DAVID BARNETT b 1831 & ANNA SAMUEL b 1837 Russian Poland #poland

Barry Clarke

I have not yet done any deep research on the BARNETT branch of my family (my grandmother was a Barnett). The first Barnett I am aware of who emigrated from Russia/Poland is JOSEPH BARNETT around 1822. On the 1841 and subsequent censuses, he and other BARNETTS were in South Wales. Certainly, in the 1900s some BARNETTS lived in Birmingham too. Names you give are names in my family too, but the dates and relationships don't match. I have an ESTHER DAVIS whose daughter LOUISA  married my second-great-grandfather HENRY BARNETT (JOSEPH BARNETT'S son). They had a son DAVID BARNETT and a BARNET BARNETT (aka BENNETT BARNETT), who seems to have died at 6 or 7 years old. Whether or not JOSEPH had siblings who emigrated to the UK, and perhaps not to Wales, I don't know. If yes, then there may be a family match. I will keep this thread on file for when I get around to researching the BARNETTS, and of course let you know if I discover a potential link.

I have a question for you or ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH BARNETTS ... Do you have any ideas as to the RUSSIAN/POLISH/HEBREW names BARNETT may have come from?

Thank you,

Barry Clarke
British, living in Sarasota
Researching  STEIGLITZ OR SIMILAR, SZKLARKIEWICZ OR SIMILAR that became CLARKE in London, Dublin, Liverpool, Bulawayo, Cape Town, maybe USA too, BARNETT in Wales, MYERS in Manchester and Cape Town, NEUMARK that became NEWMARK in London and USA, LEVINSON changed to BRAHAM in London. All families originally from Poland.

Re: Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names


And ‘my’ Nettie was Gnesia….

Shel Bercovich,

BERCOVICI - Darabani, RO; GHERBIL - Darabani, RO; LIPKIND - Belarus; KLEBANOV - Belarus; ZWANG - Ukraine; ECHTER - Ukraine;

Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Simon Kreindler

I use REUNION, a program specifically for Mac that I have had for 20+ years and find it does everything I need. The company also offers great support.

Simon Kreinder

Shoshana and Theresia #israel

Peter Heilbrunn


My aunt Theresia Rosmarin nee Feldmann was born in Vienna. She lived and died in Haifa having reached Palestine in 1933.  There is however no death record in her name. I have however found a headstone with the name Shoshana Rosmarin. Could Shoshana be a Hebrew equivalent? 

Also she married sometime between 1933 and 1946. How might I discover a marriage record?

Thanks for your help.

Peter Heilbrunn

Re: Telephone books in Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine in 1904 #general #records

Shlomo Gurevich

I am not sure that telephone books were published in Ekaterinoslav in yearly 1900s. For example, even the big 1913' All Ekaterinoslav book contains lists of businesses, governmental offices and homeowners with their addresses but without phone numbers.  Only some rare advertisements contain them. But maybe the following information can be helpful for you: 
The following pharmacies in Ekaterinoslav are listed in 1903' Ekaterinoslav Gubernia Memory Book:

1. Sartioson heirs' (The Avenue)
2. Pharmacist Oswald's (The Avenue)
3. Pharmacist Gurvich's and its subsidiary (Voyennaya Str.) 
4. Pharmacist Stephanovich's (Alexandrovskaya Str.)
5. Ekaterinoslav Medical Society's (Torgovaya Str.)
6. Pharmacist Bystritzky's (The Avenue) and its subsidiary (Peterburgskaya Str.)
7. Pharmacist Peck-Fon Ammenshild (Pervozvannovskaya Str.)
8. Pharmacist Weinstein (The Avenue)
9. Pharmacist Lemberg's Homeopathic Pharmacy (Sadovaya Str.)

Shlomo Gurevich,
Hoshaya, Israel

Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Claire Bruell

I have used Reunion since 1995 and love it,

Claire Bruell
New Zealand

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Shirley Holton

My name is Shirley after my ggmother Tzirl. The late great Prof Gerry Esterson told me it was a diminutive either of Sara or Tsipporah. 

Shirley Holton
London, England

MANKUNSKI, SHOCHET Simnas Lithuania, AJMINSKI Szczuczyn in Lomza Poland

Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names


Jane Foss,
None of the names you have mentioned is Clara.
What Sara or Chana has to do with Clara? 
To all.
Why such a long discussion about such a simple question: What is the equivalent Hebrew name for Clara? 
Oded Freilich

Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names


The grand mother of my father in law was named Clara and her Jewish name was Keila, which has 18 hits in David Rosen's list.
Oded Freilich's suggested methodology is certainly not the way our ancestors looked at the question  

My wife was named Claire after her great grandmother. However her Hebrew name is Sarah, being born on Shabbat "Chayei Sarah". In her youth though she looked for a Hebrew equivalent as Oded did. She found Bruria, which a special name from a Talmudic heroine. 
Best regards   
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet  Israel 

YIVO Jewish Immigration to America Online Exhibit #announcements #photographs

Jan Meisels Allen





YIVO has extensive immigration collections: rich sources of information about the experiences of some of the over 2.5 million Jews from Eastern Europe who immigrated to America from 1881-1924, Jewish refugees who sought refuge from Hitler in the 1930s-40s, and later waves of Jewish immigrants.


Every one of those immigrants has a unique story. And every piece of paper, every photograph in YIVO’s immigration and migration collections is a gateway to those stories.

To view these remarkable photographs go to:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Question about keeping old newspaper clippings #records

Erika Gottfried

I agree with Harvey, but I'd make it stronger:  If you value these clippings you definitely ought to print out the scans in addition to keeping the digital copies.  Preserving these items with through digital files alone requires relying on a technology that is, as of now, still fickle and fragile.  Print copies are another backup.

Print out the clippings on acid and lignin-free paper.  If you use good-quality toner and keep the printouts in acid and lignin -free folders in acid free boxes, and away from light they can last for up to 100 years. If you can afford pigment-based ink or toner (depending on whether you have a laser or ink jet printer) the printouts will be more stable and last even longer.  None of this is cheap, of course, but it's not impossibly expensive, either.  But if you want to be certain to preserve these items, I counsel this belt and suspenders approach.  Also extremely important is that you make certain either that the newspaper title and date and page number of the story are visible in each of the scans (it's not good enough to include this information in the file name -- it needs to be actually visible as part of the scan itself), or if you didn't do that at the time of scanning, if you have this information write that it on the back of each printout of a clipping -- in pencil, not pen (unless the ink in the pen is acid-free).   If I seem a little fanatical about this, I am, based on more than 25 years as a visual materials archivist.   

If you follow the protocols above you can discard the original crumbling clippings in good conscience, although you might want to retain a few of them to have a sample of the flavor of the original object (in which case, store them in clear polyester or polyproplylene sleeves -- these are acid-free and since they are transparent you can see the items immediately).

Good for you for taking the trouble and time to scan these clippings, and for asking how to take care of them properly.

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Marc Friedman

My great grandmother left Hamburg as Liebe, and US census records , and family notes, have her name as Libby.

Marc Friedman
Irvine CA

Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

loren greenberg


In would appreciate suggestions for simple to use genealogy software for Mac.

Thank you,

Loren Greenberg

ABELOW-Merkine, Lithuania
VOLPIANSKY- Balbierishkis and Kaunas, Lithuania
MILLER,MILNER -Smiltene, Latvia

Re: COHENS and GOLDBERGS from Sakiai, Lithuania #lithuania #unitedkingdom


My fathers maternal side is somehow related to them too, PLATSKY / LASOVSKY from Lithuania, AncestryDNA.  2nd cousin Miriam Herlen Warshofsky-SHOSKI Poland / HERSHKOVITCH Lodz she was born in England, past away couple months ago, we connected to GOLDBERG / COHEN  in England, we just don't know how exactly.  We don't know exactly how we even connected, she never knew her grandparent nor their names, I'm guessing from her mothers side HIRSCHKOVICH. 
 So I'm also interested, Cathy Walters, Elgin,MN

Looking for Bihari from Budapest #hungary


I am looking for my mothers Family from Budapest. Her Maiden was Wilma Irene Bihari. She married my father Morris Taub                                                              Thank you.
Robert Taub

Re: COHENS and GOLDBERGS from Sakiai, Lithuania #lithuania #unitedkingdom

Jeff Miller

I am related to Golda Zewi through DNA and have triangulated with a number of relatives through surnames Goldberg/Berman/Miller/Millner/Mlynarz/Mlynarzewicz. There’s an extensive tree available on Geni that I can refer you to as well.

Best regards,
Jeff Miller

Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Jane Foss

My pgm had 3 names, Chanah, Chara & in the US Jennie, and I m named for her
jane Foss

Re: Question about keeping old newspaper clippings #records

rv Kaplan

Or scan the cutting and print out on quality paper if you feel the need for a hard copy back up.   Bound to be cheaper and easier than treating newsprint in some way.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 22:53, James <james.castellan@...> wrote:
Most newsprint is "cheap" and not at all archival quality paper. It will degrade due to its acidic nature and will yellow and crumble in time. Google to find how you can treat it to neutralize the acid content.

James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA

Re: Question about keeping old newspaper clippings #records


Most newsprint is "cheap" and not at all archival quality paper. It will degrade due to its acidic nature and will yellow and crumble in time. Google to find how you can treat it to neutralize the acid content.

James Castellan
Rose Valley, PA

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