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Re: Equivalent Hebrew Name for Clara #names

Elynn Boss
 

My Grandmother was Chai Devora Brucha with a nickname of Chaika.  Her English name was Clara.

Elynn Boss


Subject: New Holocaust Database Sets - Selected Jewish Refugee Passenger Manifests and Lublin Marriages #germany #poland #holocaust #JewishGenUpdates

Nolan Altman
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce that two new data sets have been added to the Holocaust Database (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/)

Selected Jewish Refugee Passenger Manifests

In the year 1940, two modest-sized sister ships of the Furness-Withy line, the aptly name Newfoundland, and the Nova Scotia made eleven crossings of the Atlantic from Liverpool to Boston. The ships made intermediate stops at St. John’s, Newfoundland, and Halifax, Nova Scotia carrying a total of 1,052 passengers to their Boston destination.  The majority of passengers were Europeans whose home countries, Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland, had been taken over by the Nazis.

Among these were 898 Jewish refugees, fortunate enough or far-seeing enough to have acquired travel documents in time to escape the impending holocaust. During the previous year, 1939, the two ships had made a similar number of Liverpool to Boston voyages but did not carry any Jewish passengers. By 1941 the vessels had been converted for wartime use by the British Navy. One became a hospital ship and the other a transport. Both were eventually sunk during the war.

The database was created by David Rosen. To learn more about this data set, please see https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/RefugeeManifests.html

 

Lublin Marriages (1939 – 1942)

A register of Jewish marriages from the city of Lublin, Poland during the Holocaust period, was found by a Gesher Galicia volunteer, filed away in the Polish State Archives branch in Przemyśl.  (Lublin is not in Galica.) No one knows how it got there or why it was stored there.  Upon finding the register, JewishGen volunteers indexed the records and added it to JewishGen’s Holocaust Database. 

The database was created by Jola Kruszniewska, Robert Lubinski, and Eugene Steingold. Please see https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/LublinMarriages.html to learn more about this data set.

You can search these records, along with all of JewishGen’s records from the Unified Search page at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/ Alternatively, to search the Holocaust Database specifically, please start at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/  You will also find a listing of all the component databases below the search grid.  By entering search terms in the grid, you will search all component databases at once.

Nolan Altman

Holocaust Database Coordinator

September 2020

 


Re: Looking for Bihari from Budapest #hungary

zaida67@...
 

My mother's parents.
Morris bihari also died in the holicaust
He was the son of ester kohn
Morris was born in 1877
And iren fixler was the daugther of maria kepetsiren fixler fathers name “lipot”
Iren was born in 1884
Iren fixler died in the shoa She lived in kisvarda and nyireghaza
My mom vilma Irene birth !!!
It was in 1909 !!!
THANK YOU
Bob Taub


What did Jewish children in the Pale of Settlement call their parents? #names

temafrank1@...
 

I'm talking about little kids (4 years old), in the late 1890s.
Translations I've seen include:

mam & tate
mami & tateshi
eema & abba

Thanks.
Tema Frank
Edmonton, Canada


Look-ups requested in Rosenstein's The Unbroken Chain, newest edition #poland

ruthlynn33@...
 

Hello fellow JewishGeners,

If anyone has access to the newest edition of Neil Rosenstein’s The Unbroken Chain, 5 volumes (2020), I would appreciate it if you might check the pages listed below.

I’m searching for information on my 4x-great-grandfather, Rabbi Ze’ev or Seeb WOLF or WOLFF. He was born around 1750, and may have lived in Radzewo, Posen, Prussia (now Poland). His sons included my 3x-grandfather, Rabbi Arie Lieb/Loebisch/Lewin WOLF or WOLFF (b. 1781, Radzewo - d. 1856, Meseritz, Posen, now Miedzyrzecz, Poland).

According to the online index for the new edition, please check:

Vol. 2, p. 270: WOLF, Zeev
Vol. 3, p. 212: WOLF, Aryey Zev
Vol. 3. pp. 754 & 870: WOLF, Zeev
Vol. 4, pp. 416 & 692: WOLF, Zeev

Thanks very much for your help.

Wishing you all a healthy, sweet New Year.

Ruth Nadelman Lynn
Lexington, MA

Researching: ADLER (Culm, West Prussia & Krone a.d. Braha, Bromberg, Prussia); COHN (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); DEMUTH (Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia); GOTTSTEIN (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); HAMBURGER (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); HIRSCH (Culm, West Prussia); HIRSCHBERG (Culm, West Prussia); HIRSCHFELD (Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia & Rogasen, Obornik, Posen, Prussia); ISRAEL (Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia); ITZIG (Culm, West Prussia & Krone a. d. Braha, Bromberg, Prussia); KANN (Lissa, Posen, Prussia & Thorn, West Prussia); KRAUSE (Rogasen, Obornik, Posen, Prussia); LEWIN (Hohensalza, Posen, Prussia); LEWINSOHN (Berlin, Germany & Culm, West Prussia & Hohensalza, Posen, Prussia & Thorn, West Prussia); MESSNER (Rogasen, Obornik, Posen, Prussia); MOSES (Schwarzenau, Gnesen, Posen & Radzewo, Posen, Prussia & Meseritz, Posen, Prussia); NADELMANN (Schwarzenau, Gnesen, Posen, Prussia & Stettin, Pomerania, Prussia & Berlin, Germany); NORDEN (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); NUERNBERG (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); RUSS (Berlin, Germany & Lissa, Posen, Prussia); SCHEY (Lissa, Posen, Prussia); STREISAND (Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia); WOLF or WOLFF (Meseritz, Posen, Prussia & Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia & Radzewo, Posen, Prussia & Sandberg, Posen, Prussia & Berlin, Germany & Braunsberg, East Prussia & Thorn, West Prussia); WOLFSOHN (Berlin, Germany & Neustadt bei Pinne, Posen, Prussia).


Re: progrom warning #russia

@murfisto
 

My mother, who was born and brought up to the age of 16 in the western edge of what is now Belarus, along the Pripit River, told us about watching Cossacks riding through their village on horseback and wielding sabres and chasing down especially women and children to kill with their swords. She even told of seeing one Cossack on a white horse holding his sword high with an infant impaled on it! Her family was saved by their neighbor Orthodox priest who hid her, her mother and 6 siblings in the cellar of his church where they stayed until the priest told them the Cossacks had left town on their way to another village. The priest told her family that the Cossacks bragged that the Tsar had instigated the pogrom!
Murray Stollman
St Pete Beach, FL


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Dr.Josef ASH
 

I have to reply once more:
Shirli is the female Hebrew name. it appeared in the list of names in the Hebrew Dictionary
Your grandmother had another Hebrew name Shmuela, she had two names: one for day-day use and another for her grandfather memory.
Josef ASH, Israel


Re: USCIS information #records

David Oseas
 

Robert,

Jan provided links to the description of the "A" and "C" files.  There are no "B" files.

Up until the passage of the Cable Act (Sept 22, 1922), women derived their citizenship from their husband, so your grandmothers would have automatically become citizens when your grandfathers naturalized in 1921.  There would be no separate files for them, but they (and any minor children) should be listed on the naturalization petitions.

Although the naturalization documents sometimes list AKA names, it is best to list all the names that the immigrants were known as.


Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
KRONOWITH:
Hungary > New York
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York  
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

jswack@...
 

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 06:50 AM, Bruce Brown wrote:
My mom's Hebrew-English pair was the same as yours, but I just wanted to point out that there were no set pairs of Yiddish and English names, though there were commonly used pairs.

Bruce Brown


Matching names #names

Paul Silverstone
 

#names

When my grandmother Sarah arrived in Canada in 1887 with her mother and
7 siblings, some of the children’s names were different. I am asking
for comments on these names and the names they had after arrival. The
manifest reads:

Deborah Rosen wife 33 (Dest.:) Winnipeg, Man. = born 1854
Sarah dom 16 1871
Scheinie dom 15 1872
Israel lab 13 1874
Rifke child 11 1876
Noah child 10 1877
Czarnia child 9 1878
Chaya child 8 1879
Ichel child 7 1880
Hannah child 4 1883

Leaving out Israel, who was not her child, her children were:

Sarah born 1872
Annie 1874
Rachel (Ray) 1876
Noah 1877
Maggie 1878
Claire 1880 or 1882
Kate 1882 or 1883
Ephraim 1882 or 1880

Sarah, Noah and Rifke (Rachel) match, Ichel is Ephraim. Perhaps one
must disregard the dates given on the manifest. Who do the names
Scheinie, Czarnia, Chaya, and Hannah match? I am fairly sure that
Chaya is Claire, but if Annie is Scheinie, then Hannah must be Kate,
and Czarnia is Maggie. As we know, there was no necessary logical
matching of old and new names.
--
Paul Silverstone
West Vancouver, BC

see: www.paulsilverstone.com


PLUST family #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear genners,
The name Plust is fairly unusual. When I was two years old (I am 90) and my
brother was an infant, my father was hit from behind by a truck and
hospitalized with a fractured skull. My mother ran to the hospital every day
to bring him kosher food. A neighbor, Mrs. Plust, took care of us. I
remember a photo of her children. Her son had lost an eye to a firecracker
and everyone thought it was a good thing because he was not drafted.
Does the name PLUST ring a bell with anyone? I am not sure where the family
originated but they spoke Yiddish.
Thanks in advance
Shana Tova

Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Jerusalem


Re: progrom warning #russia

jbonline1111@...
 

"Childhood, it has been said, is a product of 20th century USA. Our ancestors, as young people, were expected to do chores, work jobs, and take care of themselves. One of my ggrandmothers came to the US alone, at age 11, after her mother died and her father remarried. She was marked as '8 and under' on the passenger list, probably a lower price for kids." Sally Bruckheimer

Sally misses the point.  My own children were expected to work and do chores from age 2, appropriate to their ages, of course. It's one thing to expect children to work and quite another to send them thousands of miles away knowing they will never be seen again. In the nineteenth century, most extended families still lived near each other and depended on each other. 

While I didn't mention it earlier, it's very obvious to me that my grandfather's behavior as an adult was shaped in part by this early separation from his family.  It is not necessary to go into details.
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Another finding among Bessarabia records - Service Form List #bessarabia #ukraine #records #translation

Molly Staub
 

Hi Yefim, As I've written you privately. I rely greatly on your knowledge and and your desire to help. It has opened up many doors to me over the years. It's laughable how much stock people place in the variations of given names. Often English-speakers will choose an Anglicized name that begins with the same letter (i.e. Moishe becoming Morris), but in many cases there's no rhyme or reason. When Chana becomes Marilyn, it's apparent that somebody just chose a name that they liked,
Be well, Molly Arost Staub
M. A. in Journalism

RESEARCHING
Bessarabia:
Arost/Harast/Kharest 
Shtoffman

Ukraine and England:
Berenson (many variations)
Groffman/Graffman
Gershman

And all those name in Philadelphia and South America


Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Bberiman597
 

I use Reunion and love it!  Barbara Berman


Re: USCIS information #records

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Robert asks about USCIS and the website; It is: https://www.uscis.gov/records/genealogy

Googling What is an "A" FILE gets:


Googling what is a "C" File



You can always look at past postings on USCIS by using the JewishGenDiscussion Group archives:  https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/topics  

and type in USCIS in the search file  there were 585 "hits" when I did it.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson,IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee








Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

Laurie Sosna
 

For me, the way the program looks affects how I interact with it and how I use it.
I have used Reunion for years and I like it very much.
Reunion, RootsMagic, MacFamilyTree have demo versions to try.
Family Tree Maker is another option, but i can't find a link for a demo version.
How easily can you find your way around, add records, attach files, make charts?
How are the help files? Is there online or telephone support?
Commercial software tends to be more maintained and may have better support.
Also consider is the cost of the software over time.
Reunion costs $99.
As the software is revised and new features added, you pay for upgrades-$49.95.
You don't have to upgrade, but it is something to consider when you evaluate your options.
In the time I've owned the software, I've paid for at least 3 upgrades.

Laurie Sosna


Naturalization record #usa #records

Toby Ellis
 

I am trying to find the naturalization record of my great aunt Ida Sohn.   She was born in 1893 in Russia.  Family Search didn't have the actual record when I did a catalog search.  They show just an index  record recorded in Bronx County.  It is in a Declaration  of Intention Index volume 1914-1927 S-T, Volume 92, Record 200.  There is a D22 in the right top of the index entry.  How can I obtain a copy of the full document?

Toby Ellis


Re: Suggestions for Simple Genealogy Software for Mac #general

carol_bradford@...
 

Ditto. Reunion for Mac is reliable, well supported and works with almost any website and software I have
 encountered in the last 25 years or so.

Carol Bradford


Re: Yiddish/Hebrew name Shirley and Libby #names

Andrew Sverdlove
 

Libby was popular Americanized English for Leah

Andrew Sverdlove


USCIS information #records

Robert Hanna
 

I need some help before the fees go up.  I know there was some info on this recently, but I can't find it, and I'm not sure it answers my specific questions.  So, I apologize for any repetition.
 
My paternal grandfather emigrated to New York from Warsaw in 1907, returned to Europe, and then returned to New York in 1908.  He became a citizen in 1921.  I have his manifests on the Zeeland and the Lusitania.  I also have his Declaration and Petition for Naturalization.
 
My paternal grandmother emigrated to New York from Babruysk in 1905.  I have her manifest on the Rotterdam.  There are no separate naturalization papers for her.
 
My paternal grandparents were married in NYC in 1910.
 
My paternal grandmother's father and mother emigrated to New York from Babruysk in 1906 and 1907, respectively.  I have their manifests on the Rotterdam and the Campania.  I have not located naturalization papers for them as yet.  They were already married in Europe.
 
My maternal grandfather emigrated to New York from Minsk in 1913.  He became a citizen in 1921.  I have his manifest on the President Lincoln.  I also have his Declaration and Petition for Naturalization.
 
My maternal grandmother emigrated to New York from Minsk in 1914.  I have her manifest on the Ryndam.  There are no separate naturalization papers for her.
 
My maternal grandparents were already married in Europe (at least that's what I have been told).
 
Now my questions:
 
1.  I remember seeing something about A files and C files.  What are the differences?  Is there a B file?
 
2.  Would there be separate files on the women even though they don't have separate naturalization papers?
 
3.  How would I apply for these files?  I have been to the USCIS website and it is confusing.  I didn't see anything about A files or C files, nor did I see anything about genealogy.
 
4.  Last, my paternal grandfather's name and birth date were different on every document.  Do I have to give all the names in order to receive all his papers?
 
I would appreciate an answer to all 4 questions and any other helpful information.  Time is of the essence.
 
Thank you,
Robert Hanna
NYC
 
 

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