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Re: Zagradowka, Ukraine #ukraine #latinamerica

Sherri Bobish
 


Merrie,

I did read that Mennonite farmers settled in that area, and that Jewish farmers co-settled with German Mennonite families.

And, quoting from the website noted below:
"Zagradovka Colonies   The Zagradovka colonies were to the west of the Ingulez River on 60,000 acres.  The land was purchased by Leo V. Kochubey in 1871 for the purpose of establishing daughter colonies for the Molotschna Mennonites.  There were 16 colonies settled between 1872 and 1883.  Another colony to the north, Nikolaidorf, considered itself a part of the Zagradovka settlement except administratively.   It was sold in 1908 to Russians."

https://www.germansfromrussiasettlementlocations.org/p/maps.html


Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

David Mason
 

Has anyone checked with the district civil registry (РАЦС = RATS in Ukrainian; ЗАГС = ZAGS in Russian)?  Ostroh is the administrative center of its district, so the civil registry for the whole district would be there.   Looks like their phone is +380 (3654) 2-30-92.  Email: vcs@... 

 

Phone calls should probably be done by someone fluent in Russian or Ukrainian, but emailing in English might actually work.  Chances are reasonably good that someone in the registry knows English, or they can recruit someone to translate.

 

-David Mason, Los Angeles


L'Shana Tovah v'Metuka #general

Yefim Kogan
 

Dear Researchers,

Shana Tovah! 

Happy New Year to all of you.  Let's new 5781 bring hope for everybody.

Be safe and healthy.

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia group Leader and Coordinator


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Nancy Reicher
 

How about Records from Cherson City and Odessa.

Nancy Reicher


Re: Registry Files: USCIS information #records

Marian
 

No, the purpose of creating records under the Registry Act of 1929 was to belatedly create an arrival record so it could be used as the basis of a certificate of arrival.  The ability to issue a certificate of arrival was the whole point of Registry proceedings.

That said, if the certificate of arrival number has the letter "R" in it (as in #-R-#####) or you find the word "Registry" written or stamped on the document, those can be clues to the existence of a Registry File.

Marian Smith


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

JoAnne Goldberg
 

When  I first tested, I had this naive hope that I'd get some clues as
to where my father's family lived prior to immigrating to the United
States. No such luck! All anyone (Ancestry, 23, MH, FTDNA) can tell me
is that I'm Jewish which I already kinda knew.

The problem with the different sample populations is that records are
sparse in most countries. The members of the sample may think their
ancestors lived in the same country for the last 500 years, but
generally no proof other than family lore.  Ancestry even says that they
use family trees as an input, and we know how well-documented a lot of
those are. So for non-Jews, it's a best guess estimate that will
continue to evolve as Ancestry et al refine their samples.
--
JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

Elaine King
 

I appreciate all the answers to my question. Altogether, it just gets more confusing. I have a great-nephew who says my father's family came from Krustpils, Latvia. I can find no records indicating this, and he won't answer me as to why he thinks this. I found a list of residents of Krustpils, but their name wasn't on it. My mother said my father's family came here from Riga, though they were Prussian. But again, there is no record I can find to indicate this. I thought they might have belonged to a synagogue there, and wrote the officials in Riga asking this, but they couldn't find any records either. All I know is that the US immigration records consistently say Russia, which, from what everyone is saying, might mean anywhere. I also appreciate the information about why they knew English. Since they were merchants, that would make sense.

Elaine King


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Sam G.
 

שנה טובה

May we be pandemic-free in 5781!
--
-Amnon Gronner, USA
Researching GRONNER SANDLER


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Teewinot
 

To all the amazing people who work so hard to make JewishGen the
incredible resource that it is and to everyone else here, I wish you all
the same! Nothing but sweetness.

Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida


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Wishing you all a Shana Tova, and a year filled with health, happiness,
and only good things!
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Re: Hungarian Diary Translation Needed #general #hungary #translation

Peter Cherna
 

How much text is there? If it's a modest amount, then posting to ViewMate as Julia suggested can work. There are also Facebook forums where volunteers are doing an incredible service helping people understand Hungarian documents.

If there are lots of pages, it may be beyond what you can expect volunteers to respond to. If it's poetry, you may also want to capture some of the artistry, and not just the gist of the names and topics.

I have about 80 letters my grandmother wrote to my father, and I found a translator on www.fiverr.com that I paid for the work. I sent samples to a few of the people offering services, and picked the best result to send the rest of the letters to, and in my case I was super satisfied. I knew my grandmother when I was very little so I was able to "hear" her personality in the best of the translations. If you want the name and link of the specific translator on Fiverr that I ended up using, send me a private message.

Peter Cherna


Re: 50 State Survey Finds One Out of 10 Millennials and Generation Z Didi Not Recall Word 'Holocaust: or Basic Facts of the Genocide #announcements # holocaust #announcements #usa

jskippon@...
 

I first read this in The Guardian and our family emails did the expected outrage. Then my 25 year old grandson researched and brought up the survey responses themselves. I was shocked at how distorted the report was. For example:

"Sixty-three percent of those surveyed did not know that 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, and over half of those thought the death toll was fewer than 2 million."

9. Approximately how many Jews were killed during the Holocaust?  Please select from the following list:

 

25,000              5%

100,000            6%

1 million            10%

2 million            15%

6 million            37%

20 million          10%

Not sure            17%

Personally, I would include all responses between 1 million and 20 million as knowing something about the scale of the Holocaust. But the writer chose only those who answered accurately.

I was a small child in Brooklyn when the Holocaust happened, and I found out about it in 1950 by reading Life Magazine. I don't remember ever being taught about it in high school, but self-taught myself by reading and then at 63 studying it at university. We are making assumptions that everyone knows the history of the 20th century, but I think we need to accept that we have a legacy to pass on. I don't mean just the Holocaust, but also a time when social justice was considered important.I could add many more values and qualities, but you know what I am talking about.

The full survey responses is in the link - http://www.claimscon.org/millennial-study/ but you need to go to almost the end, just before the list of States, and click on Millennial National Topline.

Jessica Skippon

Researching: SCHANZER, BORGER, BIRN, JACHZEL, Andrychau, Wadowice, Bielsko Biala



 


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

EdrieAnne Broughton
 

I'm one of your non-Jewish posters.  I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood in Los Angeles.  My friends were mostly Jewish.  My mother had studied anthropology in college and reading was our main 'sport'.  It hasn't changed even in my mid 70s.  I recently finished a Great Courses on Audible on the Ottoman Empire.  I really recommend this geographical history and cultural history to anyone who has roots in Southeastern Europe and Asia Minor.  This includes Christians, Jews and Sunni Muslims.  Many of you who know that Russia had control of parts of your ancestors' homelands completely miss the fact that the Ottomans had control of it for longer that Russia was even a factor.  The Ottomans had a much different management style than the Hapsburgs, Russians or Prussians.  
EdrieAnne Broughton
Vacaville, California   


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa
 

Alex Krakovsky does have posted an additional revision List for Volyn Province 1883 which has data from Ostrog on p. 69 and 145 archive ref 118-14-93 link (copy this into the browser dont click on it)
Additional auditory tales of the Volyn province. 1881–1883 // RAIN. F. 118. Op. 14. Ref. 93.

As Chuck says this has not been digitized or indexed.  while just before your date it may have information on the parents

Gary Pokrassa
gpokrassa@...
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division
JewishGen.org


Re: DNA results vs records #dna

rich.meyersburg@...
 

I received Ancestry's new estimates of ethnicity yesterday along with great fanfare and their airy comments of new definitions and greater accuracy.  Mine changed from 100% European Jewish to 100% European Jewish.  Nope not a typo. No further definitions.  My father's family came from Hanover and Hess in Germany, and Bydgoszcz in Poland (then Bromberg in Prussia), and the Grodno gubernia which was Russia and is now in Belarus, and my mother's from Hungary, and Transylvania (formerly Hungary, now Romania) - A good solid mix of European Jewish ancestry.  If one looks at the US Census records, he/she can see how the country of origin listings change for a person over the years according to who reigns over the territory, and as we have seen they are still changing. L'Shana Tovah.  Rich Meyersburg, Laurel, MD
 


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Chuck Weinstein
 

Unfortunately, there are no known birth or marriage records from Ostrog (modern Ostroh, Ukraine).  The Regional Museum in Ostroh possesses a portion of the 1886 Revision List (census). To our knowledge, it has not been digitized.or indexed.  Sorry we can't be of more help.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, JewishGen Ukraine Research Division
chuck1@... 


Re: Hungarian Diary Translation Needed #general #hungary #translation

JPmiaou@...
 

I suggest picking a page or two and posting on ViewMate. Poetry translation really depends on the specific poem, so while I'm willing to give it a try, I don't want to commit to the whole thing, and posting to VM would give others a chance to try, as well.

Julia Szent-Györgyi
./\ /\
.>*.*<


Yizkor book for Jaroslaw #galicia

Dan Rottenberg
 

This is a call to anyone with Jewish roots in Jaroslaw, Poland (formerly Galicia). A yizkor book for Jaroslaw—"Sefer Yaroslav: gal-'ed le-zekher 'irenu"— was published in 1978 in Tel Aviv. JewishGen has the original Hebrew version online. But it's never been translated into English, except for the table of contents. JewishGen tells me such a translation project would cost $9-$10,000 and would require a volunteer coordinator. I can't spare the time to coordinate this project but would be willing to put up one-third of the needed funds. If anyone else would like to step forward to coordinate and/or contribute to this project, please respond here or contact Lance Ackerfield at lackerfeld@....
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PAdan@...


Re: 50 State Survey Finds One Out of 10 Millennials and Generation Z Didi Not Recall Word 'Holocaust: or Basic Facts of the Genocide #announcements # holocaust #announcements #usa

Sarah L Meyer
 

Amazing.  I am so sad that so many states have so little awareness, and glad to see that my former home state Iowa is among the ones with a greater awareness.  When we lived there, there were a number of survivors, most of whom are no longer living.  
--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Info and questions please #general #russia

Sarah L Meyer
 

Kherson is a guberniya in what is now the southern Ukraine.  It is not in Galicia.  You can find information in the Ukraine SIG or the Jewish communities database on Jewishgen

--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: 🍎🍯 Shana Tova from JewishGen!🍎🍯 #JewishGenUpdates

Sarah L Meyer
 

L' Shana Tova Tikutevu v' tikutema.  May you all be inscribed and sealed for a healthy, happy and prosperous New Year.
--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com

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