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Re: JewishGen's Family Tree of the Jewish People #JewishGenUpdates

ifolkson@...
 

JewishGen is in the process of updating our family trees.  Please be patient.

Iris Folkson


ISERSTEIN #names

peter isert
 

Good day colleagues 
I’m having problems identifying if there are any ISERSTEINs alive out there I may be related to 
I am the son of Herbert Charles Iserstein from Vienna
born 1921, whose father was Rudolph Iserstein & whose uncle was Paul Iserstein both from Prague originally.
Looking forward to hearing back or at least discovering any leads
Kind regards 
Peter Isert
Sydney 
Australia


Re: Does anyone know the shtetl in Lithuania where Rafuel and (Blume) Gertie Nillis Gilinsky lived? #lithuania

Steve Stein
 

Based on hits on the JGFF and the LItvak SIG database, I would guess Svencionys.

Steve Stein


Re: Searching for KRAVIZTSKY and REZNIK #ukraine

Beth Erez
 

Hi Valerie
My grandfather was born Israel Krevitsky in Aleksandria/Oleksandrya Ukraine (but it was then Russia).  We know his parents were Abraham and Yetta Krevitsky and that he had a sister named Mariasia.  That is it.  We know nothing else except that he immigrated to the United States in 1904 but we believe he left Russia a few years earlier.  We always thought he was from Odessa but discovered Aleksandria/Oleksandrya  on shis US Naturalization papers, and then later on many of his sister's children's documents.  Do you know what town or shtetl your family was from? my guess is that his name was changed to Mauritzio from something else like Moshe or Maurice or Max.  
Good luck
BethErez
Hod Hasharon, Israel


Re: Naming Conventions #names

Jill Whitehead
 

My great grandfather was called Nathan Abrahams and he came to Manchester, UK in 1867 from Suwalki town in NE Poland. He was born Chackiel Ceglarski but dropped the Ceglarski in favour of his patronymic Abraham or Abram (his father's name).  He was also known as Casper by his family (a variation of Chackiel ) in Britain and Charles by his brothers in the USA. His Hebrew name was Ezekiel. He called his first son Abraham Abrahams or Abrams after his father. 

I have no idea where the name Nathan came from, but it only appeared when he came to Britain (as far as I am aware), but he had nine children (8 born in Manchester), and his eldest grandsons were variously called Nathan or Neville, but several had the middle name Casper.

A lot of first sons were called Abraham by different parts of my family, but they were often known by their second name e.g. Abraham Harris,  or these Abraham's became variously Arthur, Albert or Arnold.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Naming Conventions #names

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Carl,
You asked "When did the practice start for using the first letter of a deceased relative's name for a child, rather than the whole name? Example being naming a child Carl, after his grandfather Charles?"
You picked a curious example, since they are the same name, one being the German version, the other the French. This was brought home to me when I saw Karl Marx's registration papers from his stay in Brussels in 1846 - his name is clearly shown as Charles Marx. Karl was born in 1818. The family surname came from his grandfather, who was named Mordechai, not Marx.

My great-grandfather's brother William, was born in Bamberg, Germany in 1837. He was either named after William IV who died the same year, or after his grandfather Wolf, who died in 1832.

The answer to your question will depend on where the grandparent died, where the grandchild was born, and the level of cultural assimilation of the parents.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Palestine Censuses of 1922 and 1931 for Ness Ziona, Israel #israel #records

Yariv Timna
 

Hi Ava
If you write their names, people can search for them, in other forms as well.
IGRA and other sites has many documents other than these censuses.
Shana Tova
Yariv Timna


Re: Do old hotel registers exist? #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Boris,
 
If he crossed the border from Canada to the USA, then you might possibly find some airplane or train manifest reflecting this.
 
 
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Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
 

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GILINSKY in Lithuania #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

GILINSKY was a prevalent name in Svencionys, Lithuania and there are many listings for the name
In the LitvakSIG All Lithuania Database, which you can search at www.litvaksig.org

Judy Baston


The September Issue of the Galitzianer #galicia #announcements

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

We are delighted to announce the release of the September 2020 issue of the Galitzianer. For those of you journeying into your Galician Jewish roots, this issue includes articles that can help you navigate genealogy databases and interpret vital records. Other articles focus on Galician history. For example, what was it like to be part of the ongoing debate between Jews and Poles during the tempestuous times of 1848, or to be in Brody when the 1867 fire set the town ablaze? In other articles, you will discover what drove a Hasidic young woman to sue her religious parents and how a boy from Grodzisko Dolne ended up in a Nazi concentration camp in the Netherlands.

These questions and more are answered in the September 2020 issue of the Galitzianer, which includes the following articles:

  • “Tutorial: Databases for Galician Genealogy” by Mark Jacobson
  • “Tutorial: Understanding Vital Records” by Tony Kahane
  • “The Battle for Jewish Rights” by Andrew Zalewski 
  • “When Brody Burned to the Ground” by Zack Rothbart
  • “The Intellectual Passion of Anna Kluger” by Rachel Manekin
  • “The Boy from Grodzisko Dolne” by Amanda Kluveld and Jan Weitkamp
  • “President’s Page” by Steven S. Turner
The Galitzianer is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia, though anyone is invited to submit articles on Galicia-related themes. For membership information, visit our website at
www.geshergalicia.org/membership/. For details on submitting an article, please review our submissions policy (www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/#submissions) and contact me at
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Gesher Galicia

 


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History can help understand DNA ethnicity profiles: an example #dna

Joseph Walder
 

A non-Jewish friend has great-grandparents who came from Sweden (maternal side) and Germany (paternal side). The latest iteration of her DNA ethnicity profile from Ancestry indicates a Swedish component approaching 75% and a German component of only a few percent. This result seems baffling until one considers an important detail: the German ancestors came from the region of Pomerania, that is, from along the south shore of the Baltic Sea. Pomerania (which with post-1945 borders is now mainly Polish territory) was only incorporated into the Germanic world in about the 15th century. The population along the south shore of the Baltic at that time was a mixture of Slavs, Balts, Finnic peoples, and Swedes--and indeed the friend's Ancestry DNA profile indicates greater Slavic, Baltic and Finnic contributions than Germanic. A plausible interpretation is that her German great-grandparents were the descendants of non-Germanic people who assimilated to German culture and language several centuries ago.

To the extent that Ashkenazi Jews intermarried with and assimilated non-Jews, the surprises that some Jews find in their DNA ethnicity profiles are, well, unsurprising.

Populations have always mixed with each other. Geography, culture and language cannot be simply superposed on one another. History can provide very useful guidelines for interpreting DNA profiles.

Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon
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Re: Vinnitsa 1811 & 1834 Census #ukraine

geolup4
 

I would be most appreciative if they could check for Lupinsky/Lupinskij in these censuses.

Many thanks,
Georgia Lupinsky


New records on the all GALICIA database, Progress on PRZEMYSL ID project #galicia

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia is pleased to update readers on the progress in
indexing Jewish Galician records. Since the end of January 2020 the
following records have been indexed and uploaded to our All Galicia
Database, freely available for all at:
https://search.geshergalicia.org.

A. Vital records

a) Kopyczynce
- Jewish births (certificates) 1842, 1877-1911; also a handful of
Jewish death certificates (1875, 1895) and marriage certificates
(1912-1914, 1929).
- Jewish births (index book) 1895-1942

b) Kosow
- Jewish births 1842-1868

c) Kroscienko
- Jewish births 1919-1926, 1931, 1937-1938
- Jewish deaths 1930-1938; death certificates 1902, 1935-1938

d) Lezajsk
- Jewish deaths 1827-1866

e) Mosciska
- Jewish births 1925-1937
- Jewish deaths 1899-1926

f) Nawaria
- Jewish births 1876-1877, 1879-1882, 1896-1897
- Jewish deaths 1879-1887

g) Podhajce
- Jewish births 1853-1881, 1884, 1886-1889
- Jewish deaths 1878-1880, 1882-1884, 1892-1895

h) Stanislawow
- Jewish births 1933, 1934, 1938
- Jewish marriages 1938
- Jewish deaths 1934-1935, 1937-1938

i) Stanislawow province
A small number of assorted Jewish birth certificates, marriage
certificates and death certificates, from the period 1870-1934.

j) Strusow
- Jewish births 1837-1870
- Jewish marriages 1853-1859, 1862, 1870

k) Tarnopol
- Jewish deaths 1834-1845

l) Tyszkowce
- Jewish residents 1922

Many of the above records are held in the Ukrainian state archives, in
Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk. So far this year, we have completed the
indexing of all the Jewish vital record sets held in the Ukrainian
state archives from Kosow, Mosciska, Podhajce, and Stanislawow.

Vital records coming soon:
- Strusow D 1837-1838, 1840-1870; D (index book) 1934-1938
- Kopyczynce M (index book, grooms only) 1920-1938
- Tarnopol B (index book) 1816-1860

Gesher Galicia thanks Slawomir Postek and Paulina Postek for all their
indexing work, and Piotr Gumola and Pawel Malinowski for further
processing and uploading the spreadsheets.

B. School records
- Brzozow Jewish pupils 1920-1939
- Gorlice Jewish pupils 1893-1925
- Przemysl Jewish pupils and teachers 1938-1939

Gesher Galicia is grateful to the following people for sourcing,
indexing and donating to us the spreadsheets of the above records:
Suzan Wynne (Brzozow), Russ Maurer (Gorlice), and Lukasz Biedka (Przemysl).

C. Jewish taxpayer records
The following record sets, all from the former Tarnopol province, have
been uploaded to the All Galicia Database in the past seven months:

Narajow (1937), Olesko (1936), Uscieczko (1936), Zbaraz (1936), and
Zloczow (1936).
Thanks to Eddy Mitelsbach and Mark Jacobson for their help with these records.

Taxpayer records from the 1930s coming soon: Podkamien (Tarnopol
province), Sasow, and Sokolowka.

D. Holocaust-period records
Gesher Galicia has two new spreadsheets from the Holocaust period -
one of Lwow ghetto residents, 1941-1943 (over 10,000 entries), and the
other of Krakow Jewish residents, July-August 1940 (over 19,000
entries).

The history of these spreadsheets is similar and in each case goes
back some 15-20 years. The Krakow material is held at the Jewish
Historical Institute (JHI) in Warsaw. Originally, JHI microfilmed the
material for USHMM in Washington, DC. Volunteers from USHMM and Gesher
Galicia then indexed the documents, and the spreadsheet was presented
to Gesher Galicia. At the time, Gesher Galicia had no online search
engine, and so gave the spreadsheet to JewishGen. Recently, JewishGen
returned the spreadsheet to Gesher Galicia, so that it could also be
uploaded to our database.

The Lwow ghetto material, from a range of different files, is held at
the State Archive of Lviv Oblast (DALO). Many years ago, USHMM
microfilmed and indexed the documents. The subsequent story of this
spreadsheet, which recently came back to Gesher Galicia, is similar to
that of the Krakow spreadsheet.

Both USHMM and JewishGen also have these two spreadsheets on their
online databases. Gesher Galicia is grateful to all the organizations
involved (JHI Warsaw, DALO, USHMM, and JewishGen) and to the
volunteers who worked on indexing the records. Thanks, too, to Pawel
Malinowski for a significant amount of work on both spreadsheets,
before uploading them to the database.

E. Przemysl Identification Project

Finally, an update on the Przemysl Identification Project.
Our public notice explains the project and lists all those involved in
it. Please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/przemysl-id/

To date, 250 of the 577 index books in the project (43%) have been
identified. Of these, 228 books have so far been verified. Gesher
Galicia members can view the table, which is regularly updated, of all
the books whose identification has been verified, along with the scans
of the books themselves, in the members-only area of Gesher Galicia's
website.

We thank all those who are involved with or supporting this project in
a range of ways, including the project coordinator, Piotr Gumola. We
also want to mention the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical
Society for its generosity.

If you are not already familiar with them, you may want to look into
Gesher Galicia's:

- GlobalSearch facility: https://inventories.geshergalicia.org/#/
- Inventories: https://www.geshergalicia.org/inventories/
- Research projects: https://www.geshergalicia.org/projects-overview/

To join Gesher Galicia, please go to: https://www.geshergalicia.org/membership/

Tony Kahane
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
https://www.geshergalicia.org/

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Does anyone know the shtetl in Lithuania where Rafuel and (Blume) Gertie Nillis Gilinsky lived? #lithuania

Barbara Levy
 

The Gilinskys had 5 girls, Chaya Riva, Shayla, Sora Feigel, Yudis, and Fruma Devasha (B.1884). Gertie died when she was in her 30s and Rafuel died when he was in his 40s. Their daughter Chaya Riva raised the children. She married a man named Harry Grimm. 
Barbara Levy


Re: JewishGen's Family Tree of the Jewish People #JewishGenUpdates

Max Heffler
 

Ellen,

                Each New Year’s Day I choice the “replace” option.

 

Max Heffler

 

I have been wanting for a long time to post an update of my family tree
on JewishGen.  Does JewishGen have any plans to allow people to do this
or has this aspect of JewishGen been discontinued?

Ellen Barnett Cleary
San Francisco CA USA

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Do old hotel registers exist? #general

boris
 

 

The question is both general, of possible interest to many, and specific, addressed to Miami mavens.

 

A relative, born Naftali Lasutra in Pulin, Ukraine, who changed his surname to Lester - or similar - stayed in the Lord Balfour Hotel in Miami, during one Pesach in the 1950's. I cannot find his traces in Toronto, where he lived and assume that the name as remembered phonetically by his Russian relatives is incorrect. Therefore, I would like to put my hands on this hotel's guest register, provided it exists and learn his name as it was written in English.

 

Thank you very much!

 


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Dalat in Toronto? #general #canada

boris
 

This is a follow up to a post from last week about Naftali Lasutra and his wife Hannah/Nekhama or Khaya who lived in Toronto between 1920's - 1960's. While in Canada, he changed his surname to Lester. It is possible, he changed his first name as well.

 

In a just discovered 1950's postcard to his brother in Ukraine, he writes, in Yiddish: "...I will go to Toronto after Pesach... Write me to Dalat..." It is not 100% clear that the word was read correctly, but the consonants appear to be right.

 

Not being familiar with the history and geography of Toronto, "Dalat" sounds to me like the name of a famous apartment building or a business, e.g. "Dalat, Cohen & Lester, Accountants" or similar. One similarly sounding name found on the web is "Duluth Metals Limited", in business today.

 

Any other suggestion is greatly appreciated. The man's photo can be viewed at https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86441. It bears a stamp on verso: "Famous Photo Studio 285 College St   Kl. 8843 Toronto Ontario"

 


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Re: DNA results vs records #dna

majorosklara@...
 

A small thing about changing borders, citizenships, living mobile or staying put in Eastern Europe.

Living in today’s Ukranian Zakarpatska Oblast, formerly Ruthenia, Kárpátalja, etc. meant that born in 1918 by 1991 you could be the citizen of many different countries—the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, the Ruszka Krajna Autonom Territory, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, the Soviet Union and the Ukraine—even without leaving your house.

Klara Majoros


Re: Naming Conventions #names

karen.silver@juno.com
 

The choice of whom to name a child after has always been made by the parents regardless of who died in what order.  And it was not required that children be named after deceased grandparents.  That was an honor given by the parents based on the regard they felt toward the deceased relative.  And I should add that it was a joint decision.
 
When naming a child born in the US after someone who died, my maternal grandparents who were married in Russia chose American names closest to the Yiddish or Hebrew names of the deceased. However, as these first generation children grew up, they Americanized their names.  For example, my mother's sister Bessie became Bernice. My paternal grandparents who were married here, Americanized their children's first names when they were born and gave them Hebrew names that were used for religious ceremonies.  My father was named  Bernard Howard after his grandfather Baruch Hirsh but went by the name Howard.
 
This naming convention of using the first letter of the deceased's name has continued and evolved further.  Some people are named after more than one person using their first and middle names and others are named after someone using just their middle name.


Re: 1869 Hungarian Census #hungary #translation

Shana Millstein
 

Thank you for responding and sorry about my failure to include the link. I got confused when posting-forgetting that I had to post the image, get it approved, and then put out the request!! The links were the following:https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86535
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86536