Hebrew Translation of Gravestone - ROSENBERG, NATHAN (NISEL) #translation


My great-grandfather, Nisel Rozenberg (Nathan Rosenberg), came to the US in 1902 and is buried at Washington Cemetery NY. The inscription on his grave is very long and descriptive and I have not been able to get a translation. I know he died because of an accident - his death certificate says something about a head injury. I would appreciate it if someone could translate this for me. Thank you.

Deborah Miller, Annandale, VA

Galicia on United States 1920 Census Data #galicia


I was just going over some old census data from my ancestors and I read for place of birth of the "person" as "Galicia POA". The place of birth for the mother and father were both filled out as "Galicia AU". What would the reason for this be? Could something have changed between generations? Thanks.

Matthew Levine

Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine


I came across a similar issue with my ancestors. A lot of my ancestors wrote down on their naturalization documents the "governorate" where they were from in Russia as opposed to the city. Some may not have remembered and some "governorates" shared names with cities and other places. For example an ancestor of mine put down Podol/Padol on numerous documents. That was a "governorate" in Russia at the time and there were other cities/towns that shared that name, close and far.
In your case, Mohilev was a city in Russia and at the time and was in the "governorate" of Mohilev. Mohyliv-Podilskyi, at the time, was also a city in Russia, but in the "governorate" of Podolia. If I had to bet I would put my money that when your great-grandfather said he was a citizen of Mohilev, that he was referring to the "governorate" of Mohilev.

Happy New Year!
Matthew Levine

Need a translation of a yiddish letter #translation


This letter on the back of a family picture was sent from two survivors to a living uncle in New Orleans Louisiana.


Hymie Reichstein


Re: Jewish Schools in 1880’s in Manchester #unitedkingdom

Molly Staub

Try the Manchester Jewish Museum website. The museum's currently closed, but there's probably someone checking mail.

Molly Arost Staub. Boca Raton, FL  

Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine

Molly Staub

Check out my cousin Phyllis Berenson, who leads the Ukraine SIG. Her family comes from Mogilev-Podolsk and Shargorod. Have a healthy, meaningful new year, Molly Arost Staub

Looking for Chune Rosen from Zhitomir , Brooklyn and Massachusetts #usa

Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir

In the 1920’s , my grandmother received a heartfelt request by her brother in-law Shloyme Karmazin to find his half-brother Mishchune “ Chune” Rosen ( or Roisen ) and he gave an address of Mr. Rosen 3 Ditmas Ave. in Brooklyn . From what I can make out , they had sent several letters to the above address and received no reply . His wife’s name looks like “ Malyeh “ or a Yiddish transcription of “Molly” . The writer uses a few English words in the Yiddish e.g. “leters” instead of the Yiddish “briv’. which is why I think Mem Aleph Lamed Yud Hey is an attempt to spell Molly in Yiddish.

The Karmazins survived the war with their children and grandchildren , having taken the last trains out of Zhitomir in 1941 a few days before the Germans arrived. Of the adult men who fought with Soviet army , one was killed and one survived . The ones who made it to Israel and Brooklyn in 1992 asked me to try to find this family . All they could tell me is that they were very helpful in sending money/food/whatever to the family in Russia during the famine/pogroms after the 1918 Revolution . They heard that the family had moved to Massachusetts but they had left the address when they fled to Uzbekistan .

I spent many hours in NARA in Varick St. in the early 2000’s , looking in vain through many Charles/Harry/Hyman Rosen naturalization records for one who came from Zhitomir .

I tried look up a Rosen in Brooklyn at Ditmas Ave in City Directories and couldn’t find anything that seemed to match .

Has anyone got any ideas of what else I could do to find this person ?


Henry Carrey - Zhitomir: Postalov/Herman/German/Roisen Lutsk : Kirzner/Brestyaner/Isenberg/

Henry H. Carrey

Oct. 7: Zoom program on donating your family papers #events #announcements

Moriah Amit

Family History Today: Donating your Family Papers - How, When, Where, and Why?
Presented by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History and the Leo Baeck Institute
October 7, 4 PM ET

Karen Franklin, Director of Family Research at the Leo Baeck Institute, is donating her voluminous family papers to LBI, providing her a unique dual perspective on the donation process as both a donor and a recipient. This session will address what you can do to organize and prepare your collection for donation to ensure that the material will be accessible and meaningful to future researchers. Karen will cover topics including the types of collections that are accepted, what to do with difficult and personal information, and requesting access restrictions. She will also share a few of the many family secrets she uncovered in the process of preparing her donation!.

Ticket Info: Pay what you wish; register at /tickets/family-history-today-2020-10-07 to receive a link to the Zoom program

PLEASE NOTE: Our system cannot currently handle registrations from outside the U.S. For international registrants only: please send an email to programs@... with your name, email address and the name of the program for which you would like to sign up. We will register you manually and send you the Zoom link for the program. This is a free program, but donations are welcome at

This program is supported, in part, by a major grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities: Exploring the Human Endeavor, as well as by funding from The New York Community Trust's NYC COVID-19 Response and Impact Fund, and public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs in partnership with the City Council.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine


There is no quick and easy solution to determine which Mogilev is the right. All available sources, primary, e.g. census records and family registers, and secondary, e.g. business directories need to be consulted just to see where a name in question was known to exist.

Moreover, "a citizen of N" does not necessarily mean that a person, or even his father, lived in that town. It was difficult to change the registration officially, so a Jew could be a registered resident (more accurate translation) of N, but live in O and P, and his son could move to Q and R and still be a registered resident of N.


Zharov is not that uncommon name which was used by both Jews and gentiles. There was, for example an immensely popular, as Russian as they go, movie actor, Mikhail Zharov. He had a Jewish connection, actually: wife No. 4, Maya Gelshtein.

Boris Feldblyum
FAST Genealogy Service

Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine

Lee Jaffe

Recent translations of Russian Empire documents through ViewMate indicate my great-grandfather was "a citizen of Mohilev."   This is news to me, since all previous info connected him to Snovsk (Shchors), Chernigov, Ukraine.  Checking JewishGen's Town Finder (Communities Database), I find two towns called "Mogilev" before WWI:

Mohyliv-Podilskyy, Ukraine.
Mahilyow, Belarus.

Does anyone have a suggestion about how to determine which town is most likely referred to as Mohilev in 1890-1904 Russian Empire documents?  I've tried searching the family Joroff/Zharov in the Belarus town as a possible indicator  – not a common name and none I can connect to my family – but haven't found an equivalent database for Ukraine for comparison.  I thought about proximity but neither is close enough to the Chernigov region to make it a likely contender.  

Thank you for any suggestions you can offer,

Lee Jaffe
JAFFE / Suchowola, Poland
STEIN/SZTEJNSAPIR / Lomza? Bialystok?
SCHWARTZ / Perth Amboy, NJ
KOSHKIN / Snovsk, Ukraine

New additions to the Lezajsk (לידזענסק) gravestones Database #announcements #galicia

Moses Jefferson

Hello all.

As announced in this post, I have committed myself to compile the names and relevant genealogical data from the recent unearthed Matzevot discovered in the  town square.

Today I’m happy to announce that another been 32 names have been added to the database, which can be searched here, which totals to 65 names.

Previously it seemed that the earliest gravestone is dated from 1915, but now the earliest seems to be from 1900. Also there’s apparently 3 Matzevot identified to have belonged to descendants of the famed Rabbi Elimelech of Lezajsk.


Moses Jefferson
Genealogist & Researcher of Jewish History
London, UK

Re: Zoom events at the Holocaust Education and Learning Centre at the University of Huddersfield #announcements #events #holocaust

Michael Sharp

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 02:25 AM, Michael Sharp wrote:
The Holocaust Education and Learning Centre at the University of Huddersfield has relaunched its events programme in a covid-secure form using Zoom. Details can be found at

All zoom events are free but must be booked in advance.

The first event is on Thursday 1st October and is a conversation between survivor Rudi Leavor and Dame Louise Ellman on past and current experiences of antisemitism. Louise Ellman is one of the former members of the UK parliament who was vilified by anti-semites when the party was being led by Jeremy Corbyn

Future events include presentations on the Arolsen archives, the USHMM collection, the role of bureaucrats in the Nazi crimes, antisemitism and The Russian revolution, and Jewish refugees in Shanghai and in the Dominican Republic.

To book, click on the button for the event concerned and enter your details. A zoom link will be sent out approx. 2 days before each event. Please note the advertised times are London time.

Michael Sharp

 I have just been told of ticketing problems with the HELC website earlier today.

These have now been resolved.

So if  anyone experienced problems booking for an event earlier today, you should have success now

Michael Sharp

Re: Require help in understanding items on the attached New York marriage certificate #records

Alan Shuchat

It's possible that the line next to "Number of Bride's Marriage" is Juropp or even Yuropp, based on the handwriting in the groom's first name (Jacob/Jakob). This comes right below the bride's parents' names. Since there are other lines for residences and birthplaces, perhaps the person writing this meant the parents lived in or came from Europe. 
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

Researcher in Belarus #belarus

Yaron Wolfsthal

Dear Group,
I'd appreciate a well-experienced reference to a researcher in Brest and Volkovysk.
Thank you very much - Yaron Wolfsthal

Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia


Any chance to find on-line digital records from the Rovno (Rivne) region? I am looking for any available records including birth and marriage certificates of my mother's father side: Eiger/Eger/Iger family who resided there from 1850 and until the Holocaust took place in 1941. Any hints will be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance. 

Re: Request translation of extract from family register #germany #translation


Thank you so much! It is likely that this is the closest I can get to learning date and place of marriage since NY did not start vital records until 1847. It also tells me that there was information flowing from NY to Mainz family.  

Diane M. Jacobs

Re: Database of names in messages #names

Judy Kaufman <judykaufman7@...>

For the second link, for the older records, I see a search field for searching all the records at once.  But I don’t see that for the first link, for the newer records? 

Judy Kaufman
Irvine, CA

Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa

response to Jim Gutterman

the 1851 and 1858 revision lists are online with 3,469 records indexed and searchable.   Otherwise nothing else specific to this town - and not much in Alex K for the Rovno district in which this town is located
Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division

Re: Zoom events at the Holocaust Education and Learning Centre at the University of Huddersfield #announcements #events #holocaust

Sharan E. Newman

I  visited the Centre two years ago and was impressed with the exhibition.  I would also like to attend the talks.

Re: Jewish Schools in 1880’s in Manchester #unitedkingdom

Joan A. Baronberg

Thanks for bringing up this question. I am interested in North Manchester Jewish life in the 1880s too. I just tried Google-ing both schools and there is related info. at several sites. Here is one:

Joan Baronberg, Denver, CO, USA
Suchostow, Ukraine; Manchester, UK
Master, Mester, Weisser, Friedman

14761 - 14780 of 665325