Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine


My maternal grandfather, Aron Revzin, was from Snovks and emigrated to Chicago in 1913. His parents were Feivish and Chaia Ededl, nee Haykin. Aron's sisters were Baile (Mendel Schulman), Chana (Sam Polley) and Frieda (Sam Marshak whose youngest daughter married a Jaffe). Snokvks means "snow."
Barbara Cohen

Re: A new "names" database? #names


I recently tried to find FRIEDMANs in Poland in JGFF and found many, but I wanted to grab the data, condense it and sort it by locality or perhaps other things like the person submitting it. This would make it easier for me to print relevant data and choose whom to contact. I brought the data into Excel 365, but it was still hard to work with. Columns B and D seemed to have no data except in the title lines, but Sort wouldn't work because the column I wanted to sort by (Town) had some "adjacent" data. When I removed those columns, the towns still wouldn't sort A - Z because of an icon at the beginning of each town entry that provides a nice link to a map and town information. That icon should be at the end of the town name. Total: more than 1500 lines including unnecessary blank lines and a ZIP code line. Many people gave only their names, so if the link no longer worked, it would be very difficult to find them. If JGFF were formatted so that it could be more easily used for common surnames, that would help. Deceased Researcher should be a separate field (column) so that researchers could concentrate on probably living people.

Stephanie Nordlinger
Los Angeles, California

Re: Galicia on United States 1920 Census Data #galicia


Just a guess - in the one case, Galicia in Poland, and in the other case, Galicia in Austria
Ron Heller

Re: How to find New York marriage certificates #usa #general

Peter Cohen

For NY city marriage certificates prior to 1938 and death certificates prior to 1949, you can get a copy at a Mormon Family History Library.  They have some kind of legal agreement that prevents them from simply letting you download the image on from home.  You have to go and be on the FHL network, then you can save the image to a USB drive that you bring with you.

Until recently, (best accessed via had the most thorough transcriptions. has undertaken a project to transcribe the NYC vital records.  Their death certificate transcriptions include cemetery & parents names (which familysearch also includes), but they also usually have cause of death and what they are calling "executor", which is actually informant.  Be warned that these recent ancestry transcriptions are TERRIBLE. They garble the name in over half the instances. Sometimes, if you know Jewish names, you can discern what it should be (like LUNIE should be LURIE or LURIA), sometimes they get the informant's name right even when the deceased name is wrong. It's best to cross-check all the different transcriptions.

Peter Cohen

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Re: Cannot find my G Grandfather #unitedkingdom

Sherri Bobish


Is it possible that he left a will, or that there is some probate record?

Could there have been an obit or death notice in a local newspaper?


Sherri Bobish

Re: Researcher in Belarus #belarus


Several Jewishgenners have contacted me to say that the first line of my message was missing.  I must have been distracted by circumstances here.  Anyway, here it is, in it's entirety, again.:

You may wish to contact Jewish Tour ( a reliable, established firm based in Minsk which offers an economical in-depth genealogical service as well as heritage tours. They have a genealogy staff fluent in many languages including, English, French, Yiddish and Hebrew. They are also well connected with most of the current Jewish communities across Belarus. They also work closely with the Jewish Agency Limud. Another avenue to pursue is to deal directly with the Belarus National Historical Archive ( which also offers research services.  
When dealing with a private researcher (whether a firm, organisation or individual ) for a genealogical search in the Belarus archives you should bear in mind that you must authorise the researcher with an Apostille issued by the appropriate authority in your country. Without the Apostille the researcher cannot legally conduct your research. If you deal directly with the Archive an Apostille is not necessary. 
For the sake of clarity I have no association with either Jewish Tour or, obviously, the National Historical Archive of Belarus although I do know individuals who have availed themselves of services offered by both. I do not do genealogical research.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions which you feel I might be able to help with.

Gemar chatimah tovah! 

Frank Swartz

Re: Seeking Advice for Hiring the Best Latvian Researcher #latvia

Ava Nackman

Thanks so much, Arlene.  This is very helpful.  Maybe I can ask you a more particular question.  When I last had the Latvian Archives research for me, I was displeased with the way they did their citations.  Instead of footnoting each piece of information, they put all of the source information at the end of the report, and not in the order of information given in the body of the report.  For example, they would cite one book, then just give a list of pages where various information was found in that book.  Therefore, I had no reasonable way of knowing where, specifically, they were finding each piece of data.  Is it unreasonable to ask them to not do it that way?  I want to maintain good relations, but this method of citing seemed inappropriate.

Ava Nackman

Looking for family of Klein, Maizi emigrated to Israel from USSR Mukachevo #israel

Stuart Kaufer

Looking for family of  Klein, Maizi emigrated to Israel from USSR Mukachevo.   They are relatives of my cousin Perl Klein Katz.  Thank you.

Stuart Kaufer

Re: Hebrew Translation of Gravestone - ROSENBERG, NATHAN (NISEL) #translation


I did not look at the English part of the stone earlier, so I now want to point out that there is a discrepancy of 2-3 days between the Hebrew and the secular dates.

If the 5th of December is correct, then the equivalent Hebrew dates are the 2nd of Tevet (if he died before sunset) and the 3rd of Tevet (if he died after sunset).
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Re: issues of DNA privacy #dna

Robert Hanna

Suggest to them that they can do it anonymously.  Instead of using their name, they can make up a name or use initials and you could be the manager of their DNA.  Nobody could possibly know who they are.

Robert Hanna

Researching Chanan, Hanan, Hanna, Hanne, Heine, Hiney (Warsaw); Blumenblat (Poland); Karasik, Thomashow, Cohen (Babruysk); Rubinstein, Bunderoff, Pastilnik, Nemoyten, Diskin (Minsk).

Re: Struggling to find immigration data for great grandparents - ZUCKER and WEISEL #galicia #ukraine #germany


Hello Alan,

The passport application also says Henry Zucker was naturalized in the US District Court in Brooklyn (Eastern District) on July 24, 1902.  I found that record at Ancestry here, in which he said he had been resident in the US since July 1890.

NOTE WELL there is language in the naturalization document suggesting this was a "minor naturalization."  That language says he arrived in the US and was resident here for three years prior to his reaching age 21.  For that reason I would not expect to find any separate declaration of intention.

ALSO, the back of the naturalization document holds an important clue.  It appears Henri/Henry applied for a replacement naturalization certificate in early 1943.  Even though he naturalized before 1906, so INS never had a C-file for Henry before, his 1942/1943 application for a replacement would have created a special kind of C-file known as an "Old Law Replacement" certificate.  The prefix for those C-files is "OL."

The information on the back of the court document on Ancestry shows Henry "applied for a new certificate" and presumably the original court naturalization record was checked/verified by INS on January 16, 1943, probably by an INS examiner (Shatzman).  The file number given, "2B52123" is the INS application file used temporarily and NOT the file number needed to request records. 

The records (his application and supporting documents and correspondence) will be in his OL C-file.  The OL C-number is not found in this notation.  It would be found on the original replacement certificate issued in 1943 (assuming it was issued), and in the INS, now USCIS, index.  Sadly the only way to get to that file, if you want it, is to request it from the USCIS Genealogy Program.

This is a great example of how there can be rich records created decades later than one would expect!  

Marian Smith

Re: How to find New York marriage certificates #usa #general and (or ItalianGen but I don't like their search) are among the most useful sites, although Ancestry is catching up. None are complete, and be aware of transcription errors where names are not indexed exactly right. 

Records are public up until 1949. You can order copies online from the Department of Records (aka DORIS) if you have enough information.
See for more complete information including where to search.
Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)

Re: Jewish Schools in 1880’s in Manchester #unitedkingdom


There is a book called They Came from the Haim: History of Manchester Jewry from 1867. This is written by one of my relatives and will cover lots of the topics you are looking for. The Jews school was in Derby Street, Cheetham Hill and my late grandmother and her siblings were pupils. There are lots of links providing information regarding the school. Hope you find this useful. regards Suzanne Vincent Jeffery

Re: Researcher in Belarus #belarus


I have worked with Yuri Dorn at JHRG (jhrg@...)multiple times. They have found records for multiple sides of my family from all over the Belarus area. Costs are extremely reasonable, however I would caution you about the turn around time for research can run into several months. I believe this is understandable given the nature of the bureaucracy they have to deal with in obtaining records from the archives. 
Good luck!

Jonathan Sher

Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine

Schelly Talalay Dardashti

When I began researching my TALALAI in Mogilev some 35 years ago - it took me 2 years to confirm it was Belarus. Everyone I asked tried to convince me it was the Podulsk one, but it did not seem correct. Then I remembered my GGM and GM talking about the Dnieper River which runs right through Mogilev, Belarus. The Dnieper is nowhere near MP. Research proved our Belarus (White Russia) connection with some 800 records in the city and nearby Vorotinshtina-Zavarezhye. We also had a Chernigov connection. A kidnapped Talalai boy into the army who was released in Chernigov and sent home for an ASBEL wife from Mogilev! The proof is in the smallest of details!

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
New Mexico
TALALAI: Mogilev BEL and envvirons, St Petersburg, Moscow, Novosibirsky, Kazakhstan, Israel, Canada, UK, USA, etc.

Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Gary Pokrassa

you need to be more specific about towns -while there is a significant amount of data from the Volyn province there is very little from this district available - one exception is there are over 1000 records online from a 1851 revision list for the town of Rovno.  I can give you a better answer if you can name a few towns
Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division

Re: Seeking Advice for Hiring the Best Latvian Researcher #latvia

Arlene Beare

Good day Janel
I will reply in English and then below I will write in French.  I looked in the names Project for Latvia  which enables you to search for someone who lived in Latvia prewar.  All you need is the name and place they lived in.  Most people perished in 1941.
 Frida Furman maiden name Jankelowitsch was living in Riga as you said. Her husband's name was Mowscha and her date of birth 11 April 1898..Her father was Schaya Abram.  Her fate is not known.
I looked in the Yad Vashem Archive and there is no victim listed as Frida Fuhrman. In the Jewishgen Holocaust Database there are Frieda Furmans but I do not think they are your Frida.
I looked in the Jewishgen Family Finder and there are recent messages looking for a Frieda Fuhrman. I suggest you contact these people.  You go to the page and then search the  Family Finder.  Jewishgen will transmit your message to the person .
You can also search Family Trees on Myheritage  Ancestry and Geni.
I do hope you have success and wish you luck
Arlene Beare UK
Co-director Jewishgen Research Division.

Bonjour Pierre
J'ai fait le recherche sur le site
Si vous cherchez le nom et le endroit Riga vous trouvez Frida Furhman nee Jankelowitsch.    Il ne sait pas si Frida et mort.  Son mari etait Mowsha. Le date de naissaince 11/4 1898. Son pere etait Schaya Abram.
Sur le site Yad Vashem Holocaust - elle n'est pas une victime. Peut-etre elle survecut aux camps de concentration.
Le site -Holocaust bas de donnee  Il y a Frieda Fuhrman mais je ne pense pas cette Frieda est votre tante.
Je vous recommende Family finder.  J'ai trouve quelque personne qui cherche Frida Furhman de Riga.   Si vous inscrivez une message Jewishgen envoye votre message a le personne. 
Family Finder est votre meilleur chance de trouver vos familles.
Vous pouvez aussi chercher des arbres genealogiques sur myheritage,ancestry et Geni.
Pardonnez mon francais  mais je suis anglaise.
J'espere que vous avez de bonne chance avec votre recherche.

Arlene Beare UK
Co-director Jewishgen Research Division.

Re: Oct. 7: Zoom program on donating your family papers #events #announcements

Avigdor Ben-Dov <avigdorbd@...>

I live in Israel. I would like to join the Zoom program but it is in the middle of a holyday week. Not all family history papers are suitable for donation and who would be interested in hand written notes anyway? It took me years to get documents and I have dozens of file folders filled with family history and misc. trees and fotos.What does Leo Baek do with them?
Avigdor Ben-Dov

This week's Yizkor book excerpt (about Yom Kippur) on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Bruce Drake

Yom Kippur begins Sunday evening. This excerpt from the Yizkor book of Podhajce, Ukraine about the observance of the holiest day of the year needs little introduction other than saying that its account will make you feel like you are right there in the shtetl from Kol Nidre to the day’s final prayers.
When the services in the synagogue were done, "The day turned into twilight. The wax candles cast a gloomy light, and all the worshippers felt as if a new spirit entered into their beings, and new powers were granted to them."

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

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