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Re: Location of Marriage Record, Katowice, 1935 #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

For information on records from towns in Poland, contact the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
town leader.  Go to https://jri-poland.org/index.html and click on "Your Town" in the navigation bar:



If the town is not listed, write to [townname]@jri-poland.org


Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.


 
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Location of Marriage Record, Katowice, 1935 #poland
From: Yaron Wolfsthal
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 11:03:59 EDT
Dear Group,

A couple, my relatives, were married at the house of the Rabbi of Katowice's Jewish community in 1935.
The marriage ceremony was held at the Rabbi's house because the bride was his relative.
The bride and groom perished in the Holocaust a few years later.

Where would you suggest to search for the Marriage Record?  
I'd greatly appreciate an advice.

Thank you very much - Yaron Wolfsthal
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Re: Research in Egypt 1930s-1940s? #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Last December I published an index of Jewish surnames in Cairo in the 20th century:

https://avotaynuonline.com/2019/12/index-of-jewish-surnames-of-20th-century-cairo/

Am working now on Alexandria. There are 4 Jewish weeklies that were  published it that period both in Cairo and Alexandria(all in French).

Which surname are you looking for?

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Re: LEVINE family, Cardiff, Wales #unitedkingdom

harold.love@...
 

I don’t know the family. My great grandfather, Joseph Love, and his brothers Myer and Benjamin and sister Sarah Stone (husband Malach) arrived in Cardiff from Grodno in the late 1880s or early 1890s and assumed the name Love which is similar to Levy. It is said that my great grandfather claimed the family name was Dobromyslov but it’s a brick wall that I haven’t been able to beak through. Has anyone ever heard that name? Joseph Love was the only sibling to move to the United States. My grandfather and two of his brothers were born near Cardiff before sailing for New York in late 1899. I love telling people I have Welsh ancestry  

Harold Love
Pittsburgh, PA


Need help finding naturaliz records for my GGM in New York City #records

N. Summers
 

Her married name is Channe > Annie / Sarah Ann Lyss >Alper. Sometimes misspelled Hana. I've searched on ancestry, familysearch and myheritage (altho my search skills are imperfect) and in the NARA online database (scary!) without finding anything helpful.  Is there any other way to find some information?

This is what I have been able to find:
Passenger arrival manifest for Channe Lyss and 5 of her children in 1904.  Husband Morris and sons Sam and Jones came earlier.
Everyone in the family changed their name to Alper just after arrival.
Husband Morris naturalized in 1906, under old law that didn't require filing DOI or Petition. He died in 1910, after the census was taken.

Annie's 1905-1940 census records, all in Bronx or Manhattan, New York.
Annie probably naturalized between 1915 and 1920, as her status changed from "Al" to "Na" on the two census documents.
Sarah Ann death records in 1947. Parents name is Welhonitz or Wolkowitz
Many thanks,
Nancy

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Nancy Summers

Maryland, USA

 

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine); LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Minsk, Russia/Belarus) ; LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)


Re: Seeking individuals with a connection to Raseiniai, Lithuania

Lin Mor
 

Dear Dr Corb,

My Great Grandmother, Rachel Leah Press Shneyder was killed along with her married daughter Rivka Shneyder Gor and four very young children, two named Velvel and Chana. The names of the other two are unknown. All were taken somewhere outside of Raseiniai where these crimes took place. When I was in Lithuania in 2007, the location was unknown and I was unable to visit it.

We did visit the museum in Raseiniai and it occurred to me that many of the photos we saw were possibly of the Jewish residents and there were lists of synagogue members. A passerby told our guide, Rosa, where the synagogue used to be. We also saw where the Jewish Cemetery was, the only thing remaining on this plot of land with apartments was a plaque on the low stone wall remaining that was once the cemetery border.

We also visited Vidukle, the nearby town where the Shneyder family lived for 2-3 generations, my family had left by 1941 when these murders took place. We did see the site where the women and children were buried near the Jewish Cemetery. We also visited the site near the RR station where the men and older boys from Vidukle and some other places were taken and murdered.

As we were walking around Vidukle, Rosa pointed out which buildings were once Jewish homes, ended to be along the road. An old lady was sitting in the sun by the barn adjacent to one of these houses. Rosa asked if she was here during the war and she said that she was a child then. When the conversation turned to the previous ownership of the property, she got up and went into the house and refused to speak further. We can only conclude that her family took over the property when the Jews living there were gone. People are afraid that descendants of victims want their property returned. We could clearly see where the synagogue once was. I do have a picture of a picture of it. 

I am sorry I have no further concrete details to help your investigation, Please include me when communicating the findings of your investigation. Thank you.
Linda Cohen Morzillo


Re: Research in Egypt 1930s-1940s? #general

Jeff at SG
 

Try searching the 1941 Egypt directory at
https://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/DirectoryEgypt1941.html

or other databases in the Egypt section of 
https://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/databases.html

Good luck.

Jeff Malka
GOLDENBERG and BERNSTEIN in Cairo, Egypt


Re: New records available for Klimontow, Poland #poland

judygolan@...
 

The full extracts of the Klimontow Parish records will be searchable once the costs incurred to obtain Klimontow records and extraction have been fully covered. We hope that this will happen in tandem with the launch of the JRI-Poland NextGen system.

Judy Golan
JRI-Poland Sandomierz Area Coordinator


Re: Goraj (Lublin Area) Extraction Project Launched #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

There are many NESTELBAUM entries in the Jewish vital records of Janów Lubelski in both the 
online and offline Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (https://jri-poland.org/index.htmldatabase.  
For information on the records, contact the town leader listed on the "Your Town Page" at:

For information on the Jewish vital and other records, an option is to write to [townname]@jri-poland.org

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.


 
2a. 
Re: Goraj (Lublin Area) Extraction Project Launched #poland
From: mare21499@...
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:29:13 EDT
Hi!
I know this is an old post but i just joined the message boards. I'm researching my husband's family - Nestelbaum - from Yanow (Janow). I've tried searching endless tips but haven't come across any birth records for a grand-father or great grand-father. Have these documents come online yet? 

thank you

Rebecca Racer


Location of Marriage Record, Katowice, 1935 #poland

Yaron Wolfsthal
 

Dear Group,

A couple, my relatives, were married at the house of the Rabbi of Katowice's Jewish community in 1935.
The marriage ceremony was held at the Rabbi's house because the bride was his relative.
The bride and groom perished in the Holocaust a few years later.

Where would you suggest to search for the Marriage Record? 
I'd greatly appreciate an advice.

Thank you very much - Yaron Wolfsthal


Re: Photos: Belz Bessarabian Sick Beneficial Association section at Har Nebo Cemetery, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #photographs #usa

Harry Boonin
 

Har Nebo and Mitchell Collier, yes Mitch you are correct. The old cemetery looks old, not decayed, but decaying. You have come across a process, not an end. You have come across the remains of Shakespeare’s “Bare ruin’d choirs.” And you have described the Cemetery in your narrative and photos too well. But the old cemetery has a good memory. Let’s go back to its youth, when it was time to bury one of the most beloved rabbis in Philadelphia Jewry, Rabbi Abraham H. Erschler who died in 1910, and was brought from the Jewish quarter, accompanied by 5,000 mourners crowded into this little, but growing cemetery. Or four years later when Anshe Shavel shul buried its 30 burnt Torah’s and buried them beside Rabbi Erschler. Let’s read about these days, in the Jewish Daily Forward, November 20, 1910, written by Abraham Cahan, or four years later by Philadelphia newspapers, Jewish Exponent, November 25, 1910, or November 21, or the Record, Nov 23, 1914 (front page), etc. Harry D. Boonin





 





Photo identification #galicia #photographs

NTalbot
 

Does anyone recognize this photo of Wilder Family circa 1930?  I lost the source of where I found it. I believe they were from somewhere in Galicia.
NTalbot


Re: Mogilev or Mogilev? #belarus #ukraine

ahcbfc@...
 

My source is a former college student in one of my English classes who was from the area. He did some translations for me too.
Barbara Cohen


Re: Seeking Advice for Hiring the Best Latvian Researcher #latvia

janelpi2@...
 

Attn Madame Arlene Beare

Bonjour Madame,
Merci beaucoup pour votre rapide réponse,   j'avais espéré qu'avec l'adresse indiquée nous aurions pu trouver quelques informations sur ma famille , malheureusement comme beaucoup d'entre nous la disparition n'a jamais été constatée. et je ne pense pas qu'avec le temps qui s'écoule nous puissions retrouver quelques cousins;
Encore merci,  je vous adresse Madame l'expression de mes sentiments les meilleurs
P.Janel


Re: issues of DNA privacy #dna

Bob Silverstein
 

Addressing Robert's suggestion to anonymize, I recommend simply saying "Person 1".  The manager could use an alias email address like "mytree1@...."  Teasing out any identifiable hints becomes impossible.

Bob Silverstein
bobsilverstein@...


Re: issues of DNA privacy #dna

Bob Silverstein
 

Regarding Jeffrey's response, the approach requires the genome to be published, in part or in whole.  As I pointed out earlier, the testing sites do not do this.  When you download your data, you will find SNP's at various locations but no gene sequences.  Whether the donor's name is anonymized or not, I would still like to know how genealogical DNA can break anonymity, especially if you are not famous.

Bob Silverstein
bobsilverstein@...


Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

abgen@...
 

Catalogues of all metric books in the funds of the state archives of Ukraine can be downloaded from:
https://undiasd.archives.gov.ua/doc/metric-books/
The language of catalogues is Ukrainian.
Chapters relevant to Jews start with
"ІУДАЇЗМ". 
Arkady Brazin
abgen@...


Re: Contact with IKG Vienna re Katharina Rosenstein nee Rattner #austria-czech

tfanders@...
 

I have been trying to contact Irma as well and have received the same Out of Office message. I am sure it is the Pandemic. She will respond. It just takes time. 
--
Thomas Anders
S. Dartmouth Massachusetts


Re: Looking for family of Klein, Maizi emigrated to Israel from USSR Mukachevo #israel

synhe@...
 

Hello Stuart,
My husband family are Klein and are from Munkachevo. Apparently there was more than one Klein in Monkachevo...
--
Yonat Klein
Syracuse NY


Re: issues of DNA privacy #dna

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

Nine years ago Yaniv Erlich, now at MyHeritage, demonstrated what could then be learned  from a combination of DNA information and public data.  As was subsequently reported:
Erlich and his team tested the idea on a man’s full genome that had been published in 2007.  They used lobSTR to determine the STR profile of the man’s Y chromosome, and then searched a consumer genealogy database called Ysearch until they had matches with a few likely surnames. Public records on one of these surnames linked it to a man fitting the geographic location and age listed in the paper: the genomics pioneer J. Craig Venter. 

Nine years on, how much easier is it to break “anonymity”?

Jeffrey Herrmann


Re: Printing records I find on JRI-Poland #records #poland #translation

Daniella Alyagon
 

I would suggest saving the link along with an actual file and then provide both when requesting a translation.

 

Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)