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Ilya
yes very important thank you We have just such a project underway - it is a massive undertaking and we are exploring the best way to get what we have completed posted online with periodic updates. Gary Pokrassa Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Group
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Re: Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Radomsk Family Tree
#rabbinic
nbyaros
HI Moishe, did you get a response to your message of 8/28/06 on a family tree of the Radomsk dynasty? I would like the same. Thanks
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Re: Require help in understanding items on the attached New York marriage certificate
#records
Kate Dresdner
For the bride’s two given names, the given name on the record was likely spoken to the registrar or officiant and is spelled phonetically. The spelling of the given name on the bride’s signatory line was likely to have been written by Emma herself. For further research I would search using the two given names and the American name. This extra work is annoying of course but being through may lead to more records that include more information.
For the information entered in place of the number of marriages, the recorder was being through. NYC would have had thousands of people that had the exact same names as someone else living in NYC and their parents names would be similar or the same as someone else as well. The groom’s name, Jacob Wagner, is incredibly common. The address of the groom’s parents would aid in separating one Jacob Wagner from another, when the need inevitably arose. The recorder took the extra space to write the addresses of the parents. There is no need to list zero marriages, since they were both listed as single, rather than widowed or divorced. Kate Dresdner
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Re: Looking for Chune Rosen from Zhitomir , Brooklyn and Massachusetts
#usa
Molly Staub
I'm not sure I can answer your question, but I have a large family group from Zhitomir. I didn't see your email address; please email me at staubmolly@...
Molly Staub
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Re: Do you know this location?
#lithuania
Sherri Bobish
Richard, Try searching Kaunas here: https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp Next step is to look at the towns listed on the Kaunas page as being within a 30 mile radius. Hopefully you will find “Gizejikanis” there. Be sure to look at the town name variants on the page of any town that may be a possibility. Most towns had several different names in various languages, and some variants can be quite different than one would expect. Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Researcher in Belarus
#belarus
fjs@...
Dear Rich (if I may), An Apostille is, essentially an internationally accepted form of notarisation. Since different states and countries require various levels of authentication for notarisation Apostilles provide an international standard of validation which is accepted by the 118 countries to the Hague Conference on Private International Law. In the United States Apostilles are usually issued by the Secretary of State’s office of each state. As you are in Maryland I suggest that you view https://www.peoples-law.org/maryland-apostille-and-full-legalization-process-authenticating-maryland-documents-use-across [https://tinyurl.com/y25j7uer]. As a word of warning: there are on the internet many Apostille ‘services’ which promise to undertake the process of obtaining an Apostille for you--at obscenely high prices. I suggest you avoid them. Obtaining an Apostille is a reasonably simple process. which you can easily and inexpensively do yourself. I would also beware of any private researcher who says you can avoid providing an Apostille. Apart from the fact that research without one will be illegal the researcher will be limited in access to relevant documents. An Apostille is not required if you deal directly with the Archive. If you feel I can be of any further help please feel free to email me. Best regards, Frank Swartz
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Rx1500mg@...
Both of my grandmother's had the same residency that you mention. They were from Russia but their next stop in traveling was Bucharest, Romania. They listed that as there last known address. Your ancestor was not confused. They were answering literally their LAST place they had stayed, not their original residence or country of origin.
rx1500mg@... Steven Wohlstetter
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JGSCT October 18, 2020 Webinar, The Krakovsky Documents: JewishGen's Ukraine Research Division Project, with Joel Spector
#ukraine
#records
#announcements
On October 18, 2020, at 1:30 pm, genealogist Joel Spector will virtually present “The Krakovsky Documents: JewishGen's Ukraine Research Division Project: Transliteration, Preservation, and Addition of the Data to JewishGen For Genealogical Researchers" via webinar.
Alex Krakovsky, a Ukrainian Jew, has been scanning metrical and census records found in long-closed Ukrainian archives. He has placed the indexes, in Cyrillic, on a webpage for easy access. The current Metrical Records Project’s purpose is to transliterate and make the data available on JewishGen for researchers. A Past President of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia, Joel Spector has also been chairperson of its Russian Special Interest Group. Joel is a former Secretary of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) and now serves as its Archivist. Currently, he is a member of the JewishGen Ukraine Research Division and serves as its Director of Metrical Records Projects. The Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut welcomes everyone interested in Jewish genealogy to our webinar presentation. This webinar is free and open to the public. To register for this webinar, click on the following URL: https://attendee.gotowebinar. Gail K Reynolds, Publicity Chair, Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut
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CORRECTION: New York City Department of Records and Information Services Proposed Rules On New Fees And Access Requirements
#announcements
#photographs
#records
#usa
Jan Meisels Allen
My apologies, when writing up the history I incorrectly stated that the 2017 regulations on embargo periods and whom may access the records without the embargo period which went into effect in 2018 was with the Municipal Archives—that was incorrect. It was with the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. The summary of the current Municipal Archives proposed regulation was not affected by my historical error. The historical portion of the posting has been corrected below. My apologies for the historical error and thank you to Renee Steinig, JGS Long Island for bringing this to my attention.
While this is something posted on the IAJGS Records Access Alert with so many people worldwide interested in New York City records I thought it also appropriate to post on this forum. For those who are already subscribed to the Records Access Alert my apologies for duplication. For those who believe access to records of genealogical value are important you are invited to subscribe-its free- see at bottom how to subscribe.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
The New York City Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS) (this includes the Municipal Archives) has proposed new rules with an increase in fees for records, photographs, videos, and access requirements –some of which are detrimental to genealogists-such as not being able to share any of the information with anyone. The notice of the proposed rule and hearing may be found at: https://rules.cityofnewyork.us/content/amendment-rules-relating-municipal-archives-and-municipal-reference-library. You may download the pdf of the proposed rule from this site and it is attached to this announcement for you convenience.
When reading the proposed rule please not that information in brackets [ ] is deleted and that which is newly proposed is underlined _____.
A public hearing is scheduled for Friday October 23, 2020 at 11:00AM Eastern Time. Deadline for submitting comments is also October 23, 2020—see below on how to submit your statement. Information on how to participate by video conference or telephone is: Internet Video and Audio. To participate in the public hearing, enter the Webex URL: https://nycdoris.webex.com/nycdoris/j.php?MTID=mefc0048fb1822df1ceebde18 (copy and paste if it does not click)
If prompted to provide a password or number, please enter the following: Meeting Number: 173 225 7395. Password: kjEZGpCu746 • Telephone. To access the hearing by telephone, dial +1-646-992-2010 United States Toll (New York City) or 1-408-418-9388 United States Toll. • Access code: 173 225 7395
You can submit comments several ways: • Website. You can submit comments to the Department of Records & Information Services through the NYC rules website at: http://rules.cityofnewyork.us. • Email. You can email comments to DORISrules@... • Mail. You can mail comments to: Assistant Commissioner Kenneth R. Cobb, Department of Records & Information Services, 31 Chambers Street, Suite 305, New York, N.Y. 10007. • Fax. You can fax comments to Department of Records & Information Services, 212 788-8625. • By speaking at the hearing. Anyone who wants to comment on the proposed rule at the public hearing may speak for up to three minutes. Please access the public hearing by Internet Video and Audio or by Telephone using the instructions above. It is recommended, but not required, that anyone who wants to comment sign up prior to the hearing by emailing Gerald Rosero at: grosero@...
Some of the increased fees include:
The proposed rules also state: Section 3-01 Municipal Archives and Library Regulations Governing Use of Archives and Library Materials: Section A: Access to Materials All researchers must complete a registration form with name, contact information, affiliation if any, and specifying research subject and purpose and provide acceptable identification upon request. Physical condition of any item may prohibit public access. Certain records may be subject to redaction and other restrictive access related to personal privacy, health information and minors. The special restrictions also apply to District Attorney case files, Board of Education “anti-Communist” case files, World Trade Center materials and Police Department surveillance records and photographs. Other restrictions are listed in the proposed rule.
Section B: Reproductions are provided for the researcher's personal use only. Reproductions may not be reduplicated, published, or transferred to another individual or institution.
Permission to publish, reprint, broadcast, reduplicate or make other use of Archives or Library materials are subject to the conditions in a Publish./Use form and observance of the US Copyright Code. Violation of any of the rules may be cause for future access to the Municipal Library and Archives.
Thank you to Chuck Weinstein, JGS Long Island, for sharing the proposed rule with us.
It was in 2018 that the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene changed the access as to whom may obtain records and the embargo dates. A VERY strong genealogical community fought back. While they went ahead with the embargo period, we were successful in getting additional family members to be included in those who could get immediate access. The genealogical community needs to again work cooperatively to get many of the above proposed rules amended before they are adopted.
To access the previous postings on the IAJGS Records Access Alert about the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, NYC Municipal Archives, DORIS, go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/. You must be registered to access the archives. To register go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization with whom you are affiliated You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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there are a number of birth records available but no hits on Borokhovitch
no metric records are posted on Alex K for this period However there are revision lists: Kherson district [ ed. | ed. code ]Metric books of the Jews of Kherson // DAHerO fund 113, description 1.
Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division
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there are a few hits on this on the JG universal search - but no other files posted by Alex K available
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Translation from "Russian? " to English.
#translation
Myers.debby@...
Could someone please translate this back of photo message which we think was written in Paris. Also what language is it written in.
Many thanks in anticipation. Debby Myers Myers.debby@...
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Re: Need suggestions for how to search for misspelled family names
#records
Sarah L Meyer
Sometimes - especially if you are using US records, search for a child with his/her parents and siblings in the appropriate location with no surname at all. If you know for example that a child was Fred, his mother Tillie and his father Herman and that they lived in Detroit, put those names into the search. If you have a birth year for Fred say 1915, then give him at least a two year range around that year - maybe even 5 years. And if he had a sister Dora, you can also usually add another sibling. Once you find the right family, then you can edit the surname. Now that you have at least one Census, you may be able to go on from there.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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Re: Bukofzer / Oppenheimer in France FRENCH records
#france
itencorinne@...
Hi David (Selig)
For the time in question you have too look at the tables annuelles rather than the tables decennales. Because there are no tables decennales for this years, but only tables annuelles. The tables annuelles and decennales say in which part of Paris and when the marriage took place. With this details it's easy to find the actual marriage record. You metionned a residence card in Mannheim from where Martha emigrated. Does it say if she was married or not and to whom she was married? You also say she was born 26.11.1897, Bad Mergentheim, Germany. Do you have the records of Bad Mergentheim? They are available online: https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=5632 Regards Corinne ITEN
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Ellen
If the name isn't "son of Morris," it could be Morozov or Morosoff (which actually means frost).
A website I looked at suggested Moryson and Moritsan as possible alternatives, indicating that these surnames are found in Poland and Ukraine, respectively. I don't know whether that's true. Ellen Morosoff Pemrick Saratoga County, NY -- Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)
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Researching in Northeast Indiana? Upcoming Virtual Event
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
bgephart@...
Are you researching in Northeast Indiana? The Northeast Indiana Jewish Genealogy Society would like to invite you to “Meet Your Mishpocha” at our upcoming virtual event on Sunday, October 18th at 1:00 p.m. Door prizes include a free DNA kit! We will offer tours of our Fort Wayne Jewish Families Database, which has grown to include over 6,000 pat and present members of the Northeast Indiana Jewish community. Also on hand will be the director of the Indiana Jewish Historical Society with information about their archives, representatives from the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center, and the local directors of the Jewish community’s Oral History Video Project. We’ll also offer advice on digitizing photographs and starting your family history research.
If you have any ties to Northeast Indiana, or just live nearby, we hope you’ll join us on October 18th. More information and the link to registration can be found on our website at https://neindianajgs.org/upcoming-events/. And I’m happy to answer any questions.
Sincerely, Betsy Thal Gephart, VP NE Indiana Jewish Genealogy Society
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Re: Translation from "Russian? " to English
#translation
Myers.debby@...
Thks Mike -whaf language is it? Also what is written on right hand side
Thks so much. Regards Debby Myers Myers.debby@...
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In recent years, Alex Krakovsky organized, scanned, and posted to various sites on the Internet several thousands of documents from the Ukrainian archives. Some of the documents are on the site "Jewish Shtetl", some are on the site "Wikidzherela", over two thousand files are on the TKF site, almost daily Alex posts links to newly scanned files on the Facebook page "Jewish Ancestry in Ukraine", perhaps there are other sites where various archival documents could be open... Unfortunately, the naming of the files on the different sites varies which makes it difficult to compare and see if the file, for example, on TKF is the same as one on the "Jewish Shtetl", or in Wikidzherela, or...
I wonder if there is anyone besides Alex himself, who knows about all the document scanned and posted? Isn't it time for Jewisgen to get organized, establish a naming convention, and create a database (updatable frequently)? Ilya Zeldes North Fort Myers, FL
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Long-time Aleksandrów Łódzki and area researchers will be pleased to learn that Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has undertaken a significant new “Phase 3” project to fully extract all Aleksandrów Łódzki birth, marriage and death records from 1826 to 1917. To carry out this major initiative, we also have acquired scans (digital images) of all surviving Aleksandrów Łódzki records in the Łódź branch of the Polish State Archives. -- Naomi Leon Brighton, UK LEWKOWICZ, RYWAN, LASKY, BERGER, WRON, FAJBISIEWICZ (Rawa Mazowiecka, Aleksandrow Lodzki, Lodz)
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Re: Do you know this location?
#lithuania
David Barrett
It might be adavisable for us to see what exactly is written on the naturalisation form
David Barrett
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