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Re: Jacobstadt, Latvia 1958 Revision List #latvia

Arlene Beare
 

Ava

Just an extra bit of information. We are very busy transcribing data from the Passport Issuance Books for Latvia  and the Internal Passports that were handed in to the Riga Police.  I transcribed  the Passport Issuance Books for Jekabpils and they are now in the Jewishgen Latvia Database.Others are transcribing Issuance Books for other places in Latvia.I am now transcribing the Passports handed in to the Riga Police  for the subset Jekabpils.  Internal passports were necessary for all citizens in the Russian Empire not only Jews.   The passports have been imaged by Family Search  and are an extremely valuable resource.  When these  database are in the Jewishgen Latvia Database it will be  wonderful for researchers to have photos of their Ancestors.  Although I am dealing with the subset for Jekabpils it is really a database for the whole of Latvia because there is information on where they were born,where they are living now and what they regard as their permanent address.  This is a Jekabpils subset because they were either born in or were living in Jekabpils. Our ancestors may have said they came from a particular shtetl or Town when in fact  they were born somewhere else  or lived somewhere else. They often paid taxes in their place of origin even though they were living somewhere else. Our Leader in the Research Division is Paul Cheifitz and he has organised volunteers who are transcribing them for other subsets such as Rezekne etc.  We will welcome any volunteers who want to do this valuable work.  Volunteers can contact Paul at
paulcheifitz@...
The Latvia Research Division formerly LatviaSIG  will have a Zoom Meeting on the 6th of December and we will give details nearer the time. This will be an ideal time for people to ask questions from the 3 of us -that is Paul, myself and Marion Werle.

Arlene Beare
Co-Director Latvia Research Division
 
Looking for Judka Szmurkiewicz #poland #latinamerica

sandabsc@...
 

Hello everyone,

 

I am searching for informations about the second part of my grand uncle Judka Szmurkiewicz’s life in South America. He was born in Zelechow (Poland) in 1892, he was a famous thief in Poland in the 20’ & 30’, escaped from jail but also from the Nazis, as I discovered on Family Search his immigration card in Sao Paulo, 12 /27/1940. My questions are: did he stay in Brazil, have a family there (he came without his wife),  pursue the same « career », when did he die…? Tank you in advance for any suggestion.

Sandra Dab (Paris)

Researching Dab/Domb & Szmurkiewicz/Szmulkiewicz (Zelechow & Lukow); Mucha & Szytovicz (Warsaw)

 
Re: Weinbergers from Kisvarda #hungary

LisaB
 

I know this is an old post, but research sometimes requires going backwards, right?
I have Weinberger relatives from Kisvarda, through marriage (Kornstein).

Wondering if/how we are related.

Lisa Bernath, Ivins UTAH
n2dzine2@...
Re: Need help, please, dating a Warsaw and a Liverpool studio photo of my great-grandmother #poland #unitedkingdom #photographs

Michele Lock
 

There is a facebook group called 'Genealogy - Dating old photographs' that you could post your photographs on. They will be able to pinpoint what decade these photos are likely from, based on the style of clothing, hair, jewelry, posing in the photos, flower arrangements, and the like. Particularly the second photo, with the dress having such a distinctive collar. 

My guesstimate is that these photos were taken within 10 years of each other, because the woman does not look considerably older in the second, and her hairstyle is very similar. She is also alone in the photos - I believe that if a woman was married/engaged, she'd more likely be photographed with the man in her life, and her children, particularly since these were formal photos done in a studio. But that's just my opinion. 

I have a photo of a great aunt, taken in 1909 in the US when she was first engaged, and her dress is very similar to that worn by the woman in your photos. However, her hairstyle is very different, and she is looking directly into camera. Little details that can make a difference. 

Best of luck with this.

Michele Lock
Alexandria, VA
Re: Hungary Jewish Cemetery, Nyirbator #hungary

LisaB
 

Hello Alex:
I have been to the Nyirbator cemetery about 10 years ago, in the beginnings of my genealogy research. I saw some of the GROSZ headstones, as my dad’s paternal grandmother’s family are GROSZ, from Kisleta. They are buried in the closest Jewish cemetery, Nyirbator. We found a ‘manager’ to open the gate but they did not have a map, or they didn’t offer one. 

I do have a cousins who live in Budapest and one in the mountains north of the city. I may be able to convince them to take photos unless HFPJC can be of assistance. I donate to them as they maintain the Demecser cemetery where some of my dad’s paternal family Is buried. 

Interested to see if we’re related. 
Stay safe,
Lisa Bernath
Re: Jacobstadt, Latvia 1958 Revision List #latvia

Ava Nackman
 

So sorry, it was a typo.  I did mean the 1858 Revision List.  Thanks, Arlene, I am going to get your book and will take a look at the Latvia SIG page.
Ava Nackman
Re: Records for Aliens Held for Special Inquiry - 305-Cert #general #usa

Marian
 

It looks to me that Abraham was held as a LPC (likely to become a public charge) based on a medical certificate issued by one of the medical examiners.

The "305" is most likely the time he was referred for a BSI hearing and recorded on the BSI list.  Times are important because an excluded immigrant will have 48 hours to appeal the mere fact of their referral, so the clock began ticking at 3:05 that day and one expects his first hearing to occur within 48 hours of that time.  His first hearing was on the 19th, the second the 21st, and the third on the 27th.  It appears he was finally admitted at 3:40 that afternoon.  One usually sees the times noted at the right of the same column, but in this case they were typed in right after the cause of exclusion (in his case, LPC).

It is possible the time he was held was used by his friends or family to overcome the exclusion, maybe by posting bond.  Unfortunately I find no indication of any correspondence with Washington, DC, on the matter.  As a result no other records of the time/event survive (to my knowledge).

Marian Smith
Re: Are these the same person? #galicia #records #names

sharonrf18@...
 

Are “Chaim” and “Hirsch” the same people? I’ve been down this road before and the only answer is you have to play the odds and the likelihood. First, I’d recommend you get the original records. So far, I’ve never found JRI-Poland translators to be wrong but handwritten records are subject to interpretation and there may be additional information that wasn’t indexed.  The births were recorded one year but the children could have been born in different years. Second, if you can determine if there was another husband to go with that particular mother it would be helpful. Did she marry twice? I realize records may not exist to answer that question. Was there a Chaim AND a Hirsch or is this a clerical error. Again, maybe no records to resolve that question. Third, how large was this town? If it was a smaller community, that’s where you play the odds. Chaim and Hirsch are common names but Sime less so. I’ve found names being recorded incorrectly, people being born after the mother’s death, and births recorded twice in the same year with different birthdates in my research!  Sometimes there is no definitive answer but I’ve ruled out other possibilities in order to make my decision. I’ve put people on my tree with explanations when I’ve come across the puzzling situations. Good luck!

Sharon Fleitman
Atlanta, Georgia 
Re: Looking for Israēl Lazare Lesiuk’s descendants from Steppan Ukraine #ukraine

cesar465y@...
 

Hi Catherine,
If Abraham Lesiuk was born in 1988, he arrived Palestine at 36 years old in 1924 and was almost 60 at Independence War in 1948. It is not impossible, but I think it is most probably that was one of his sons who died in that war.
There is a site Izkor (in hebrew) with almost all died soldiers in Israeli wars - the surname Lesiuk is not there.
Instead that, I found a man Abraham Lesiuk (and probably his family) that changed his surname to Ben-Zeev (Wolf' Son) - please see the Oficial Palestine Gazette of 23/06/1938 (original page 711, PDF page 17).
I checked also Ben-Zeev surname at Izkor' site, and found a man that fall in 1948 with this surname. His name was David, was born in Odessa to Abraham and Ruchama and arrived Israel/Palestine in 1923. You can try google translate on the page itself. He doesn't appears with his family in the Gazette, but may be he changed his name in another oppurtunity.
Hope this info helps you.

CesarYeudkin
Israel

researching:
YEUDKIN/YUDKIN, SCHEIMAN from Gomel in Belarus
DUGATKIN, SHMUKLER, KOHON, BERKUN, OSCHEVEROF/OSHEVEROV, SILBERT from Kherson Guvernia / Ukraine
Re: How to find UKRAINE records #ukraine #records

Family and DNA
 

Ilya, a very preliminary comment -- the files often have multiple years, so I'd suggest avoiding that as the first part of the name.

But more basically, why should all the files be renamed? When Alex Kravkovsky or other folks upload to Wikipedia, they name the files already, usually in a certain manner but not always. They are uploaded often to 2 spots, I don't know why, so for instance that file you are talking about can be found at both: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1831_год._Списки_лиц_умерших_от_эпидемии_холеры_по_Богуславскому_уезду.pdf
as well as at
https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Файл:1831_год._Списки_лиц_умерших_от_эпидемии_холеры_по_Богуславскому_уезду.pdf

And more importantly, where is this list of files you want supposed to be? On Wikipedia? (in which case you can do it, anybody can contribute) On JewishGen?

Somebody (Wikipedia user name Madvin usually??) is adding place info to these files in Wikipedia, & besides the main "Shtetl" page where you can see Jewish files, & the individual archive pages (start at https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Архіви then choose your archive such as DAKO), there are geographical pages (see the green box on right side of the screen on the main archive page, with the middle linking to "geo" https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Архіви/Гео). Slowly but surely places are being linked to documents, but it's *very* incomplete.

If it's on the JewishGen site, it has to be in some sort of database form that is dynamic to reflect the constant updates, all that is to be discussed with the folks there, but I wanted to reply to your mail.

regards,
Juliana Berland

On 10/3/2020 14:52, Ilya Zeldes wrote:
Gary,
 
sure, there is no way to sort all of Alex K's postings in chronological order, but if you will organize and use an established naming convention for all posts, it will facilitate the search and use of files. The keywords are "naming convention". The names of all files could be in this format:
Year>DAKO XXX-XX-XXXX>Name of the file. 
So, for example,  the file "Списки загиблих від холери по Богуславському повіту. 1831 // ДАКО. Ф. 280. Оп. 174. Спр. 1488" will be listed as
"1831 SAKO 280-174-1488 Списки загиблих від холери по Богуславському повіту."  (DAKO, GAKO, ДАКО, ГАКО - all stand for the State Archive of the Kiev Oblast -SAKO).
 
Regards, 
 

 
Ilya Zeldes
North Fort Myers, FL

--
Juliana Berland (France)

/// Russia/Ukraine: BENIN / BERLAND Czernigow; Romny, Poltava > (Paris>) Chicago AMBURG / BERKOWITZ / EPSTEIN Odessa, Kherson, Poltava > (Paris >) Buffalo NY; Chicago GELBURD / GAYLBURD / GOLDBERG / GILBERT Vinnitsya; Nemyriv; Priluki Staraya; Podolia gub. > Philadelphia; Atlantic City; Milwaukee /// Galicia/Poland/Ukraine: BADER Felsztyn (Skelivka) > Philadelphia BADIAN Komarno? FELDMA(N)N Wolanka / Boryslaw > Philadelphia FREIDENHEIM Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. GERTLER Komarno, Wolanka, Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. WEINER/WIENER ? /// Germany: ADELSDORFER  ? BÄR / BAER Buttenhausen > mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN. EPSTEI(N)N Röhrenfurth/Melsungen, Sachsenhausen, Guxhagen > Luxembourg; Amsterdam; MW US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN HAUSSMAN Heidenheim? ISAAK Fellheim? MEYER Hannover > Aurora, IN. MOSES Gotte(rs?n?)heim, Sachsenhausen, Röhrenfurth. ROSENSTEIN Stuttgart; Elberfeld? > Philadelphia, Lancaster, PA.

 
Re: ViewMate Translation Request - Russian #translation #poland

Aaron Slotnik
 

Thanks to David Price for providing the key aspects of the requested translations.  I'm still seeking the address/house number, if present, in the Warsaw birth registration below for Tanchem TYK.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:33 PM, Aaron Slotnik wrote:
Tanchem TYK birth registration - https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86693
Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Re: Additional Information on KNOP in Toronto #general

YOEL437@...
 

POLIN  TOWEN   LOWICZ   REGION  LODZ    MAINE  FAMIII   KNOPF
   סבתא  רבא   ילידת   העיירה  לוביץ     RACHEL  KNOPF
    היתחתנה   עים  סבא  רבא   מי  צד  אבי    LEIB  WOLKOWICZ  
       יש לי  גם   תעודות  לידה  של  אחים  שלה  מי ארכיון     מי  1895
     משפחת  קנופף    היתה  גדולה  ב  באירופה  .  מעוניין  שיתוף  במחקר  על  המשפחה
     באוסטרליה  יש לי  משפחה  קנופף   מי לוביץ
          DRORI  YOEL  ISRAEL
Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Ilya Zeldes
 

Gary,
 
sure, there is no way to sort all of Alex K's postings in chronological order, but if you will organize and use an established naming convention for all posts, it will facilitate the search and use of files. The keywords are "naming convention". The names of all files could be in this format:
Year>DAKO XXX-XX-XXXX>Name of the file. 
So, for example,  the file "Списки загиблих від холери по Богуславському повіту. 1831 // ДАКО. Ф. 280. Оп. 174. Спр. 1488" will be listed as
"1831 SAKO 280-174-1488 Списки загиблих від холери по Богуславському повіту."  (DAKO, GAKO, ДАКО, ГАКО - all stand for the State Archive of the Kiev Oblast -SAKO).
 
Regards, 
 

 
Ilya Zeldes
North Fort Myers, FL

--
Ilya Zeldes
North Fort Myers, FL
Re: Need help, please, dating a Warsaw and a Liverpool studio photo of my great-grandmother #poland #unitedkingdom #photographs

oodrual@...
 

Barry,

For both photos I had a look at the photographer and for the Liverpool one it is certain that it was from the late eighteenhundreds. Considering the type of clothes on the Warshaw one they date form the same period which is confirmed by the advertising I copied.

Brown, Barnes & Bell

Liverpool branch at 31a Bold Street existed from 1877 till 1890



W.M. MAJORKIEWICZ
Plac Krasinskich No. 3
Obok (near) Ogrodu (garden)
Warszawa,Poland
"Negatives are kept by the photographer and new prints can be ordered at any time...Bad weather makes no
difference in photos."

cir late 1800s

Regards,
Ron Peeters
Ulvenhout (NL)
Adoption Lwow, Poland #dna #poland #galicia

ntc52@...
 

Although my mother was brought up Roman Catholic, DNA indicates Jewish ethnicity. Neither her mother or father's surname come up in any DNA link. Any suggestions how I might explore the likelihood of her being adopted to Roman Catholic Polish parents. She was born 1925 and lived in Lwow.
I have found that Gesher Galicia hold two records 'Conversion to Judaism'  Fond 701, series 1, Volume 370 &372 however don't think that contents are accessible to enable my to explore this further. 

Noreen Thorne, England. (Szczepanski, Mrozowska)
Re: 1812 German Citizenship Papers #records #germany

Rodney Eisfelder
 

Yoav,
Chag Sameach.
The Publication I cited, correctly spelt "Amts-Blatt der Koniglichen Breslauschen Regierung" can be viewed at www.europeana.eu. The relevant issue, No. 45, dated 16-Nov-1814 can be downloaded as a pdf file from
https://www.europeana.eu/en/item/234/_nn3qwS5
Pages 17 to 63 of the pdf contain the names of 3755 Silesian Jewish citizens with their Kreis and Ort (district and place).
As it happens, my 3-greats-grandfather is not listed, but his presumed brothers are, with the Polish spelling of their surname (Kaczinsky instead of Katschinsky), living in Sohrau.
I can confirm that there are some entries for Langendorf, Kreis Tost. Wikipedia suggests that Langendorf only became part of Kreis Neisse in 1816.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia
Virtual meeting “Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org” – October 18 #jgs-iajgs #events #poland

Ben Kempner
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society Southern Nevada invites you to a Zoom meeting at 1:00 p.m. (PDT) on Sunday, October 18:  “Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org” with Robinn Magid.

To attend: email info@... and you will receive the Zoom link. In the subject line, please put “Attending October 18 meeting” and be sure to put your name in the email. See https://www.jgssn.org/meetings.html.

Session Description:

JRI-Poland has served as the preferred finding aid for the Jewish records that survive in the archives of Poland today. This vast collection of 6.2 million records from over 550 towns includes information about towns and families from Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Germany and the former territories of Galicia and Prussia. Through understanding the contents of the database and how to improve your search results to exploring preserved Holocaust-related records, this lecture will focus on the good things that can come out of a genealogical search. 

About Robinn Magid:

Robinn Magid is the Assistant Director of JRI-Poland.org.  She recently became the project manager of the JRI-Poland “NextGen Project” to redesign the JRI-Poland website, search engine and database. As the Lublin Area Projects Coordinator, she is responsible for coordinating the indexing of Jewish vital records for approximately 100 towns. Robinn has spoken at many IAJGS conferences on behalf of JRI-Poland and has served as the chair of two groundbreaking conferences: IAJGS 2018 Warsaw, Poland conference, and the IAJGS 2020 Virtual Conference on Jewish Genealogy. She is a member of the San Francisco - Bay Area JGS. 

This program is free and open to the public, but space may be limited.

Ben Kempner
Re: uman birth records #russia #ukraine

Bella Tseytlin
 

Linda,

lots of Jewish birth records in Uman are in the FamilySearch. Uman births records covered 1866 -1919 with some years missing.

Here is the link to the records.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1048739?availability=Family%20History%20Library

I’ve managed to locate two more records for my uncles, born in Uman in 1922 & 1923.
Maybe they were listed under different ‘groups’.
All records are in either in  Russian or Ukranian. 

Sadly, up to now, I didn’t find my grandmother’s date of death (1917-1918) or any other information about her.
Regards,
Bella Tseytlin
Melbourne,Australia 
Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Ellen Garshick
 

Re Tuchin and Zaslav: The Kremenets (Volin) district Concordance (an index of name/town combinations found in Kremenets-district records) includes 308 entries for Tuchin and 820 for Zaslav. This means that a person in the records is associated with those towns (e.g., as a birthplace or registration town)--they are not records from those towns. Still, you might find a connection: you can search by town and surname at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets/web-pages/database/krem_search_frm.html.
-- 
Ellen Garshick
Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets
Researching BAT, AVERBAKH from Kremenets, Shumsk, Katerburg, and Folvarki, Ukraine; GERSHIK, HURWITCH from Staryye Dorogi and Bobruisk, Belarus; ROTHKOPF (ROTKOP), GOLDBERG from Bialystok, Poland, and Baranivichi and Slonim, Belarus
Are these the same person? #galicia #records #names

jpersons@...
 

Greetings:

Attached is a screen shot from  JRI-Poland's Rzeszow 1835,41-1866 Births database.  Sime is listed as the mother of all five children, but I am trying to determine whether the fathers "Hirsch" and "Chaim" are actually the same person. The only clue I currently have is that Rachel and Henoch are both listed as children of Chaim and Sime in the Rzeszow PSA 1870 Census.

Any ideas on how I should proceed?

Thanks and take care.

Jonathan Persons
Huntsville, AL
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