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Heavy Rain Reveals Remains of Romanian Jewish Cemetery Destroyed in 1943
#romania
Jan Meisels Allen
A pit that rainfall exposed at a former Jewish cemetery in Iasi, Romania in October 2020, (©Dan Acostioaiei)
Heavy rainfall in northeastern Romania exposed an underground chamber full of headstones from a Jewish cemetery that was destroyed in 1943. The cave is in Tatarasi Park in Iasi. This is near the site where Nazi allies stole thousands of headstones from the ancient Ciurchi Street Jewish Street cemetery. Historian Adrian Cioflancc said the oldest documented graves in the cemetery date to 1467.
The pogrom in Iasi in 1941 murdered 15,000 Jews.
The cemetery, which had more than 20,000 graves, was razed on orders from Ion Antonescu, Romania’s wartime prime minister.
The Jews of Bucharest were allowed to move thousands of bodies to another cemetery, but thousands more were desecrated. The headstones removed were used as construction material on orders from Iasi’s mayor, Constantin Ifrim.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Supreme Court Says US Census Count Can End Now
#announcements
#records
#usa
Jan Meisels Allen
The U.S. Supreme Court approved a request from the Trump Administration to suspend the lower federal court’s order that extended the census count to October 31.The Court offered no explanation for the decision, which required the support of at least five justices. Justice Sonia Sotomayor issued a written dissent. She called the harms from ending the count early “avoidable and intolerable.” Further she said, “even a fraction of a percent of the Nation’s 140 million households amounts to hundreds of thousands of people left uncounted,” she wrote. “And significantly, the percentage of nonresponses is likely much higher among marginalized populations and in hard-to-count areas, such as rural and tribal lands.”
The ruling was a result from the Justice Department’s emergency request made last week. Previously, 9th Circuit Federal Appellate Court Judge Lucy Koh, said the count was to continue through October 31. The extension was made due to COVID-19 and the October 31 date had been proposed by the Administration last April which they then changed their mind in July.
As the previous Judges have ruled, the October 31 date would give the bureau a better chance of getting an accurate and complete count of the country's residents, which is used to determine how political representation and federal funding are distributed among the states over the next decade. The numbers, in turn, also determine how many Electoral College votes each state has to determine who becomes the U.S. president in 2024 and 2028. The count also determines how approximately $1.5 trillion in federal spending is directed. The proposed deadlines would have pushed field collection until the end of October, with each state's congressional districts being submitted to the president by April 30, 2021, instead of the year-end statutory deadline.
Justice Department attorneys say the Census Bureau is under pressure to meet a legal deadline of Dec. 31 for reporting to the president the first set of census results — the latest state population counts that determine each state's share of the 435 seats in the House of Representatives. Experts, both inside and outside the agency, have expressed concern over a shortened timeframe for the constitutionally mandated count, arguing that a politically motivated, shortened timeline due to the pandemic threatened the census on two ends: both the actual enumeration and the data processing that follows. A report from Commerce Department's Office of Inspector General in September found that the decision to accelerate the census schedule “was not made by the Census Bureau” and that it “increases the risks to obtaining a complete and accurate 2020 Census.”
The Census Bureau is under the Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross. If the Secretary of Commerce were to present the new state counts to the White House by Dec. 31, that would ensure that even if President Trump did not win reelection, he could attempt to carry out the unprecedented change he wants to make to who is counted when determining the reallocation of House seats.
A different legal fight before the Supreme Court which they have not said when they will hear, is the requirement of "whole number of persons in each state" and the president's limited authority over the census. President Trump wants to exclude unauthorized immigrants from being counted.
and https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/13/supreme-court-allows-census-count-to-cease-429248
To read more see: To access the previous postings about the 2020 US Census see the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts You must be registered to access the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. It is required to include your organization affiliation (genealogy organization, etc.)
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Art For Jewish Friends-Creativity From Despair
#holocaust
Lowell Nigoff
I was sent this video (see attached) by a friend (not jewish) who I have volunteered with in Israel. I found the video to be very creative and moving.
Lowell
Sorry if you get multiple emails. LN
creativity from despair
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“I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is.” Albert Camus
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Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
I've recently seen several references (on JewishGen) to Jews employed by the Czar. Considering the general distain Russians exhibited (and still exhibit) towards Jewish people, was this a reality?
-- Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY
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Re: Help with a town/village in Russia - Kaliskovkeh
#general
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
Received a very kind email from someone who explained what Kaliskovkeh was. It was actually a large estate, a folwark specifically and it was largely dismantled by the Russian Czar somewhere around 1902-ish. Searching for it right now yields zero results, because it was never a town/village/etc, just a large plantation.
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Re: Update to the Family Tree of the Jewish People
#JewishGenUpdates
Laura Gold
I want to be a town leader for Shatava but have not received any response to my previous emails. I also want to submit material for the Odessa site and have not been able to make contact with the town leader. Please assist in connecting me with someone in JewishGen who can make this happen.
Laura Gold
Vice President of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles
-----Original Message-----
From: Avraham Groll <agroll@...> To: main@... Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2020 2:16 pm Subject: [Special] [JewishGen.org] Update to the Family Tree of the Jewish People #JewishGenUpdates JewishGen is pleased to announce a significant upgrade to the Family Tree of the Jewish People (FTJP), enabling the addition of 555 new family trees, representing 454,416 individuals. In total, the Family Tree of the Jewish People now includes 7,684 trees which represent approximately 8,642,345 individuals.
While small in comparison to Family Tree collections at major commercial sites, the JewishGen Family Tree of the Jewish People provides researchers with unique access to vital Jewish family history information that is available in no other facility. We encourage everyone to utilize this valuable resource that we hope will continue to grow on an ongoing basis.
Improving the FTJP was labor intensive and required the navigation of many complex systems and processes. In this regard, please join me in expressing our gratitude to volunteers Gary Sandler (Director of Systems Administration) and Iris Folkson (FTJP, Support and IT Coordinator) for the dozens of hours they spent analyzing and upgrading our system, adding trees for the first time since in 2018, and ensuring that the FTJP can be updated on a monthly basis going forward.
To submit a Family Tree, please visit: https://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/
Shabbat Shalom & Chag Sameach.
Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org
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Re: Help with a town/village in Russia - Kaliskovkeh
#general
Leah and Eli Teicher
Hi,
The name of the village I imgine is KULACKOWCE pronounced Kulchkovtse.
It is now in Ukraine by the name KLITVICI pronounced Klitvichi.
It is south Kolomyya near the town Zablotiv now, then Zablotow.
These places were south Poland, today in Ikraine.
In that billage was born my father inlaw.
It held at most 150 Jews.
Working in farmers' works.
Leah Teicher
נשלח מסמארטפון ה-Samsung Galaxy שלי.
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Re: Researching family in Saint Petersburg, Russia
#russia
GRSN@...
I spoke with my husband and he said that we were told that my Great Grandfather Alexander Borisovich was in charge of the Hospital at Kronstadt. When he did not come home it was on the same day of the Revolution when the Czar was arrested.
My Great Grandmother Nechama (Anna) Alterman Shneyer worked for the Czar as well. She was able to return to Riga with Theodore, Fanny, Lida and William when Alexander was murdered. Thank you for your information and kindness. I will continue my research. I did add some info about the Revolution and death of my Great Grandfather as we know it. Gail Nussbaum
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Re: Kremenets region - Village of Kolosova
#ukraine
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
Alexander,
I was wrong in my original premise, it was not Kolosva Ukraine - it was this place: https://radzima.net/eng/miejsce/kalyskovka-347.html Some kind of village that no longer exists, but very close to Dolginovo. -- Arkady Kamenetsky
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Re: Kremenets region - Village of Kolosova
#ukraine
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
So I tracked it down to this https://radzima.net/eng/miejsce/kalyskovka-347.html . Looks like it was a village that existed near Dolginovo.
I used online image translation of his tombstone and there is no real information about him, just some torah sayings. What frustrates me more than anything is that Dolginovo or otherwise, this is roughly the same region/county of Belarus. All belonging to the Russian Empire. JewishGen has Belarussian birth records, but none for these members of the family. I have their names: Kamenetsky/Kaminecki (Yakov, Hayim, Dveira) Birth dates: 1891 Location: Vileyka Region Nothing comes up. At all. Is it possible that they simply were not registered and that is why the Belarus database contains nothing? -- Arkady Kamenetsky
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Re: Help with a town/village in Russia - Kaliskovkeh
#general
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
Marcy, It is this thing: https://radzima.net/eng/miejsce/kalyskovka-347.html
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Dieveniskes (Divenishok), Lihuania, Photo for Identification
#photographs
#lithuania
Adam Cherson
This is one of a series of high-definition photographs obtained from town residents/for identification. Year: about 1928
Comments: front row from viewer’s left: unknown-A/unknown-B/Tsvi Hersh ROGOL (confirmed)/unknown-D/Basyeh RUDNIK (?); middle row from viewer’s left: unknown-E/Yakov BENYAKONSKI (confirmed)/Breyneh RUDNIK (confirmed)/Sholem ROSENBLUM (?); standing from viewer’s left: Avraham KARCHMER (confirmed)/Shlomo LEVINE (?)/ unknown-H/unknown-I/unknown-J/Bilkhe CHERSON (confirmed)); NB: Unknown A and Unknown I are believed to be siblings. Adam Cherson MORRISON, MULLER, OZER, PALLETZ, PALMANTER, PENN, PRENSKY, RABINOWITZ, RAMSAY, RAPHAEL, RAYBIN, RECKON, REINES, RIVESMAN, ROBBINS, RODER, ROSEN, ROSENBERG. ROSS, ROTHBERG, RUBENSTEIN, RUBIN, RUDBERG, RUDNITSKY, RUTBERG, SAGAN, SAGANSKI, SCHMIDT, SCHNITZER, SCHWED, SECONDHOUSE, SHOHAM, SHULMAN, SILVERMAN, SIMKO, SINDEROVSKY, SMITH, SOLKOFF, SOLOMON, SPIRT, STAMLER, STAUFFER, STREISAND, STROMBERG, TELENT, TILZER, TOW, VINSON, VURGAIT, WADLER, WAGNER, WEINSTOCK, WEITZMAN, WHITE, WHITMORE, WILLIAMS, WOLF, ZEIDMAN– California/Florida/ Massachusetts/ New Jersey/New York/Pennsylvania/Texas/Australia/England/Ireland/Israel/Spain/Venezuela/Vilna/Svir/Lida/Voronova/Konvalishki
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Re: Kremenets region - Village of Kolosova
#ukraine
Sherri Bobish
Arkady, You can post a request to the discussion list asking for someone who can read Hebrew to translate the stone for you. I tried to find Yakov Kamenetsky's passenger manifest, but could not, even using soundex search on both the first and surname. I tried using Jacob instead of Yaakov. He supposedly arrived in Seattle in 1937, according to: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/kamenetsky-yaakov I cannot find a manifest for his wife, Etta HELLER. Quite a mystery! Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Help with a town/village in Russia - Kaliskovkeh
#general
koshka5@...
Dear Arkady,
My maternal great-grandparents came from a shtetl in Vitebsk, Belarus called Kolyshki. Sometimes it is called Kalisk. Marcy Kalvelage
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"Restoring a Pre-Holocaust Torah, and a Family" in DOROT
#announcements
#hungary
sjgwed@...
Sometimes, writers receive unexpected payoffs when their words spur readers into action. My article describes what happened when a cousin I never knew read my memoir, BECAUSE OF EVA: A Jewish Genealogical Journey. It's in the Fall 2020 issue of DOROT, Journal of the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York.
LINK - Susan J. Gordon sjgwed@... ZBARAZ, SKALAT, BUDAPEST, LVOV Bialazurker, Lempert, Schoenhaut
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Creating a Belarus Jewish Genealogy PowerPoint Presentation
#belarus
Michelle Sandler
I have been asked to give a presentation on doing Jewish Genealogy in
Belarus. Has anyone got any ideas besides Belarus Research Division, FamilySearch and my handout from Yuri Dorn and a handout from the Center for Jewish History. Anyone created a PowerPoint presentation or an outline I can look at. Besides the Avotaynu Guide to Jewish Genealogy are there any books specific to Belarus? I have a 250 book Jewish Genealogy Library for the OCJGS organized on shelves in my garage. I use the Library of Congress Classification. Michelle Sandler MLS Westminster, California President Vice President of Programming Publicity LIbrarian OCJGS
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Re: Kremenets region - Village of Kolosova
#ukraine
Alexander Sharon
Arkady,
I have provided you with two reliable sources of the village existence in the past, and yes it was located just 9 km distance from Krzemieniec. Krzemieniec is original Polish name of Ukrainian Kremenets, this is also identified in my previous reply. BTW, Kolosova is still there, and still in Kremenets region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolosova,_Kremenets_Raion Alexander Sharon JGFF
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British Library Released 18,000 Maps Available for Free
#announcements
#unitedkingdom
Jan Meisels Allen
The British Library has released an archive of nearly 18,000 maps and views –digitized—and no copyright restrictions. Access is free!
The collection is from the Topographical Collection of King George lll and held by the British Library for four centuries of visual impressions of places throughout the world, from maps and atlases to architectural drawings, cartoons and watercolors. Once the collection is totally digitized, the Library plans to make entire collection of 40,000 maps and views available.
The collection is arranged geographically, with around 40% dedicated to the British Isles, one third covering the Europe of the Grand Tour, and 10% for British areas of influence such as North America, the West Indies and India.
There are two planned image releases:
initiating new forms of discovery and research.
To read more see: https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2020/10/13/british-library-releases-18000-maps-and-views-for-free/
Thank you to Jeanette Rosenberg, JGS Great Britain for sharing this information with us.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Help with a town/village in Russia - Kaliskovkeh
#general
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
A friend helped me find this place via an old website: http://radzima.net/ru/map/kalyskovka-347.html
There is the link, but I am not sure what to make of it - or what to get out of it. Still though, the place existed at one point that much is clear. -- Arkady Kamenetsky
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Re: searching for information on two holocaust survivors who lost of most their families during war
#holocaust
Lewis, Megan
The USHMM Registry of Holocaust Survivors is not available online for privacy reasons. Please email resource-center@... to request a search for a name or for the names of survivors from particular places.
Megan Lewis, reference librarian United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
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