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Re: Skuodas picture
#lithuania
#photographs
binyaminkerman@...
The second word from right is clearly the year 1930. The rest of the Yiddish is harder to decipher, you may have luck posting it (separately from the rest of the picture) on viewmate and seeking a Yiddish translation.
Binyamin Kerman Baltimore MD
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ViewMate translation request--Russian
#translation
Joseph Walder
I have posted to ViewMate part of a page from an 1871 Jewish male census (army recruit list) for Boguslav, Ukraine, for some of my MURAKHOVSKY ancestors. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
I would appreciate as complete a translation as possible. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Joseph Walder, Portland, Oregon, USA
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ViewMate translation requests - Russian
#translation
Debbie Terman
Hello, I've posted 2 vital records in Russian for which I need translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses: Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Debbie Cohn Terman Newton MA, USA
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Re: Update to the Family Tree of the Jewish People
#JewishGenUpdates
Pieter Hoekstra
David and Lorraine, Daniel Horowitz provides a good explanation. Lorraine asked specifically about My Heritage and I quote their explanation as follows; You can export a GEDCOM file of your family tree on your family site on MyHeritage.com.
1. Log in to your family site.
2. Move your mouse cursor over ‘Family tree’ and click on ‘Manage Trees’.
3. On the page that opens, click on ‘Export to GEDCOM’ on the right side next to the name of the tree you would like to export. 4. On the next page you can choose whether to include photos to the GEDCOM file. Then click 'Begin the export'. 5. You will then receive an email with the link to download your GEDCOM file. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Once you save this gedcom file (suggestion - add the date to the file name) you can export it to wherever you wish or use your preferred genealogy software to open and make changes. -- Pieter Hoekstra <sold@...>
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
It seems inprobable, but then a real Jew, Baron Ginsburg, built the
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whole transSiberian railroad, so why not a bathtub? (By the way, Ginsburg did not convert, and did speak to the Tsar.) Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 4:52 AM, segslusky via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Yes, my son in law’s family (GERSHKOVITZ Kerch, Crimea) has a story that their ancestor designed a bathtub for the czar’s railroad car that reduced water sloshing out. But this sounds so unlikely Susan Slusky, Highland Park, NJ GRABER, HUF, MYSZKET, BARK Lublin Province VOROBEY, PODMAZO Minsk Province and near Kovno HERSCHER, KRAMER Galicia/Russian border
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
This is a good example of what often happened when a soldier was
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honorably discharged. But I am sure the tsar did not personally perform what was a common administrative process. (Did a tsar personally hire an individual to run the post office in a village in Lithuania?) My uncle was wounded on the Western Front just before the Armistice, and I think he held Woodrow Wilson personally responsible. If you asked him if Wilson sent him to a useless war in France, he would have agreed. Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 5:44 AM, mur33706 via groups.jewishgen.org wrote: My maternal grandfather was employed by Czar Nickolas as a beaurocrat
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
Every discharged soldier received discharge papers that specified what
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he did in the army. That would be his certificate. Too bad he didn't keep it. Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 6:03 AM, Laurence Posner wrote: My wife’s grandfather from Latvia told the family that he had been a
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
Depends when they served. By the 1870s it was possible to provide
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services to nobility without conversion, although they may have been invited to convert. They needed the courage to say no, then they were hired anyway... Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 7:14 AM, luc.radu via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I take that by "employed by the Czar" you mean DIRECTLY employed.
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
There are several books on Jews' services to tsars. By the way, Stalin
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also had a Jewish dentist Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 7:23 AM, David Barrett wrote: Interesting
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
Living outside the Pale is post facto. How they got there is the
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interesting question. They needed the wealth first. Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 11:14 AM, btkerman via groups.jewishgen.org wrote: The talltale in my family is that an ancestor tutored the Czar's
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
There are two separate issues here: 1. Treatment of Jews in the Army
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from Alexander II on (I am not talking about the period from Nicholas I until Alexander II. Traditionally all conscripts--that is to say, ALL eligible untitled men in Russia/USSR-- were and are treated badly. Privates in the US Army were also forced to polish boots and perhaps some complained about it later to their children. (By the way, look at all the photos of proud young Jewish boys in uniform in the Jewishgen submitted photos) In fact my great grandfather (a different one) was a harness-maker in the Army, a craft which put him in what passed for middle-class life in the 19th Century. Jews benefited from army service, since those that completed service and honorably discharged were allowed to keep their weapons and could live where they were discharged, often with minor service appts in their villages, such as postmaster. These armed Jews defended shtetles from pogromists, and were in the first yishuv, defending the pioneers from Arab marauders. 2. Jews who provided personal services to the nobility of course could have direct contact. Nicholas II's wife Aleksandria the Tsarina purchased her jewels from a Jewish jeweler. Providing service to the upper classes has always provided upward mobility, here in the USA, and in Tsarist Russia. Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 11:05 AM, Michele Lock wrote:
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As part of researching the ancestries of men in a large J2a Cohanim DNA project, I'm seeking leads to find a torah (scroll or book) that was printed in 1600s Frankfurt by the Shor/Schorr family who were printers there during that time...the lineage migrated to Brody, Galicia by the 1700s and then went on to Zlatapol & Kiev (famous "sugar" Brodskys). This Torah, which had the names of centuries of Brodsky-Shor first born sons handwritten into it, was in the possession of Leib Brodsky (b.Uman, d. Moscow) and given to his New York cousin Joseph Brodsky ca 1930s to protect it from destruction during WWII. Now there is no trace of it...so I'm posting here on the remote chance that any of the above rings a bell for anyone. (I've contacted YIVO etc. but I live far from NY---Pacific Beach CA--- and cannot search places like that in person). If so, please contact me: dnadeb@... (BTW, if you have a male Brodsky or Shor Cohanim lineage, I'd love to hear from you as well....indeed, if you have done any y-dna testing and know you are of cohanim descent and in haplogroup J2a....you may also find contacting me worth your while!)
Deb Katz
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Hungarian Jewish Women in BREMEN & OBERNHEIDE 1944-5
#hungary
#holocaust
#poland
shaul berger
I would like to connect with survivors (and their children) of a group of 500 Hungarian/Slovak jewish women (and 300 jewish women from Lodz). My mother Manci Rachel Aranka Berger (nee Hutter) was part of this group. She arrived with her family to Auschwitz in early June 1944 from Hungary. She and her family were sent by train from Salgotarjan but originally her family lived in Slovakia, south of Rimavska Sobota) . All my family was murdered on arrival and my mother was the only one to survive. The women of this group (most of them 15-30 years old) were sent in late July from Auschwitz to Obernheide (near Bremen) as slave laborers. They did various manual labor tasks such as cleaning up rubble from Bremen streets after Allied air bombings. In early April 1945 they were moved to the Bergen Belsen concentration camp where they were liberated on April 15. Any help will be appreciated. You are welcome to contact me directly by email. Shaul Berger
California
BRUMER, RETTIG, WATTENBERG (Zolkiew, Rawa Russka),
HUTTER, KIFLIG, HERZIG, WATTENBERG (Rimavska Sobota, Jaroslaw, Przemysl, Dobromil),
BERGER & SPITZER (Szecseny, Shirkovce, Prague)
POSNER, LICHTSZAJN (Warsaw), EHRENREICH (Warsaw/Miechow), SCHELL & RIEGER (Gorlice),
NEUMANN, FADENHECHT & NACHT (Buczacz)
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
binyaminkerman@...
The talltale in my family is that an ancestor tutored the Czar's daughter. In truth it was probably a local gentile nobleman and that's most likely the case in other stories of Jewish interaction with the Czar. Of course stories where the Jew was employed for something of low social standing are easier to believe.
Some hints as to whether there is any truth behind the story can be found if the family lived in an area that was otherwise exclusive to gentiles or if they seem to have been of higher class and wealth than other Jews. But some stories are totally made up. Binyamin Kerman Baltimore MD
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Michele Lock
My great grandfather Orel Leybman made boots for the Czar's calvary officers - as a lowly paid, poorly treated army conscript (oral history of my grandfather). I have no illusions about the reality of his time in Lithuania, in contact with anything related to the Czarist government.
Michele Lock Alexandria, VA
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Abuwasta Abuwasta
I discovered yesterday that my grandfather had a sister called Ettel ROSNER in Zabno, Galicia. She married around 1890 Emanuel Kurz and had at least 5 children whose names and exact birth
dates I located in scans in the Polish Archives. Tried to find out what happened with them in the Holocaust. In the GEDENKBUCH I found one of them: Chaskel ROSNER born in Zabno on Dec. 17,1898(the dates match). He apparently kept his mother's surname. He lived in Dusseldorf and was expelled to back to Poland in 1938 with a son called Max born in Dusseldorf on July 2nd 1928. No wife is mentioned. I shall appreciate any details about his address, profession and spouse in Dusseldorf. Thanks Jacob Rosen Jerusalem
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Re: Jews employed by the Czars
#russia
Jules Levin
The story in general can be true. There is no doubt that a personal
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contact by a Jew with nobility could yield rewards. For example, the sculptor Antakolsky (he did the iconic statue of Peter the Great in the Hermitage) was in an art class in Kovno when a princess visited and saw his work. Since he would not convert, he became the first unbaptized Jew admitted to the Royal Academy in St. Petersburg, thanks to the princess's patronage. Another example is personal. My greatgrandfather had a military supply store (!) on Kronshtadt. a restricted naval base, selling authorized supplies: uniforms, accouterments including swords and daggers, etc. (I know it from his ads in the Kronshtatskij Vestnik, not from family legends.) He owned a second store in Viipuri (Vyburg). They were rich--all the children were educated by tutors. It is impossible that he had all that without noble patronage. On the other hand, where are the details? Some of the questions could be settled by Russian historians. The names and ages of all princesses in 1810 or in 1840 are a matter of public record. Perhaps also are their travel itineraries. It may be significant that all 3 cases--yours and the 2 I cited--involve Litvaks. I also know that all the Jews selling luxury goods to the Imperial Guards stationed on Tsarskoe Selo (the shops were directly opposite the Summer Palace) were Litvaks. If you narrow down the story by working the Russian end, it might be easier to find what you want in the Jewish records. Jules Levin
On 10/14/2020 7:51 AM, YaleZuss via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
One of my ancestral families has a narrative that its surname was
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What is my best approach for finding census data on my family in Belarus born between 1885-1905.
#belarus
Arkady K <arkadyka@...>
Hi everyone, Thank you so much.
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Warsaw Jewish Cemetery Okopawa Discoveries
#poland
Jan Meisels Allen
General view of part of Quarter 1 in the Okopowa St. Jewish cemetery, Warsaw. Photo: Foundation for Cultural Heritage
The Okopawa Jewish Cemetery in Warsaw was established in 1806 and is the resting place of over 200,000 persons. It is the largest cemetery in Poland. Recently, archeologists discovered previously unknown cobblestone paths, buried matzevot and artifacts dating back over a century. The project is estimated to be completed the end of 2021.
The work was commissioned by the Foundation for Cultural History. The cemetery is owned by the Warsaw Jewish Community.
To read more see: https://jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2020/10/14/poland-archaeologist-okopowa/
The report may be read at: https://jewish.pl/pl/2020/10/13/pierwsze-prace-archeologiczne-na-cmentarzu-zydowskim-w-polsce/ It is available in both Polish and English. If you use Chrome as your browser it will translate the report into English
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Jules Duga z"l
#usa
Toby Brief
It is with great sadness that we inform you of the passing of Jules Duga of Columbus, Ohio.
Jules was a valued member of the Columbus Jewish Historical Society from its earliest years. His passion for genealogy was known to many of you as was his constant support of the archives and programs of the Society. Jules and his wife Cyril were instrumental in bringing the Columbus Jewish Genealogy Society and the Historical Society together - a match that strengthens all that we do. Jules and Cyril are responsible for the 2001 Jewish cemetery project for CJHS that recorded all of the Jewish burials in Franklin County, Ohio. In 2005, they expanded that project through eastern and southeastern Ohio towns. Just a few weeks ago Jules was working on updating those files. These records have all been submitted to JOWBR.
Honored by CJHS with many awards, Jules also was a Lifetime Trustee of our Board. He is known throughout the international Jewish genealogy for his research and his commitment to bringing families together. He was responding to questions up through the beginning of this month.
If you have been working with Jules recently please contact us at history@... or through our website.
His obituary can be found here: https://www.epsteinmemorialchapel.com/obituaries/Jules-Duga/ Toby Brief
Executive Director, Columbus Jewish Historical Society Eleanore G. Yenkin Curator, The Historical Collection of CJHS
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