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Board for Certification of Genealogists Revises Standard 57
#announcements
#dna
#guidelines
Jan Meisels Allen
On October 5, 2020, the Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) revised Genealogy Standard 57 and the Genealogist’s Code of Ethics to allow private sharing of DNA match details. The changes also eliminate the need for test takers to provide written consent for use of their DNA data, although they must be informed about the pros and cons.
The changes became effective immediately and will be incorporated into a future update of Genealogy Standards 2nd edition. The changes respond to concerns about the use of genetic evidence in initial and renewal applications for credentialing.
Additional changes include approved answers to a series of frequently asked questions (FAQs) about Standard 57, two other DNA-related standards and other issues involving the use of DNA test results in genealogical work. See: https://bcgcertification.org/learning/dna-resources/dna-frequently-asked-questions-faq/
Standard 57 (Revised). Respect for privacy rights. When publishing DNA test results, genealogists respect the privacy of living people. Genealogists refrain from publishing information derived from DNA test results that may cause harm. Genealogists publish personally identifying information about living test takers only with their informed consent. Assembled research results acknowledge living test-takers’ consents for publishing their data shown therein. [See the Genealogy Standards glossary for definition of DNA test results.]
To access the revised Genealogist’s Code of Ethics go to: https://bcgcertification.org/ethics-standards/code
Thank you to Pat Richley Erickson, also known as DearMyrtle, for informing about the changes. Her blog post may be accessed at: https://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2020/10/bcg-revises-genealogy-standard-57-to.html
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Finding My Grandfather's Siblings From Minsk
#belarus
My grandfather left Minsk in 1913 for the United States, and had six siblings whose names are unknown. I had someone do research in the archives in Minsk. While they were very successful in tracing my family back to the 1740s, they were unable to find the names of the unnamed siblings.
-- Carl Kaplan KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania HOFFERT, BIENSTOCK< BIENENSTOCK Kolbuszowa, Galicia STEINBERG, KLINGER, WEISSBERG, APPELBERG Bukaczowce, Galicia
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Victoria Barkoff
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Re: Reclaim The Records launches its biggest FOIA request ever, for BILLIONS of digital images and associated text metadata, from the United States National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
#records
ewkent@...
Dear Brooke Schreier Ganz (and Reclaim the Records):
I sympathize with your frustration and your goal but (as someone who is doing transcription work and related things as a volunteer at the NARA's National Archives Catalog interface (at catalog.archives.gov; as "EthanFromBellmore" and as Ethan W. Kent) it seems to me that 1) it has probably taken much time and effort to scan the huge number of Images already available online via that Catalog, 2) it will take much more time to scan everything (even everything not still "classified"), and 3) I don't know how much scanning they can/will do while COVID-19 is still affecting this country (the United States). (I gather that the general public is still not allowed back to Presidential Libraries and Museums -- and to National Archives research rooms -- "thanks" to the spreading coronavirus (no longer "novel"). Maybe the lawsuit could at least wait until after (G-d willing) the current epidemic in the US ends? Good Luck. Ethan W. Kent (in New York City) ewkent@...
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Avraham Groll to speak at The Jewish Geneolgy of Colorado's Annual Seminar
#announcements
Ellen Beller
Jewish Geneolgy of Colorado's Annual Seminar
Featuring Avraham GrollSunday October 25th and Sunday November 1st at 10 AM to Noon mountain time (yes, 2 Sunday's in a row) Non Members are $10 and out of state membership is $15 (members are free) Everyone must register. Registration ends Friday October 23rd. To register and more information please go to JGSCO.org and click on Programs & Events The program will talk about exciting changes and movements happening at JewishGen.org! Avraham will be unveiling brand new features, and sharing some of the incredibly valuable content, information, and collections that have recently been added to the website. This seminar will include an overview of how to navigate core JewishGen Databases & Features, along with step by step information and helpful research hints designed to maximize the benefit of JewishGen. We will also be learning about Jewish Life in Poland Part one, 10th to 15th Century and part two, 16th to 18th Century and Jewish Migration Patterns, How did Jews Get to Europe, Spain, and Germany? Any questions please don't hesitate to reply. Ellen Beller
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Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Ukraine
#ukraine
Jay Feierman
Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Ukraine #ukraine By earl zeitlin My 2nd cousin's husband lives in Uzhhorod, Ukraine. He is an archivist and he also takes people to visit homesites in Ukraine and Hungary. Very nice and very reliable. I recommend him highly. I'll cc this to him. His name is Bela Huber. His email is huberbelay@... JAY R. FEIERMAN
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Re: Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Belarus
#belarus
Tamra Hollander
How much do they charge? And what is there number or website?
Tamra Hollander
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Romanian Digital Photo Archive Art Shows 20th Century Everyday Life
#announcements
#romania
#photographs
Jan Meisels Allen
The Photographic Image Between Past and Future brings to the public knowledge about the photographic archives in Romania. This was assembled by Mihai Oroveanu, art historian former director of the National Museum of Contemporary art of Romania.
The tens of thousands of photographs capture historical moments such as mass demonstrations in the 30s, Stalinist propaganda of the 1940s and 50s, and the destruction caused by the major 1977 earthquake in Bucharest.
Led by Salonul de proiecte, the project will continue until the end of next year with three exhibitions in addition to the digital archive. The first of these shows opened in Bucharest last week, and focuses on the capital city’s architecture and public space. The next two exhibits will center on gender, and anonymous and vernacular photography. Each show will also include artworks inspired by the photo archive made by contemporary artists.
To see the archive go to: https://photopastfuture.ro/ It is in both English and Romanian. Click on the three line bar on the upper right to go to about, news, images, events and contact information.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Just a possibility, but the missing records may have to do with the 1906 Naturalization Act that went into effect September 27, 1906. I noticed the case just before Abraham's was dated September 24, 1906.
The new law brought new rules, forms, and fees, and across the country many immigrants rushed to naturalize under the old rules before the new law went into effect. Under the old rules, a petition could be filed and heard by the court the same day. The 24th was a Monday, so there were still two full days for any remaining petitions to be heard under the old law. But maybe the court did not hear all petitions filed before the time ran out? If so, I don't think the petition would be any good after Sept 26th. I just read the naturalization regulations and law of 1906 and it goes on at length to explain that declarations filed prior to Sept. 27, 1906, were still good and would never expire. But it says nothing about petitions except to say all petitions decided by the court after the 26th had to follow the new rules. It could be that all the missing petitions were heard and granted prior to the new law taking effect and that the new law had nothing to do with it. But, given the timing, it is also possible those petitions did not get heard/decided by the deadline and became moot. They should have remained on file but the clerk may have decided to remove them as they had no legal value. Again, just speculating. That court's records on FamilySearch only date to late September 1906. It is possible Abraham filed a new petition in that or another court at a later date. Marian Smith
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Possible Spam RE: making Donations to a Group in Lithuania (JGFF)
#general
Maria Krane
Hi Genners,
Has anyone else received an email (possible spam) through the Jewishgen Family Finder requesting donations for a project in Lithuania? Maria Krane Florida Researching KREIN/KRONE, SHULDINER, KATZ, REMER, RAKHMAN, KAMINSKY and KERBEL all from Lithuania.
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German Census 1933
#germany
Ruth
Does anyone know if the 1933 German census is available, preferably online? I am looking for a Dr. Selig in Berlin.
Ruth Bloomfield London
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Re: Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Belarus
#belarus
alan moskowitz
Carl - was the cost, if any, reasonable?
Alan Moskowitz
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Chaim and Devora Koch-Kressel family
#poland
Milton Koch
I am searching for any descendants of this couple, married in 1903 in Zabolotow. They may have also had family in Stanislow.
Devora was born in Potok Zloty to Isak and Lea Koch. My Koch family was from Potok Zloty as well. I do not have any information regarding Devora and her family, though. Thanks. Milton Koch Bethesda, MD USA KOCH-POTOK ZLOTY (ZOLOTYY POTIK)
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Re: Shemini Atzeret custom
#galicia
yitschok@...
Richard gave a well explained response for the general tradition as suggested in Halacha. However, some places -especially Chassidim- had different customs regarding sitting in the Sukkah on Shemini Atzeret, where many did not follow the tradition of sitting in the Sukkah, as to not desecrate the Yom Tov of Shemini Atzeret by showing that maybe it's still Succot, defining the day as not so holy by not actually being Yom Tov. Unfortunately, I do not know the tradition of Bolechow. But it they were Chassidim, there is a great possibility that they didn't sit in the Sukkah.
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Re: PLAMOVATH family
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Hello Angela, hello everybody,
I would suggest you to explore a bit JewishGen databases, if you did not do it yet. Take a look below what I found in an important database of JewishGen, which is usually not looked at... It tells that you are in that system and entered the name you are researching as PALANVER, it is a different name from what you were asking us. But, there is another person who is researching PLANOVER... and you can contact that person, if it is not part of your family. I also tell you that such a surname PLANOVER does not sound usual for Jews in 19 century. Can you please let us know if you found that surname in any documents? Ship Manifests, etc. Maybe you have the surname on some post cards, etc. All the best in your research, Yefim Kogan Bessarabia Research group Leader and Coordinator JewishGen Family Finder Searching for Surname (DM soundex) : PLANOVER Run on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 07:42:08 -0600
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JRI-Poland has offline KAUFER records for various towns in the area of Rzeszow.
For more information, write to: [townname]@jri-poland.org
Stanley Diamond, M.S.M. (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
Bruce Drake
I cannot introduce this excerpt from the Yizkor book of Mikulince (Mikulintsy) Ukraine any better than to steal its first paragraph: This is a dramatic story which begins in the shadow of the Nazis. A friendship between a Pole and a Jew. After the war, the two of them met in America. The Pole died and willed his property to the Jew. Now, the Jew is turning over the inheritance to the deceased's brother in Poland.” Titled “Righteous Gentiles,” it is the story of Mendel Helicher who served as an officer in the 54th battalion of the Polish Army until the Germans vanquished his unit of 125 men, only six of whom survived the war. His savior was was the last commandant of the unit, Zigmund Brishevski, who was the only person who knew Helicher was a Jew. Brishevski died in Jersey City in 1965, and in his house, was one last testament to “my friend Martin Helicher.” Bruce Drake Silver Spring MD Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Kovel, Wojnilow
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Viewmate Translation Request: Yiddish
#translation
Rusty Wilson
I've posted an image on Viewmate of some handwritten text from the back of a photograph. The photograph shows two small young children and was taken in Uman around 1915. I'd very much appreciate a translation. The link is: https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=4557 Thank you very much. MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately
-- Rusty Wilson
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Viewmate Translation Request: Yiddish
#translation
Rusty Wilson
I've posted an image on Viewmate of a handwritten note on the back of a photograph. The handwriting is in Yiddish and I'd very much appreciate a translation. I'm told that the handwriting is atrocious, but I'm hopeful that someone can puzzle it out. The link is: https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=1587 Please respond within the Viewmate site. Thank you very much. Rusty Wilson Rusty Wilson
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Re: Tracing someone in Lithuania
#lithuania
#records
Russ Maurer
I have two comments to add to Peggy's excellent advice.
1. Records that were not filmed when the indexing was done years ago may well have been filmed since that time. It is worth checking. One of the "not filmed" examples is, in fact, now online (Motel GLAZ, film 004221370 image 804). 2. You can use the record number (e.g. M16 for Motel GLAZ) to locate the record without any knowledge of Russian. Male and female records were numbered separately. M16 means the 16th male birth for that year. The record numbers can be found in the first two columns on the page - always females in column 1, males in column 2. See snip of Motel's record below. Russ Maurer Records Acquisition & Translation Coordinator, LitvakSIG
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