Re: Shemini Atzeret custom #galicia


There are multiple customs regarding sukkah on Shemini Atzeret.  Some make kiddush in the sukkah, but eat indoors; others eat in the sukkah at night but not by day, or "go inside" after daytime kiddush.  This makes some sense if you consider that the "geshem" prayer for rain is on Shemini Atzeret morning, so why would you sit in a sukkah when you've just prayed for rain!

Generally one should follow one's ancestral custom.  I suppose the OP would like to know what the ancestral custom of that town was.  If the town or local area had a notable Rabbinic leader, then that could help find the answer.

If one doesn't have a family custom, then they would do as per their own Rabbi.

Charles Joseph


Sarina Roffe

I am seeking Jerualemsky relatives in Iisrael
Many f them are now Jerome here in the US

Sarina Roffe

New Korolowka house mapping project #galicia

Max Heffler

Racheli Kreisberg has been developing an amazing house number mapping project for 15 years. Towns she has worked one include Skala Podoskaya:


& Nadworna. We are embarking on a Korolowka (Oliyevo-Koralivka, Ukraine - 13 miles from Skala-Podilska, Ukraine; 12 miles from Melnytsya-Podilska, Ukraine - a number of families moved back and forth - as noted in the index) house mapping project since we have the cadastral and land-owner records and a school student index. We are requesting one or two volunteers for this.


On the cadastral map is a listing of 130 plots with surnames filled in for approximately 100 of them. This simple indexing would just create a simple spreadsheet with those house numbers and those surnamed. We have a template and it would likely take about 10 minutes.


The next step would be to attempt to connect the student index, which contains student and their parents and a sequence number to a house number from the first index above and adding that house number column and filling it in, where possible.



Max Heffler

Houston, TX


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Reclaim The Records launches its biggest FOIA request ever, for BILLIONS of digital images and associated text metadata, from the United States National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) #records


A minor correction: we formally submitted our FOIA request to NARA on Wednesday (October 14th), not Monday.
See, we really did wait. ;-)
- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California

Re: Reclaim The Records launches its biggest FOIA request ever, for BILLIONS of digital images and associated text metadata, from the United States National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) #records


Ethan W. Kent commented:
"it seems to me that 1) it has probably taken much time and effort to scan the huge number of Images already available online via that Catalog"
Yes, it did. And it was clearly known to all of the "partner organizations" (i.e.,,, FamilySearch, etc.) right from the outset that all their work to digitize and transcribe these microfilm or paper records would be returned to the American public when their "embargo period" of exclusivity ran out. In most cases, those embargo periods have been over for a decade, and in some cases, those embargo periods have been over for two decades!
(If we were really playing hardball, we probably could choose to challenge the legality of a government archive making any kind of exclusivity deal on access to public materials, or the very idea of an embargo period at all! But for the purposes of this FOIA request, we are not touching that issue, at the moment.)
The records, both the images and the associated text metadata, belong to the public, full stop. We want them back -- and we want to put them all online for free. Honestly, NARA should really have been the ones to do that part, but with very limited exceptions they just didn't release the material. So now we're going to hold their feet to the fire and make it happen.
"2) it will take much more time to scan everything (even everything not still "classified"),"
Ah, but we're not asking NARA to scan brand new things! We're only asking them in this FOIA request for copies of billions of records that have already been scanned and transcribed directly under their public-private partnership program, records that have been sitting on a shelf waiting to be freely released to the public for years. In practice, in all these years, most of these could only be seen or used on or their subsidiary companies, if you had a subscription, or multiple subscriptions. That's unacceptable. Government agencies should not be enabling private monopolies on public data.
"Maybe the lawsuit could at least wait until after (G-d willing) the current epidemic in the US ends?"
It's not a lawsuit yet, still just a request. We're all waiting to find out how NARA wants to handle the request, follow the law or break the law. We're hopeful they're going to comply.
That being said, if we do have to sue them, we will not wait out the end of the pandemic, and we will probably not even wait out the end of the year. Two decades of locked-up and monetized public files is quite long enough to wait.
Also, FYI, we at Reclaim The Records did hold off on filing any new Freedom of Information lawsuits against government agencies over the past 7-8 months -- which is, for us, quite a long time! But we held off making this particular FOIA request to NARA for quite a while, because the people at NARA who process FOIA requests from the public were simply not back in the building yet. (Legally speaking, government agencies were not actually allowed to stop processing FOIA requests because of the pandemic, though in practice a whole lot of them did.)
But NARA is right now moving to "Phase Two" of their re-opening procedures, which explicitly includes re-opening their FOIA division. And so we finally sent this long-awaited FOIA request on Monday, to get to the head of the line.
We want our records back.
- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California

Re: Seeking Birth, Death and Marriage Records for Dynow #austria-czech #poland #galicia

Stanley Diamond

While the vital  records of Dynow did not survive, I am pleased to advise that
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland  has fully extracted the 
Dynow Books of Residents.

There are a number of entries for the WEINIG and KASSER/KOSSER and related

There are also 900 different family names in the Dynow Books of Residents project
as well as 183 towns other than Dynow noted as Place of Birth.

Researchers making a qualifying contribution in support of the extraction of the
Dynow Books of Residents are eligible to receive all entries for their families. 

To inquire about this project, please write to dynow@...

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.

Seeking Birth, Death and Marriage Records for Dynow #austria-czech #poland #galicia
From: Ed Vogel
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:58:18 EDT
  • My mother-in-law, Hella Wexler nee Wenig, was born in Dynow Poland on Sep 28, 1931.  
  • Her parents were Joseph Weinig (Jun 28, 1891) and Miriam Kasser (Nov 23, 1900).  
  • Hella had 3 half brothers, as both Joseph and Miriam had been married previously.  
  • Joseph's sons were Mundek (1920) and Schmulik.  
  • Miriam's son was known as Larry, but I don't know the name he went by in Europe.  
  • Miriam's story is rather unusual, as she actually was divorced, which is very unusual for that time.  
  • Neither Mundek or Schmulik survived the Holocaust.  
  • Joseph's parents were Ben Weinig and Chaia.  
I would like to find as much as possible about Joseph and Miriam's siblings and ancestors.  


Ed Vogel

 My mother-in-law, Hella Wexler nee Wenig, was born in Dynow Poland on Sep 28, 1931.  
Her parents were Joseph Weinig(Jun 28, 1891) and Miriam Kasser(Nov 23, 1900).  
Hella had 3 half brothers, as both Joseph and Miriam had been married previously.  
Joseph's sons were Mundek (1920) and Schmulik.  Miriam's son was known as Larry, but 
I don't know the name he went by in Europe.  
Miriam's story is rather unusual, as she actually was divorced, which is very unusual for that time.  
Neither Mundek or Schmulik survived the Holocaust. 
Joseph's parents were Ben Weinig and Chaia.  
I would like to find as much as possible about Jose

Re: Yiddish male given name 'Kos' #poland #names

Diane Jacobs

You can call Beth David cemetery and ask if they would photograph the tombstone.
The cemetery is in Elmont NY just over the Queens border, not in  Brooklyn.

Diane Jacobs

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Date: 10/6/20 8:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [] Yiddish male given name 'Kos' #poland #names

All these choices seem reasonable to me. I just checked the Polish birth record for Aron Kos, and there does not appear to be any Hebrew or Yiddish written out for his name, though his parents' names are there in Hebrew letters. I can clearly make out 'Kos' in Polish, and just those letters. The 1879 Russian Marriage record for Aron Kos does not have any Hebrew in it. I agree that viewing a photo of the New York City gravestone would answer this question. I looked on FindAGrave, BillionGraves,, and JOWBR, but no photos, though FindAGrave does confirm that he is buried as Koss Shaler at Beth David cemetery in Brooklyn. Myself, I'm leaning towards Kohos or Kosriel. 
Perhaps I should look to see if I can find other individuals in the Lublin gubernia records that have the given name 'Kos' and see if I can find their names written out in Hebrew letters in their original records.

Thanks for the responses.

Michele Lock
Alexandria, VA
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ggf ISRAEL MAJER MORGENTHAL - Buchach, Ukraine #ukraine


My paternal grandmother was Tzipe LENZ (B1887 Buchach).  She had at least two siblings - Chaya SCHWARZ (DOB unknown) and Sara Lea ROCK (born 1870). 
Their parents were Israel Majer MORGENTHAL and Freude Lenz.  I know a little about Freude Lenz's family, but virtually nothing about my ggf Israel Majer Morgenthal.
My grandmother's marriage certificate of 1904 in London (my grandmother was the only one of her immediate family to settle in the UK) has her father as deceased.  He is listed as Sara Rock's father on her marriage record on JRI Poland. These are the only mentions I have of him.
I have recently found an Izrael Majer MORGENTHAL (again, via a JRI marriage record) as being married to Sara KOFLER, their daughter Frieda Kofler (B 1897) marrying Schaje LEIBEL in 1923.
I am wondering if this is the same person as my ggf?  If my ggm died, would he have named a child from a subsequent marriage after her?
Any more information about my ggf would be gratefully received.
Sarah Silberston
Brighton, UK

Re: Finding My Grandfather's Siblings From Minsk #belarus



Checking the Yad Vashem archives/databases for surname and geographic location may provide leads/clues to your research.

Kind regards,
David Passman

PASSMAN - Novy Svierzhen & Minsk, Minsk, Belarus
SILVERMAN - Minsk, Minsk, Belarus
OBERMAN - Bilohirya (Lechowitz), Ukraine
HOFFMAN - Shepetovka, Uraine

Re: Finding My Grandfather's Siblings From Minsk #belarus


Hi Carl
I’m not able to help you with you search but my ancestors are from Minsk as well. Would you be able to share the name of the archivist who helped you go back to 1740! That’s amazing. I can’t get past my Great Grandparents sadly. Also if you could give me an idea of how much they charge. Thanks so much! Good luck with your search.
Kim Sherman
Lashinsky/Laschinsky/Leshinsky from Minsk, Belarus

Re: Finding My Grandfather's Siblings From Minsk #belarus


My grandfather's name was David Edelson.His father's name was Sruel. He was living in Minsk when he left around the age of 12 in 1910. From research I found he was born in Dukora- a shtetl outside of Minsk. I was told there were records dating the Edelson family back to early 1700's in Dukora. Original name was Idelzchik. Means son of Yehuda. Some Anglicized the name to Edelson- some to Adelson. My grandfather had a brother and 3  sisters who came to the United States. He left others in Minsk. His sister was married to someone named Kaplan. I believe her name was Chasha. I know he had a 1st cousin whose name was Sam Edelson.

Karen Rothaus Rosenthal
Edelson, Idelczik from Belarus

Re: Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Belarus #belarus

alan moskowitz

Tamra - just do a google search for The Together Plan - it comes right up
Alan Moskowitz

Re: Seeking Birth, Death and Marriage Records for Dynow #austria-czech #poland #galicia


Hi Ed,

My maternal family was from Dynow. I didn't find information on the Wenigs you are seeking, but I did come across the following:

-In the New York Dynower Society there was an F. Wenig member. I'm attaching a flyer from 1937 imploring members to send contributions back home to the needy F. Wenig circled. There are some photos of Wenig in the Dynower Society journals, but I don't have the copies with me as I moved recently, but when I go back to my old residence I will look. The journals are also in the collection in YIVO in NYC.
- In the Mt. Lebanon Cemetery there are buried a Hyman and Rose Wenig. 

Nina Talbot
Brooklyn, NY

NEGER & SPINRAD families from Dynow
DISTENFELD, CHARAK, ADLER & WILDER families from Kamionka Strumilowa

Friedlander family Prussia, Poland then US #poland


My g.grandparents were Jacob JOEL and Dora FRIEDLANDER.  Jacob arrived in NYC in 1856.  The manifest listed his last known residence as INOWROCLAW, then in Prussia, now in Poland.  Dora arrived iin 1857 on the BORUSSIA sailing from Hamburg.  I and my cousins cannot find anything on them before that.  Any help would be appreciated.
Ed Frank
Sun City Center, FL

Re: Looking for a reliable archivist to obtain family records from Ukraine #ukraine

Barry Stadd

I have used Roman Ravve <roman.ravve@...> for three different regions of Ukraine and he has been excellent.  He always gives an estimate of what it will cost and what he will research.  His report is detailed and has been extremely beneficial in my research.

Barry Stadd

Jewish Matrikel of Burghaslach (Middle Franconia): GUCKENHEIMER or GUCKENBERGER #germany


Hello everyone,

I am helping somebody to research their GUCKENHEIMER roots going backwards from the marriage of Rosa GUCKENHEIMER to Emil OPPENHEIMER  in about 1866 in Nuernberg.

It appears that Rosa was one of the many children of Louis GUCKENHEIMER, who was born in Burghaslach in 1828, but was a hop merchant in Nuernberg by 1862. 

In one of their short research reports, Heinz and Thea Ruth Skyte state that Rebecca, the widow of Selka Benedikt, adopted the surname GUCKENHEIMER for herself and her descendants. However, a list on the website suggests that the originally adopted surname was GUCKENBERGER.

I would be very grateful, if somebody could check on the CD "Judenmatrikel fuer Mittelfranken".

Many thanks,

Justin Levy
(Dubai, UAE)

Re: Possible Spam RE: making Donations to a Group in Lithuania (JGFF) #general

Nancy Seibert

Shows "apples" replacing town names on a map of Lithuania?
Did not realize, until the "apples" showed up again on a Google map of Lithuania. 

Nancy Seibert 
Rhode Island 

Bessarabia Revision List and corresponding microfilm image #bessarabia #general


I am trying to locate the image that matches the Bessarabia Revision list record attached here.  I would greatly appreciate if someone would help me find it.
Thank you,
Tammy Weingarten
NEYMAN: Kishinev, Soroki

Re: PLAMOVATH family #bessarabia


Hello Angela,
Do you have a copy of some original document with Russian spelling of PLAMOVATH?  Perhaps the name was misread .  "TH" sounds extremely unusual for Russian language.  Perhaps the last 2 letters were CH instead of TH.

Mike Vayser

US World War l Burial Cards #records #usa

Jan Meisels Allen



One of the newsletters and blogs I subscribe to is which is a UK based newsletter.  In the current issue there is an article on US World War l Burial certificates for American service personnel.


One of the Lost Cousins members took part in a project to transcribe World War l burial certificates for American service personnel. There are over 78,000 records in the database which can be searched for free at: This is available in English and French.

Each card contains the name of the individual who died, the unit they were assigned to, the nature of their death and the burial location(s) of the soldier, up to an including their final resting place.


An example of what a card looks like and the type of information displayed may be seen at:


The index created will be made available to the public for free on


The digital archive is hosted by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Record Group 92: Records of the Office of the Quartermaster General, 1774 – 1985  Series: Card Register of Burials of Deceased American Soldiers, 1917 - 1922


Thank you to Peter Calver and for informing us about this collection.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee










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