Re: List of holocaust survivors who immigrated to Israel and died in Independence War #holocaust

Dahn Cukier

If the person died while serving, he should

Dahn Cukier

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Friday, October 23, 2020, 7:04:01 PM GMT+3, dasw5 via <> wrote:

I saw an article that mentioned a list of holocaust survivors who died in Israel Independence War. Does anyone know where to access this list?

Hadassah Wilen

Flohr - Suceava, Vienna
Schachter - Iassi, Suceava
Wilensky - Mir, Lyubcha, Karolichy - Belarus
Trembitsky/Trembitski - Turetz, Mir - Belarus

Re: Story about finding oil on family land in Drohobycz #ukraine

Pieter Hoekstra


You would be best guided to contact the oil ministry in Ukraine if you want specific information.

Here is some historical background you might already know.



Pieter Hoekstra  <sold@...>

Seeking England and Australia Research Help - Michael WEINSTEIN Family #general #belarus #unitedkingdom

Aaron Slotnik

Hello Genners,

I'm not very familiar with researching in England or Australia and am reaching out for assistance trying to find some particular information about the family of a Michael (Chaim Chaikel) WEINSTEIN (abt. 1849 - 1918) of London.  He had a number of children and his descendants are fairly well documented, including by the late Ruth Silver and others.  Per his tombstone in Edmonton cemetery, his father's Hebrew name was Baruch.  However, I am trying to learn his mother's name and where he was born and/or lived prior to emigrating to London.

I have found the family in the UK Census from 1881 through 1911, as well as a number of vital records on JewishGen.  The 1891 census notes that he was from "Gronner" which the family believes to be Grodno; however, I think it is referring to Grodno gubernia and not Grodno city as I'm unable to find him in the 1858 Revision List for Grodno on JewishGen.  I hope to identify the specific town.

My understanding is that UK vital records don't have mother's names on them, is that correct?  Any other avenues to try to learn his mother's name?  I found a reference to a Probate document on Ancestry for Michael when he died in 1918 ( which may hold promise for learning other information, perhaps leading to other clues.  Is anyone familiar with the process to get a copy of that document?

Another idea that I had to learn where they were from is to research his oldest children who were born in 'Russia'.  The best candidate seems to be his oldest son Harry (Henry) Moses Weinstein (Winston) born about 1872 and died in 1955 in South Brisbane, Australia.  Might there be Australian records that would have his specific town of birth?

Michael apparently had a brother named Simon who also emigrated to and lived in London with his wife Fanny and family who I found in the 1891 and 1901 Census but it seems less is known about him and, for the same reason as for Michael, I don't see an alternative to learn his mother's name or where he was from.  Simon wasn't present in either census entry and appears to have died between 1891 and 1901.

I would be happy to hear any other alternative suggestions.  Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide!

Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

Re: JewishGen Groups: Search Engine Question #names #general

Adam Cherson

Thanks for the information. I probably wasn't clear enough in my question. What I am asking about i searches within the current and archived posts on this group discussion board. I do not believe that these posts are included in the Universal Search from the main JewishGen site. So this is a separate and apart database using a different search engine. So my question is whether there is a way to apply these search rules to the posts in this discussion board. This is an important question because it affects whether I need to include various spellings of the names in my posts or I can rely on the soundex. Thanks, Adam Cherson

Re: JewishGen Groups: Search Engine Question #names #general

Pieter Hoekstra


I have copied and pasted the explanation directly from Jewishgen as below. In this case they describe searching options for a town. The Surname search also has options for Phonetic and for DM Soundex.

Searching 'Hurwitz' in the Surname option DM Soundex will produce results for spelling variations including 'Horvits'.

Search types:

For each search, you can choose one of four different types of matching, for Surnames and Town names:

  • Is Exactly (Standard) — match on exact spelling only
  • Starts With (Wildcard) — match based upon a prefix
  • Sounds Like (D-M Soundex) — match based upon a name's sound
  • Contains (Partial Text) — match based upon text matching anywhere within a name

Is Exactly:

Selecting the Is Exactly option will search for all instances of your surname or town based upon exact spelling only.  For Surnames, this option is not very useful, since surnames were rarely spelled consistently in historical records.  For Towns, you can also opt to use the Town Synonym database, if a specific country is chosen.

Starts With:

Selecting the Starts With option will let you search for all combinations of your surname or town based upon your input prefix.  For example, selecting the Starts With option for the name "Stein" will match all names that start with the letters "Stein", such as: "Stein", "Steinberg", "Steiner", "Steinman", etc.

Sounds Like:

Selecting the Sounds Like option will let you search for all similar-sounding names, according to the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system.  For example, "Rosenstein", "Rozenstine" and "Rojzensztejn" will all be searched if you request a Sounds Like search of "Rosensteen".


Selecting the Contains option will let you search for all data records which contain that text anywhere within the surname or town field.  For example, selecting the Contains option for the name "Blatt" will match "Blatt", "Blattman", "Blattenberg", "Feinblatt", "Greenblatt", "Steinblatter", etc.

Pieter Hoekstra  <sold@...>

Story about finding oil on family land in Drohobycz #ukraine

John Lowin <hans-@...>

I have family Ordower, in Drohobycz and have a story that the first oil was found on one of our family member's land. How might I verify this information.

Thank you.

John Lowin
Researching: Radziechow, Vienna and Munich.

Hazlin, Slovakia cemetery and death records #slovakia

Marcia Heller

Please let  me know if the Jewish cemetery in Hazlin/Haszlin, Slovakia still exists and if so the condition of tombstones. Also are there any records from Hazlin available (especially death). Trying to find records of Sali FRIEDMANN GLUECK (born 1777) and her husband Eliazer/Lazar GLUECK. 
Marcia Amster Heller

Greenblatt family from New York #usa #germany


I am looking for siblings of Hilliard Greenblatt (*1899) and Adelina Blumberg (*1903), their son Herbert (1925-2005) who married Helen Gassner (1927-1999). The family lived in New York and Philadelphia.

Thanks in advance

Gidon Lev, Givatayim - Israel

Seeking Loew family from Ruchheim, Faber family from Karlsruhe, Fuerst from Muehringe (Baden-Wuerttemberg)

Translatin needed- Hungarian #translation

A Stone

Re: Looking for information on relatives who emigrated from Brest-Litovsk to Denver, Colorado in the late 1800's #names #russia #usa

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt

Alice - Can you please send me your email address. I'm interested in your Denver Hellersteins/Farbers and would like to compare trees.
Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
Director, US Research Division

List of holocaust survivors who immigrated to Israel and died in Independence War #holocaust


I saw an article that mentioned a list of holocaust survivors who died in Israel Independence War. Does anyone know where to access this list?

Hadassah Wilen

Flohr - Suceava, Vienna
Schachter - Iassi, Suceava
Wilensky - Mir, Lyubcha, Karolichy - Belarus
Trembitsky/Trembitski - Turetz, Mir - Belarus

Re: Looking for information on relatives who emigrated from Brest-Litovsk to Denver, Colorado in the late 1800's #names #russia #usa

Sarah L Meyer

Your family may have shortened their name to Heller.  When my husband and I were first married in 1968 we lived in Albuquerque, New Mexico and bought our meat by mail from Heller's kosher meat market in Denver.
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Looking for Brown Family from Connecticut #usa


Seeking Brown Family from Connecticut. They were cousins related to Celia (Cilla) Weisthal aka Celia (Cilla) Traub. The Brown's attended a Weisthal wedding in Boston on May 30. 1939.
Harvey Weisthal
Stoughton, MA

Oct. 27: Genealogy Coffee Break #announcements #events

Moriah Amit

Next Tuesday (10/27) at 3:30 pm ET, tune into the Center for Jewish History's Facebook page for the next episode of Genealogy Coffee Break. Our guest presenter, Hallel Yadin (archivist at the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research, one of the Center's in-house partners), will discuss Family History Research in YIVO's Landsmannschaftn Collection. To join the live webinar, click "Follow" on the top of the Center's Facebook page and a notification will pop up on your screen when the webinar goes live. Note: If the notification doesn't appear, you can also find the webinar on our Facebook videos page once it goes live. Catch up on the entire series here

Moriah Amit 
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Re: Tombstone #translation

Dubin, David M. MD

והנחמד looks right with a diagonal line eliminating the lower left portions and the entire last letter. 

david dubin
teaneck nj

Re: Yiddish Question #yiddish

Albert Stern

There was an episode of M*A*S*H called 38 Across that revolved around Hawkeye being unable to finish a crossword. The missing clue was a five letter Yiddish word for bedbug, which they finally - after comic machinations - found out is "vantz."
Here is a link to a MASH fan page about the episode.
It was a long time ago, but I remember it was a funny one.
Albert Stern

Help translating record from Polish to English #translation


Hello. I am hoping for help translating entry 335 for Israel Wiengarten. Fingers crossed that I have found my gg grandfather!
Any pertinent geneological information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Deborah Moscou Annex

JewishGen Groups: Search Engine Question #names #general

Adam Cherson

To Anyone Who May Know:

I am wondering whether the search engine used to search JewishGen Group posts and archives is of the type that finds closely spelled names (I believe this is called something like Daitch-Molotov). For example, if I write the name Horvits capitalized in a post, will someone who is searching for 'Hurwitz' find my post?

Adam Cherson

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks

Bruce Drake

This week’s offering is a collection of Yizkor book excerpts about practical jokes. Every society has its pranksters, so why not the shtetls of Europe? Some of these border on the side of cruel humor when it came to the victims, such as Reb Mendel in the first excerpt. But “it turns out that the city's clowns also have a Jewish heart, and when they realized that their prank agitated R' Mendel's soul, they decided to let him go him and find another victim for their practical jokes.” Not so much for poor, pious Chaya Shlia who, when fooled into thinking that she heard G-d speak to her, “returned home crushed and in agony.” Pranks on others were more in the general tradition of youthful mischief-making, like removing the wooden steps from the door of a person’s house, so that in the morning the members of the household would not be able to leave their home. 
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: finding PELZEL in Montevideo #general

Karen Lukeman

Hi Paul, 

We visited Montevideo a few years ago, and had an amazing Jewish tour with Fanny Margolis who might be able to help because she has many contacts. Part of the tour included visiting a synagogue/Jewish community. You can learn more about her at

Good luck on your journey!
Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)

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