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New records added to the Vilnius District Research Group of LitvakSIG #lithuania

Jill Anderson
 

A new file has been added to our records and it's the conclusion of our work on the 1834 revision list for Vilna Uyezd, including additional revision lists. There are now 15,974 lines in this file. All the new data is on microfilm that has been posted on Family Search, so you will be able to find the original images for the new data. 

If you are not a contributor to the Group, you will have to wait for about eighteen months to see these records - at that point they will be added to the free All Lithuania Database. If you would like to see them now and have access to all our records, which are on Excel spreadsheets, you will need to donate $100 to the Group. You will then have access to all existing and new records for a period of five years. If you contribute now, you'll be able to download, sort or browse these files from now until the end of December 2025 and you'll be helping to support our future translations. Further details are on our website here: https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/

Jill Anderson
District Coordinator
Re: Jewish Actors (Cohen) in England ca 1916 #unitedkingdom

Dave Smith
 

Thanks for this suggestion. The occupation doesn't appear against them on the UK censuses so I have been a little doubtful about the veracity of this belief. I suspect they may have used stage names or, for other reasons, have not used their Jewish name. it is high on my "To Do" list, 'though. Many thanks for the suggestion.
 Best Wishes

Dave Smith (01892 835974 / 07896 310693)
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translation from Russian needed #translation

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

The attached is in Russian, appearing on the back of a very old photo of a woman family member
I would greatly appreciate a translation
--
Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY
Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Judy Floam
 

The genetic connection is interesting – it might partially explain the Litvak/Galitizaner divide about sweet things, since Jews tended to intermarry locally.

 

Judy Floam

Baltimore, MD
Correction: Europe's Jewish Population Continues to Decline #announcements #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

My apologies for my typo. The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 not 1952.

 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 

 

 

The Institute for Jewish Policy Research says the number of Jewish people in Europe has gone done by 60 percent in the past 50 years.

The report says this is mostly due to the exodus from the former Soviet Union which collapsed in 1991.

 

Populations drooped drastically in Russia and Ukraine, but increased in Austria, Germany, Portugal, and Spain. Some 70,000 Israeli-born Jews have also moved to Europe.

 

Jews, whose continuous presence on the continent has lasted for more than 2,200 years.

 

The report looks at three major territorial divisions:

  • the EU with its 27 member states;
  • the former republics of the Soviet Union in Europe, (noting that the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are already included among the EU 27); and
  • the balance of other countries in Europe located in part in western Europe with the prominent presence of the UK, and, in part, the Balkans.

 

The operational limits of Europe adopted in this report include the conventional geographical definition of the continent from Lisbon to Vladivostok, as well as two countries sometimes classified as part of Asia.

One is Cyprus, which is included as it is a member of the European Union. The other is Turkey, which has been included because a clear majority of its Jewish population lives in the European part of the country,

namely the neighborhoods of the Istanbul metropolitan area west of the Bosporus. Similarly, the entire Russian Republic is included in the population estimates, including Jews who live in areas actually

located in Asia beyond the Ural Mountains.

 

The Institute for Jewish Policy Research is a London-based research organization, consultancy and think-tank.


To read the report go to: https://www.jpr.org.uk/documents/JPR_2020.Jews_in_Europe_at_the_turn_of_the_Millennium.pdf

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 
Re Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Joan Parker
 

I've been following this thread and wonder if this suggestion might be viable... or if I'm  being very naive. Since one cannot eliminate bad stuff added to their tree (I too had the ex-wife's family of my nephew added by  Randy Schoenberg.  It was just there one day and I have no interest in her or her family).  Her branch is not on my Ancestry or  My Heritage trees.  Can one make a gedcom of their other  tree and DL it to Geni as an upgrade to their Geni tree?  Would this eliminate all the bad stuff? Or is this just too simplistic?
 
Joan Parker
Past President/Archivist
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
1) GOLDBERG/ GOULD, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN, BERGER, GERBER/CRAWFORD, JAGODA-Lipno, Plonsk, Plock, Poland-Russia; Warsaw, Poland-Russia; Galveston, TX; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY, Portland, OR, Los Angeles/Hollywood, CA.
2)  PARKER/PINKUS, WINOGRAD, (GERSHO-BEROVNA?)., R0SEN, -Brest (Litovsk), Belarus; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY. WEISS, NEIKRUG, DEL PINO--Brooklyn, NY.  RABWIN--Hollywood, CA, Salt Lake City, UT. CLAYTON-California.
3) GELFAND, KRITZOFF, KATZ, TROCK --Berezin/Bresin, Kodima, Minsk, Belarus, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.
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Nancy Siegel
 

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Re: Slovakia civil registration records #records #slovakia

Vivian Kahn
 

JewishGen's Hungarian Research Division has a Slovak Archives Project that is undertaking digitization and transcription of all of the the Hungarian civil registration records held by Slovak Archives. Peter Absolon, our researcher, started in archives in eastern Slovakia, close to his base in Kosice and is working his way across the country as time and funds allow.  Because of privacy rules, records are only available for births, deaths, and marriages more than 100 years ago.

Sarah Feuerstein, the Hungarian Division's Vital Records Coordinator, needs qualified transcribers to help translate the records. If you can do so, please contact me off-list. We also need donations to allow this work to move forward. To donate, go to JewishGen's Generosity Page and donate to the Hungarian Division's General Fund.  

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Director of Hungarian Research
Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Jules Levin
 

Salt and pepper on sour cream? yum; salt and pepper on a banana? ugh

Jules Levin


On 10/27/2020 7:13 AM, ifolkson@... wrote:
Salt & pepper was all I needed.  My mothers family was from Ukraine.

Iris Folkson
Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Martyn Woolf
 

I have read the various comments about GENI and the Mormons. Some considerable number of years ago I was Chairman of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain, when the question arose of Mormons baptizing both Holocaust victims and other Jewish dead. I took it up very strongly with the Mormons here in the U.K. and received a positive assurance that the practice had been abandoned because of the number of complaints. I believe that we received a letter confirming this.

In any event I agree with a number of comments about it over the years, that it does not make a great deal of difference; perhaps the more deceased Jews that are baptised by the Mormons,  the better the Mormons will be.  (That should attract a bit of correspondence).

As to GENI, this is a site that does arouse my ire. It is not so much a genealogical site as a place to find "Mishpocha". If I need the name of my ex sister-in-law's cousin's chauffeur,  that is the place to go.  For serious genealogical research, it is not.  A lady asked me a year or two ago for some help on her tree. She said that she had been "doing" her tree for nearly a year and only had about 32,000 relatives.  I told her that I had been researching my family for more than twenty years and still had not found anywhere near 1,000.  The difference is that my tree is sourced. If people want to "Hoover up" what purports to be fact, from such sites, let them do so. It probably makes them very happy.

Having now established myself as a grumpy old man, there is one tip that I would pass on and which I have used for years.  I have the habit of putting surnames in upper case when I am 100% certain of my view.  It allows me to see very easily when some antecedent needs some more work.

Martyn Woolf
London
Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

I put a small tree on Geni years ago and keep getting messages about smart matches with my own My Heritage tree.  I too would like to delete it.  If there is a process to do that, please let me know.  I have not added to it and  will not.  That said, I am not sure that this person is LDS, but if he is, he is breaking their rules.  
--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com
Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

ifolkson@...
 

Salt & pepper was all I needed.  My mothers family was from Ukraine.

Iris Folkson
Europe's Jewish Population Continues to Decline #announcements #general

YaleZuss@...
 

The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, not 1951.

Yale Zussman
Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

ccelaynarose3@...
 

Well these posts explain a few things....I recently found that someone took a line back on my family tree to the 300's BCE maybe, I don't remember exactly, but it was in that time period anyway. The name eludes me but he began with an E but the town....was Asgard! LIke Thor!

I did some research and cannot locate a real ancient town of Asgard. and now I'm stuck with it, can't verify it nor can I delete any of the garbage from the verified information.

What a waste!

Thank you for presenting this information and listening to me vent!

Connie Carter
Kissimmee. Florida
Re: "Unehelichen"/Illegitimacy: applied to mother or child? #germany

info@...
 

Dear Michael,
the one who decleared the birth probably was the midwife, the mother of the child Regina was the illegitimate Karolina nee Isaak, age 24 years.
Wolfgang Fritzsche
Germany
Re: Help with dates from 1800s Russia/Poland #general

ewkent@...
 

Reply to Alan Cohen:


I think that "2699" would only be "2nd June 1899" if there was punctuation between the month, day, and year parts of the date... -- and if dates were written as in today's UK (as opposed to today's US -- where the 2nd of June of 1899 would be "June 2, 1899" or "6/2/1899" or  (perhaps -- during the 19th century) "6/2/99".

(It would also be an unusual coincidence (although not nearly impossible) for the (I assume couple) to have died 4 years apart on the asme date of the Gregorian calendar (June 2nd). )

I believe that it would be helpful if Ms. Barch (in the US State of Florida) could at least explain what else (besides the names and the numbers) was on the "piece of paper" where the names of Abram and of Mejta -- and the numbers "2696" and "2699" were found (Was this an official document (if so, from which government, and for what purpose?) ? What other information was in the document other than these 2 persons' names and the 2 numbers? Was anyone else listed on the "piece of paper? Was this a census, or passenger manifest, or some other kind of list?? (Or does/did the "piece of paper" just contain the 2 names and numbers? (If it is possible to know:) Who created the document? Are the names and numbers printed, stamped, or handwritten?) -- to have clues as to the context of the numbers, and (better; if possible) if Ms. Barch could somehow scan (and enable others to view online) the part of the "piece of paper" on which the 2 names and the 2 numbers were found.

I do hope that more information about the "piece of paper" can be shared -- because otherwise, stating what the 2 numbers signified would probably only be guesswork -- I think.

Good Luck to Ms. Barch.

Ethan W. Kent (in New York City)
ewkent@...

 
Nuszbaum and Diosi/Diosy from Oradea, Romania (a.k.a. Nagyvarad) #hungary #romania #holocaust

Steve Stein
 

My GGGM was Betti Nuszbaum Steiner. She married my GGGF Refael Steiner and lived in Szilagynagyfalu (today Nusfalau, Romania) where she raised several children, among them my GGM Roza. There are extensive records from that region on the JG Hungary Database and I have a pretty good descendant tree for her, two brothers, and a sister.

I have tentatively associated her with the Betti Nuszbaum listed as a child in the 1848 Hungarian Census found on the JG Hungary Database, based on age and location. On that census list, she has brothers who I have subsequently found changed their surname legally to Diosi or Diosy (a translation from German/Yiddish to Hungarian, apparently). At least one appears to have relocated to Budapest. The motivation for the name change appears to have been to integrate or assimilate. At least one Diosy went to medical school in Hungary in the late 1800s.

Records for those brothers and for various Diosy descendants from Nagyvarad appear in the JG Hungary Database from that time period, and assembled on Geni and FTJP. However, the descendant trail appears to grow cold - there are no other researchers listed in JGFF for Diosi in any location. I can find several Diosys from Nagyvarad/Oradea on the Yad Vashem database.

Is this surname familiar to anyone? Did the Diosy surname disappear due to the Holocaust, or perhaps the descendant of the Diosys did not remain Jewish? TIA.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ USA
Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Judith Singer
 

There is such a thing as the "Gefilte Fish Line" (referred to above) which roughly divides Galitzianers (who generally preferred their foods, such as gefilte fish, sweet) from Litvaks (who preferred their gefilte fish and other foods savory). The line corresponds also to the the boundary between the two main Yiddish dialects — the central Polish/Galician (Poylish/Galitzianer), and the more northern Lithuanian (Litvak). There are articles about this; one is at https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/09/24/351185646/the-gefilte-fish-line-a-sweet-and-salty-history-of-jewish-identity . 

Someone above also asked whether ancestors from Minsk rendered her as a Litvak or a Galitzianer. I didn't see an answer, so I'll add that, roughtly speaking, ancestors from Lithuania and most of Belarus (historically part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) were Litvaks. 

Judith Singer 

 
Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Jill Whitehead
 

All my family were Litvaks from NE Poland. When my mother made potato latkes they had nothing on them. We ate them as they came. My family would never put anything sweet on meals that were main course. Sweet things were reserved for puddings/desserts. 

This is rather like what you do with porridge. My mother as a Scot put salt on her porridge. English people put sugar on their porridge.  I do not like porridge, so never have it!

It surely depends on your taste what you do - and taste is genetically defined. I lack the gene for alcohol -  I do not enjoy its taste. But counter to that I love the taste of vinegar and also things like sprouts - which are also genetically defined. 23andme have these traits to test. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
Re: Jewish Actors (Cohen) in England ca 1916 #unitedkingdom

Diane Jacobs
 

Have you tried to access The Jewish Chronicle ?  You might referes to your family from this London paper.

Diane Jacobs



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-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Smith <daves@...>
Date: 10/26/20 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Jewish Actors (Cohen) in England ca 1916 #unitedkingdom

Hello

I am seeking any information available on Hyman Cohen (b 1866) and his
son Julius Cohen (1889-1947) who I understand were both actors. In
particular I am trying to trace their movements around England in the
period ca 1916. Any help or ideas will be most gratefully received. I
have not been able to identify them clearly in the 1901 & 1911 census
and I am not even sure when Hyman died.

Thanks You and Best Wishes
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Dave Smith (01892 835974 / 07896 310693)
daves@...
http://www.diskdoctor.co.uk/dave.html
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
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