Help Needed In New York-Abraham ROSNER (1885-1979) #usa #germany

Abuwasta Abuwasta

Dear Genners,

Just discovered that my late grandfather Chiel Jakub ROSNER(1866-1942) had a brother names Hirsch who had a son Abraham Jakub ROSNER. 

This is what we know about him :Abraham Rosner, born 16.08.1885 in Zabno, Poland
Wife: Erna Rosner, née Kupferblum, born on 01.07.1887 in Ostrowitz
Abraham Rosner: Schoolboyhood/apprenticeship in Zabno/Poland; 1907 he came to Leipzig, 1909 to Düsseldorf; 1911 he founded a furniture and linen installment business in Wallstr. 47, where they lived; on January 9th, 1935 he moved to Brooklyn, USA (emigration), where he first ran a small colonial goods shop.

I found on Ancestry their entry to the USA in 1935 where Erna is Ester and no children mentioned.  Abraham died in Israel in 1979 and the burial society has no record of his relatives. Ester may have died in New York in 1956(based on SSDI). A person related to the Kupferblums  remembers that:
 "My grandfather (Gershon Kupferblum)’s aunt Ester lived in Williamsburg/Brooklyn with her husband in the 1950s. They were orthodox Jews, and ran a “wine shop.” I believe they had a son named Paul. Maybe a daughter or daughter-in-law named Rose?"
Need to find Paul ROSNER  and  Rose. Did not see anything at the 1940 census.


Jacob Rosen



Re: Could you someone help me with translating a gravestone from Hebrew to English? #translation


A bitter eulogy we mourn, mother and 7 sons and 2 daughters, on the death of the upright husband and father Reb Yitzchak son of Reb Abraham Goldstein of blessed memory, died at the age of 47 years 10 days to month of Adar 1 5643. His good to the people of his faith will be remembered for his soul. May his soul be bound in the bonds of life in the garden of Eden, amen.

Reb is just a title like Mr and doesn't signify being a Rabbi. In leap years there are two months of Adar. The date corresponds to February 16th after sunset or the 17th 1883.

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

Re: translation from Russian needed #translation


In Russian:
Дорогой сестре Ханы
Фотограф В.С. Жуковский

Translated into English:
To Dear Sister Hana (Possible from Hana)
Photographer V.S. Zhukovsky
Writing in red impossible to reed. 
Translated by Michael Ryabinky

Latkes #general

Shirley Holton

My family are from Simnas and Snipiskes Lithuania and Szczuczyn in Lomza Poland. And we always liked Chrain (the Russian Chren) a sharp horseraddish condiment - and salt with latkes. My mother - a descendant of Simnas used to call them blintzes.
Shirley Holton
London UK

Re: Slovakia civil registration records #records #slovakia

tzipporah batami

Vivian I would like to introduce a different opinion here. The dispersion and destruction of the Holocaust I feel should make an exception to privacy laws. For many this is scholarly or research on ancestrieos which is meritorious. For some this is still a search for birth cerificates because these archives do not respond to survivors claiming those records are in basements. If you could request that the time period of the Holocaust birth and marriage certificates be included it would be appreciated. Also I am wondering if you are also including those records from towns like Michalovce which was not part of Hungary since 1918 and when one contacts Slovakia they claim it was not same country. Or they dont answer. Or provide the basement excuse. To clarify I would consider Holocaust time period to start from the rise of Nazis in power, the late 1920s. I think living survivors would prefer access over privacy. Thanks for considering my idea and entertaining a broad response. And a reply.on whether Michalovce is included. Thanks so much.

Feigie Teichman

Re: Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Jeffrey Herrmann

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:12 AM, Max Heffler wrote:
You claim “Collaborative sites, like geni, provide the best possibility of progressive correctness for this record.”  
What is your evidence for this bold assertion?  The anecdotal evidence reported by many users of these sites suggests that the posted trees become progressively more incorrect as careless users cut and paste each others errors into ever more trees.  This is the antithesis of “progressive correctness.”
Jeffrey Herrmann

Re: Jewish Actors (Cohen) in England ca 1916 #unitedkingdom

Dexter Moseley

have you tried the actors union called Equity?

Dexter Moseley

Re: translation from Russian needed #translation


Unless the right side of the photo on the second line has some text, it should read
"To dear

If, however, there is a word "от" / "om" on the 2nd line, that would indicate that it's "To dear sister from Hanna"


you were pretty close with the word, but it's "Дорогой", not "Дороготы"

Mike Vayser

Re: Re Geni Family Trees - Privacy and Baptism Concerns #general

Lisa Lepore

Hi Joan,

The intent of trees such as those at Geni, and the ones at is to create one big tree where everyone connects to everyone else.  So, even if it were possible to replace your tree with the one you want, at some point the others can just add on to it again.  The problem with these types of trees is that some people are very careful with their research and are truly interested in connecting with the distant branches of their families.  Unfortunately, there are also many who are not careful, or who do not respond when you contact them.  In some cases that have been discussed here, unfortunately there are those Mormons who persist in adding Jewish people to their religious ceremonies, even though their own church has asked them not to do this.  I had some changes made to my familysearch tree by a man who answered very vaguely when I asked him how he was related to me.  He first said his wife had done it, then he didn't remember, then he stopped communicating with me.  He still makes changes to some of the people, so I'm not really sure what's going on there, and I wondered if it was related to some of these overzealous people baptizing everyone they can document?   Since I don't follow their beliefs, I don't think deceased people can agree to anything, so it's meaningless to me.   

Once you set up a public tree at one of these "one big tree" sites, this is a problem that will continue.  The only thing to do to avoid it is to keep your tree on your own computer, or find a site where you can post your tree and keep it private, or let people look at it but not add to it.  You can do this at myheritage & at ancestry, and there are probably other places I am not familiar with. 

Lisa Lepore
Mendon, MA

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:45 PM Joan Parker <parker5850@...> wrote:
I've been following this thread and wonder if this suggestion might be viable... or if I'm  being very naive. Since one cannot eliminate bad stuff added to their tree (I too had the ex-wife's family of my nephew added by  Randy Schoenberg.  It was just there one day and I have no interest in her or her family).  Her branch is not on my Ancestry or  My Heritage trees.  Can one make a gedcom of their other  tree and DL it to Geni as an upgrade to their Geni tree?  Would this eliminate all the bad stuff? Or is this just too simplistic?
Joan Parker
Past President/Archivist
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
1) GOLDBERG/ GOULD, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN, BERGER, GERBER/CRAWFORD, JAGODA-Lipno, Plonsk, Plock, Poland-Russia; Warsaw, Poland-Russia; Galveston, TX; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY, Portland, OR, Los Angeles/Hollywood, CA.
2)  PARKER/PINKUS, WINOGRAD, (GERSHO-BEROVNA?)., R0SEN, -Brest (Litovsk), Belarus; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY. WEISS, NEIKRUG, DEL PINO--Brooklyn, NY.  RABWIN--Hollywood, CA, Salt Lake City, UT. CLAYTON-California.
3) GELFAND, KRITZOFF, KATZ, TROCK --Berezin/Bresin, Kodima, Minsk, Belarus, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

Re: translation from Russian needed #translation


Hand inscription "Dear sister from Khana" Below "Photographer V.?. S *** vsky, Nezhin"
Iryna Tulchynska. Ukraine

Re: Slovakia civil registration records #records #slovakia

Carole Bass

Vivian Kahn,

I should have asked: is Mr. Abolson digitizing all civil registration records, or just those for Jewish births, deaths, and marriages?

Thanks again.
Carole Bass
New Haven, Connecticut, USA

Re: Slovakia civil registration records #records #slovakia

Carole Bass

Vivian Kahn,

Thank you very much. The records I'm looking for are from the Kosice Region — from the town of Gelnica or thereabouts — and are more than 100 years old. Are any digitized records online?

I will gladly donate in support of this work. I've worked with Hungarian Civil Registration records from elsewhere in Hungary and can usually find my way around the records, but I don't know that that qualifies me to transcribe. I don't read Hungarian or Slovak.
Carole Bass
New Haven, Connecticut, USA

Re: Sephardic Resiliencia Festival - Virtual #sephardic

Barbara Algaze

How do we join?
Where do we register?

The writing on the flyer is too small and I do not know how to enlarge it.

Barbara Algaze

Warsaw cemetery #warsaw

Stanley Diamond

The Warsaw Okopowa Cemetery can be searched online on the JRI-Poland website
at "Search"
Information on the Foundation for Documentation of Jewish Cemeteries in Poland of
which the Warsaw Cemetery is the largest project is available on this web page:

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
Warsaw cemetery #warsaw
From: m_tobiasiewicz@...
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:17:04 EDT
Have the Jewish cemeteries in Warsaw been indexed?
I am looking for a distant cousin who died in Warsaw in 1956 in a trolley car accident.
His wife and 2 sons later moved to Tel Aviv.
Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine


Looking for help Zabokrich #ukraine

Len Weinstein

I am looking for any info on this town where many of my ancestors came from. Any help is greatly appreciated
Len Weinstein

POLIN Museum recalls the Jews imprisoned in the ghettoes across occupied Poland (and Ukraine)

Tony Hausner


The core exhibition at POLIN Museum of the History of Polish Jews has been enriched with a new installation. It presents the stories of Jewish residents of several Polish towns who at the time of the Second World War were imprisoned in the ghettoes.

Warsaw ghetto is the most widely-known, yet the Germans established six hundred sealed-off quarters for the Jewish minority, among others in Lwów, Łódź, Przemyśl, Radom, Rzeszów and Tarnów. The first ghetto was established eighty-one years ago, on 8 October 1939.

Tony Hausner
Founder, Safe Silver Spring
Past Chair, 
AAII Chapter Leaders Executive Committee
Cell: 301-641-0497


Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Sue Brundage

My maternal grandparents were from Malat: Kvas or Kwas, and Mindlin.
Litvaks! And we used both sour cream and apple sauce, though my choice was always apple sauce.

Susan Ginsburg Brundage

Searching for David ABRAMOWITZ-Boston -late 1800's-mid 1900's #usa

Yonatan Ben-Ari

My great great grandmother, Gittle ABRAMOWITZ came to the USA around
1870-1880 to New Haven, Ct. As she had remarried around her arrival we
are not sure what her second husband's name was (possibly LAZAROFF or

She had been widowed before leaving Europe (Novarodok) and came to the
states with 4 young children. The eldest (we presume his name was
David) was supposedly an older teenager left New Haven to find his
future in Boston.

As our family oral history goes (no records) David went to work in a
department store and eventually rose to management through
(supposedly) marriage into the owner's family. It is also supposed
that he changed his family name possibly to ABRAMS or something

Around 1936 his Israeli nephew, my grandfather, who emigrated from
Palestine to Hartford,Ct. tried to contact his uncle at the store and
was rebuffed by the sec'y stating that David was not well and was
recuperating in his Florida home.

I state again all of the above is oral history written in an
autobiography of a family member no longer alive. If any of the above
sounds familiar to anyone I would love to hear.


Yoni Ben-Ari (Katzoff), Jerusalem

Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Mark Halpern

My Bialystoker mother served her great latkes only with sugar. My Galitzianer father never complained.

Mark Halpern
Conshohocken, PA


On 2020-10-27 4:39 pm, Irwin Keller wrote:

My family is also from Krynki (names: Jacobs, Knishevitsky) and indeed we also take 'em with sugar!

Irwin Keller
Penngrove, CA

Could you someone help me with translating a gravestone from Hebrew to English? #translation

jonathan goldstine

Thank you!

Jonathan Goldstine